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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 23 2013 04:40 GMT
#461
So, is the consensus that Lucian is OP despite the fact his Q sometimes costs twice the normal mana?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 04:41:06
August 23 2013 04:40 GMT
#462
He's probably not OP but he's got some decent deeps.

Edit: Although the ult CD is pretttttty low.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2013 04:48 GMT
#463
Well, that intro is far far better than anything they've done before.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 23 2013 04:49 GMT
#464
Haven't seen a lucian yet on launch day despite playing ranked much of the day. Not a bad day. Also grinding my way up to diamond, 4-6 points at a time. Going is slow, and throws are massive, but making progress.

I'm not quite sure why alistar has such a low winrate on lolking, is it because people don't take the time to learn him? He's pretty strong especially if your team needs initiation and beef from the support position. Can't really pick him into a pokey lane, but he's so good otherwise.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 04:58:24
August 23 2013 04:58 GMT
#465
On August 23 2013 13:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Faced a Twitch Lucian Teemo team today.
Faced another 3 ranged ADC/Onhit team a while before that with a Vayne Jungle Ashe bot Ez mid..

If you're the top or jungle, what do you do against that? Pick someone who can handle a ranged lane and try to get a Thornmail and build tanky? I feel like Thornmail is so strong but never used.


Just pick a "sticky" team. Basically, just pick a team that is impossible to peel off. Lots of slows, lots of gap closers, lots of speed ups, etc. Off the top of my head, mundo, jax, irelia, rumble for top and xin, j4, lee sin, and maokai jungle. You also need your team to be able to follow up for this to work.
im deaf
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
August 23 2013 05:11 GMT
#466
On August 23 2013 13:49 Amui wrote:
Haven't seen a lucian yet on launch day despite playing ranked much of the day. Not a bad day. Also grinding my way up to diamond, 4-6 points at a time. Going is slow, and throws are massive, but making progress.

I'm not quite sure why alistar has such a low winrate on lolking, is it because people don't take the time to learn him? He's pretty strong especially if your team needs initiation and beef from the support position. Can't really pick him into a pokey lane, but he's so good otherwise.


I think Zyra, Sona and Nami being so popular these days makes Alistar a sad cow.
I'm not even sure how he performs vs a thresh in lane.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 05:12:38
August 23 2013 05:11 GMT
#467
On August 23 2013 13:49 Amui wrote:
Haven't seen a lucian yet on launch day despite playing ranked much of the day. Not a bad day. Also grinding my way up to diamond, 4-6 points at a time. Going is slow, and throws are massive, but making progress.

I'm not quite sure why alistar has such a low winrate on lolking, is it because people don't take the time to learn him? He's pretty strong especially if your team needs initiation and beef from the support position. Can't really pick him into a pokey lane, but he's so good otherwise.


Because he's old as heck and costs 450 ip (and therefore suffers from power creep and lolmana), and that headbutt pulverize combo is a little finnicky-- if you mess it up, it really sucks. I've got at least 100 games with him, and I still mess it up sometimes because of ping on different internet and other reasons. He's not really an amazing initiator without flash for a surprise WQ, and he still needs HP to be effective.

Like, why would you play Ali with a risky WQ combo when you could play like Leona (EQ so much safer, W makes her tanky R great initiation) or Thresh or Blitz for a much safer and easier hook? He's a melee support with no real way to get around the Sona/Lulu/Nami triangle except a mediocre heal.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
August 23 2013 05:12 GMT
#468
This is not a rant, nor i need to go to QQ thread, its a genuine concern, ill try to be as explicit as possible, yet i have a mediocre english at best, so please bear with me.

I liked to play Starcraft 1, back in the PGT days, used to be B- Rating(not much by foreign or korean standards but still lets say i was very bad at the time, and i would own the random pug).

Im completly lost in this game, i dont really have much time to play as i used to when i was in school(work as an internal lawyer for a smallish company in Mexico).

I try to play ranked using the best possible mindset to me, i tend to withstand losses very well and not to rage at all, i used to watch smashgizmo stream to find out about the current meta, as he tends to ramble(not sure if this word is correct not trying to be offensive or anything) about the whole scene and the viable strats today.

I know there is a "how to get better thread" i think i need to get pointed out my mistakes to me, anyone willing or is there an initiative to people that are bad, but are willing to get better.

Thx in advance.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
August 23 2013 05:12 GMT
#469
On August 23 2013 12:32 BlackPaladin wrote:
Oh god I love this Lucian release. Omg, the racial jokes. Riot knew this would happen but still did it lol. And when they do it, they decide to give him 2 guns.
I've heard jokes like
"if we give him kills, do we call it welfare?"
"typical black guy, stealing kills"
"now i know why riot made him an AD carry...so he can buy life'steal'"

And some guy in my one game suggested to make a burglar lucian skin. LOL oh god.....this is so terribly wrong.


This is what happens when for you have 3 year drought because Riot's policy on champion ethnicity was "we aren't racist there just aren't black people in runeterra". If champions had been ethnically diverse sooner it wouldn't have been so unusual and the community might have move passed it by now. But then maybe I'm giving the community too much credit...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 23 2013 05:21 GMT
#470
huh people make fun of black people all the time itll blow over
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 23 2013 05:26 GMT
#471
On August 23 2013 14:12 AleKSei23 wrote:
This is not a rant, nor i need to go to QQ thread, its a genuine concern, ill try to be as explicit as possible, yet i have a mediocre english at best, so please bear with me.

I liked to play Starcraft 1, back in the PGT days, used to be B- Rating(not much by foreign or korean standards but still lets say i was very bad at the time, and i would own the random pug).

Im completly lost in this game, i dont really have much time to play as i used to when i was in school(work as an internal lawyer for a smallish company in Mexico).

I try to play ranked using the best possible mindset to me, i tend to withstand losses very well and not to rage at all, i used to watch smashgizmo stream to find out about the current meta, as he tends to ramble(not sure if this word is correct not trying to be offensive or anything) about the whole scene and the viable strats today.

I know there is a "how to get better thread" i think i need to get pointed out my mistakes to me, anyone willing or is there an initiative to people that are bad, but are willing to get better.

Thx in advance.

What time zone are you?
Try to play in the TL LoL IHs.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
August 23 2013 05:31 GMT
#472
On August 23 2013 14:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 14:12 AleKSei23 wrote:
This is not a rant, nor i need to go to QQ thread, its a genuine concern, ill try to be as explicit as possible, yet i have a mediocre english at best, so please bear with me.

I liked to play Starcraft 1, back in the PGT days, used to be B- Rating(not much by foreign or korean standards but still lets say i was very bad at the time, and i would own the random pug).

Im completly lost in this game, i dont really have much time to play as i used to when i was in school(work as an internal lawyer for a smallish company in Mexico).

I try to play ranked using the best possible mindset to me, i tend to withstand losses very well and not to rage at all, i used to watch smashgizmo stream to find out about the current meta, as he tends to ramble(not sure if this word is correct not trying to be offensive or anything) about the whole scene and the viable strats today.

I know there is a "how to get better thread" i think i need to get pointed out my mistakes to me, anyone willing or is there an initiative to people that are bad, but are willing to get better.

Thx in advance.

What time zone are you?
Try to play in the TL LoL IHs.



PST its 10:30 my time right now, i usually play from 6:30pm to 11pm 12~
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 23 2013 05:32 GMT
#473
On August 23 2013 14:12 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 12:32 BlackPaladin wrote:
Oh god I love this Lucian release. Omg, the racial jokes. Riot knew this would happen but still did it lol. And when they do it, they decide to give him 2 guns.
I've heard jokes like
"if we give him kills, do we call it welfare?"
"typical black guy, stealing kills"
"now i know why riot made him an AD carry...so he can buy life'steal'"

And some guy in my one game suggested to make a burglar lucian skin. LOL oh god.....this is so terribly wrong.


This is what happens when for you have 3 year drought because Riot's policy on champion ethnicity was "we aren't racist there just aren't black people in runeterra". If champions had been ethnically diverse sooner it wouldn't have been so unusual and the community might have move passed it by now. But then maybe I'm giving the community too much credit...


The funny thing is they would rather have a 6 year old girl fight a giant tentacle monster from the void. But a black guy? NOPE, we ain't got none of them here. lol
It's so ridiculously funny to me. Glad we're going to have more variety than "giant boob with feet" and "tall muscular white dude" though.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 23 2013 05:36 GMT
#474
Only white people think you need to include other races in games.
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
August 23 2013 05:42 GMT
#475
On August 23 2013 14:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Only white people think you need to include other races in games.


Just popping in to say that I am black like most of my friends and that we are excited that there is finally a black character in the game. I re installed even. Just saying it's about damn time!
Twitter: @KingKosi
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#476
well that was easily disproven
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 23 2013 05:49 GMT
#477
I don't play games without Chinese characters in them.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2013 05:59 GMT
#478
luckily runeterra is asia and california
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
August 23 2013 06:03 GMT
#479
A very specific part of California though, California is a diverse place.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 06:04:49
August 23 2013 06:03 GMT
#480
On August 23 2013 14:59 UniversalSnip wrote:
luckily runeterra is asia and california


California is way more ethnically diverse than Runeterra is.

I didn't have a concept of what "racism" was growing up until I left California, really.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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