EPTOn August 23 2013 08:00 thenexusp wrote:
TF = triforce
TF = twisted fate
SS = spirit stone
SS = sight stone
SS = statikk shiv
SS = MIA
TF = triforce
TF = twisted fate
SS = spirit stone
SS = sight stone
SS = statikk shiv
SS = MIA
y = why
y = yes
[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 23
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
This guy explains it far better than I probably could. Of course, note that everything goes out the window once you start talking about things like people stealing plaintext databases, jacks an admin account (at which point they don't care about anyone else's account), phishing or just someone coming up to you with a 2x4 to beat you up for your password. But at that point I don't think anything is really going to save your password. Everything being said however, it is definitely recommended you change your password on NA if you have not already. Also, please don't use a password you already use elsewhere. If you have trouble thinking up passwords, this method is not bad (although please still use a bit of common sense when using it). If you absolutely have trouble with passwords, I have heard KeePass being mentioned before but have never used it nor can I vouch for it so take it for what you will. (Unless R1CH decides to drop in an vouch for it?) | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 23 2013 11:15 wei2coolman wrote: Really surprised no one picked up on my idea of Fmallet + triforce being the new combo. Before IBG was so good was because reliable slow, and shared sheen proc with triforce, but now that they created a separation with changes to fmallet, triforce + fmallet no longer redundant. Well the problem is that's a lot of gold spent on offensive items. FMallet has a ton of HP, but the build-up isn't great and provides no resists, which is problematic given the fact that Bork is often the go-to singular offensive item. I don't know if Triforce will outperform Bork on a 1 to 1 basis. On AD carries, that's too much gold spent on non-scaling stats. Besides, for poking with Ez Muramana/IBG is still probably better cause the aoe slow is just so strong. Then again, maybe the Triforce sheen proc buff will give it an edge. It's really too early to tell, but I suspect Triforce is still not going to be great in most cases. It might be good on Irelia/Jax and the old Trifroce users, but they're not exactly super popular atm and I highly doubt Triforce being changed will help them regain their popularity. Maybe in yolo q but not in competitive. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 11:27 Ryuu314 wrote: Well the problem is that's a lot of gold spent on offensive items. FMallet has a ton of HP, but the build-up isn't great and provides no resists, which is problematic given the fact that Bork is often the go-to singular offensive item. I don't know if Triforce will outperform Bork on a 1 to 1 basis. On AD carries, that's too much gold spent on non-scaling stats. Besides, for poking with Ez Muramana/IBG is still probably better cause the aoe slow is just so strong. Then again, maybe the Triforce sheen proc buff will give it an edge. It's really too early to tell, but I suspect Triforce is still not going to be great in most cases. It might be good on Irelia/Jax and the old Trifroce users, but they're not exactly super popular atm and I highly doubt Triforce being changed will help them regain their popularity. Maybe in yolo q but not in competitive. Mostly talking about Ez. The most popular startup for ez seems to be dblade + tears, into manamune, into IBG DL's ez build is BT->Manamune->IBG I was thinking about something like triforce first into fmallet. The increased damage from sheen procs could handle part of the lull, not to mention since it builds out of pick axe now the build up isn't quite nearly as bad you make it out to be. It wouldn't be so different than the awkward glacial shroud build up for IBG. Or Triforce + LW into Fmallet. I just definitely think the go-to 6 item ez build includes fmallet+triforce. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On August 23 2013 10:44 MoonBear wrote: In a vacuum, the only thing that matters for password strength is the entropy. If someone is purely trying to crack your password through brute force, then length is all that matters. This guy explains it far better than I probably could. Of course, note that everything goes out the window once you start talking about things like people stealing plaintext databases, jacks an admin account (at which point they don't care about anyone else's account), phishing or just someone coming up to you with a 2x4 to beat you up for your password. But at that point I don't think anything is really going to save your password. Everything being said however, it is definitely recommended you change your password on NA if you have not already. Also, please don't use a password you already use elsewhere. If you have trouble thinking up passwords, this method is not bad (although please still use a bit of common sense when using it). If you absolutely have trouble with passwords, I have heard KeePass being mentioned before but have never used it nor can I vouch for it so take it for what you will. (Unless R1CH decides to drop in an vouch for it?) I read somewhere that you use programs that use common words, 2 numbers at the end, capital first letter and other similiar variables to hit the weaker passwords. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
I've heard jokes like "if we give him kills, do we call it welfare?" "typical black guy, stealing kills" "now i know why riot made him an AD carry...so he can buy life'steal'" And some guy in my one game suggested to make a burglar lucian skin. LOL oh god.....this is so terribly wrong. | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On August 23 2013 08:11 Ketara wrote: I think it's pretty obvious that if you build Twisted Fate on Jax you win the game. I knew I was doing something wrong! | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Faced another 3 ranged ADC/Onhit team a while before that with a Vayne Jungle Ashe bot Ez mid.. If you're the top or jungle, what do you do against that? Pick someone who can handle a ranged lane and try to get a Thornmail and build tanky? I feel like Thornmail is so strong but never used. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:06 obesechicken13 wrote: Faced a Twitch Lucian Teemo team today. Faced another 3 ranged ADC/Onhit team a while before that with a Vayne Jungle Ashe bot Ez mid.. If you're the top or jungle, what do you do against that? Pick someone who can handle a ranged lane and try to get a Thornmail and build tanky? I feel like Thornmail is so strong but never used. Thornmail been seeing a lot of play recently actually. Usually pros get their SV (or BV) with sunfire+randuins, and finish it up with thornmail. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:10 wei2coolman wrote: Thornmail been seeing a lot of play recently actually. Usually pros get their SV (or BV) with sunfire+randuins, and finish it up with thornmail. I didn't know that. It's really decent when you do the math out assuming the enemy team is mainly autoattack reliant. I ended up playing Rengar because their team was so squishy and went 12-4 though. Assassins are definitely another way of dealing with this crap. | ||
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[-Bluewolf-]
United States609 Posts
On August 23 2013 10:44 MoonBear wrote:I have heard KeePass being mentioned before but have never used it nor can I vouch for it so take it for what you will. (Unless R1CH decides to drop in an vouch for it?) I use KeyPass at work as we have a ton of passwords to keep straight. I'd recommend the application (especially as it works on Ubuntu/Mac/Windows). | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 23 2013 10:40 ticklishmusic wrote: Imagine the rage when the support takes the moneybag EDIT: Also, completely legit Lee Sin support steal all da moneybags from the enemy Luckily, most people are dumb and have ez passwords, and only paranoid nerds with no money like me do it. I use the shifted letter thing, except my passwords are usually a few lines from a song. personally, I wouldn't rely on a method that relies on being unpopular for its security. If crackers really wanted to they could easily add "shift keys" as an option and it would barely slow the program down. This already happened with replacing letters in words with leetspeak -- once enough people started doing it, all the cracker programs now do it too, and it's mostly worthless as a password securing shortcut. EDIT: At this point I'd almost advocate generating strings of 12 random characters and just writing it down, lol. At least they'd have to break into your house to get it. You'd be surprised how fast muscle memory can learn something like 12 random characters -- you can shred your password once your muscles "get it". Obviously the password manager programs are probably the best way to go, though. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:13 obesechicken13 wrote: I didn't know that. It's really decent when you do the math out assuming the enemy team is mainly autoattack reliant. I ended up playing Rengar because their team was so squishy and went 12-4 though. Assassins are definitely another way of dealing with this crap. laning against ADC's can be annoying if you don't grab the right type of champs. Strong casters are also a good choice against them, like Lux, or Annie. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Its also is a little hard to justify IMO. Only a tank is going to be building thornmail, and honestly, the AD is going to try and not hit the tank. Sure he'll attack you if you're the only one in range and it'll mitigate and reflect damage, though the enemy AD will probably lifesteal back most of it. Maybe as a final item against a very auto-attack based team, but kind of hard to justify otherwise. Randuin's is generally sufficient, and stacking a FH instead of Thornmail is generally more useful even against an auto-attacking team. Also, I've noticed that being a support main really affects the way I think about League. Like, I always think a lot about the cost of items (which is why I'm reluctant to build Doran's) and how they benefit the entire team. Then I play an AP mid and end with pathetic cs but like 4/0 coming out of laning phase because I'm always harassing and forgetting to CS. | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
On August 23 2013 08:13 beefhamburger wrote: preparing for the rise of triforce NIDALEE again + SV + BOTRK FIXD | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:29 wei2coolman wrote: laning against ADC's can be annoying if you don't grab the right type of champs. Strong casters are also a good choice against them, like Lux, or Annie. As someone who just got dominated in lane by a Mid Lucian I can attest to this. | ||
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