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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#1541
On August 03 2013 03:15 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yi is really bad in lane now.
Prolly need to jungle him.
But if I wanted to play a jungler with which i just farm up till 6 i'd play + Show Spoiler +
Akali


I salute you.


Jungle Akali are the words of summoning required to call the dread Seuss.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#1542
On August 03 2013 03:10 Slusher wrote:
what about that la pucelle?

Lots of fun. Bear Fungus is the best bear ever. Though it should be noted that the game looks... not so good on big tbs now.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#1543
Jungle Yi is strong. Clears really fast and is a AD caster with sustained damage and super fast and free (minus mana) resets. His laning is nerfed to the ground though (thank goodness!).
Jaedong :3
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#1544
howthe fuck is q an ad caster when his q is weaker than even irelias on a single target unless you get tons of autos
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 18:30:39
August 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#1545
i'm sold, irelia is now a top tier ad caster
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#1546
On August 03 2013 03:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:31 sylverfyre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:27 Alaric wrote:
FF V had good moments and a decent plot, despite pretty minimal character development. The job system is pretty nifty too, although it's very grind-enticing, which is Evil.

IV had decent moments too, but suffered a lot from the sacrifice syndrome (stop killing/"killing" characters everytime you need to switch the party dammit).

VII lost a lot of appeal to me once I understood that it was a mistake if Jenova seemed like the true villain, and that the creator indeed intended for uber-emo proto-goth dude Sephiroth to be the compelling villain for the game. Meh.
(Several characters are also ruined if you ever try to consider the additional games cannon. I refuse to consider Cloud and his lab flashback in the light of Crisis' Core final scenes.)

FF VI's job system was nice, but the magic/esper system basically reduced character to their job command, since it made it so easy to get all characters at the same level, with exactly the same stats (maybe not HP/MP) and same spells. Not as grating as FF VIII's system though, but it made the game pretty easy past a point, sadly.

In literally any (single player)RPG if you powerlevel, you can make the game trivially easy. Even "super hard" optional bosses don't really pose much of a challenge if you just grind the challenge away.

Story-wise, it's best to view older RPGs (primarily ones in the era of FF4-6, CT) more as a novel, whereas newer ones (FF7+, etc) are more of an interactive movie.


In 8, you had to mix max your power leveling or you were a dread motherfucker.

Or you could *not* level and get carried by draw magics/card mod.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 18:38:29
August 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#1547
On August 03 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 00:31 sylverfyre wrote:
On August 03 2013 00:27 Alaric wrote:
FF V had good moments and a decent plot, despite pretty minimal character development. The job system is pretty nifty too, although it's very grind-enticing, which is Evil.

IV had decent moments too, but suffered a lot from the sacrifice syndrome (stop killing/"killing" characters everytime you need to switch the party dammit).

VII lost a lot of appeal to me once I understood that it was a mistake if Jenova seemed like the true villain, and that the creator indeed intended for uber-emo proto-goth dude Sephiroth to be the compelling villain for the game. Meh.
(Several characters are also ruined if you ever try to consider the additional games cannon. I refuse to consider Cloud and his lab flashback in the light of Crisis' Core final scenes.)

FF VI's job system was nice, but the magic/esper system basically reduced character to their job command, since it made it so easy to get all characters at the same level, with exactly the same stats (maybe not HP/MP) and same spells. Not as grating as FF VIII's system though, but it made the game pretty easy past a point, sadly.

In literally any (single player)RPG if you powerlevel, you can make the game trivially easy. Even "super hard" optional bosses don't really pose much of a challenge if you just grind the challenge away.

Story-wise, it's best to view older RPGs (primarily ones in the era of FF4-6, CT) more as a novel, whereas newer ones (FF7+, etc) are more of an interactive movie.

That's a really ambiguous way to describe it. Novels and movies can both have the same caliber stories, it's just that Hollywood decides to be shit.

I think a better way to describe it is plot-oriented vs character-oriented. Old FFs really had "stop bad guy, save world, win game", with some character development like FF4. FF3, for instance, basically had no character development from what I remember, and was basically a story of saving the world. Chrono Trigger did this as well.

Edit: OK Frog had decent character development but everyone else was basically a caricature after their intro story was over.

Newer ones, specifically the FF VII - X era, focused more on the characters and their stories more than just saving the world for the sake of saving it. I like this better, personally, as I get more invested in the personalities than overarching plot in most stories.
FF4 / FF6 felt like they had more of a story than 'stop bad guy' and some -seroius- character development. I still find it way more easy to be invested in characters like Rydia or Locke than Cloud or Tifa. Some of the problem is that a lot of the plot and world-building is tied up in optional conversation that a lot of people skip. This is more of an issue in presentation than strictly a measure of quality though.

I was more talking about presentation than anything else. Starting with FF7, video became a more usable way to present the events of a game. I wasn't trying ot say "books are better" but more "this is how they are different."

This is even more true the more modern you get (tech gets better -> more possible to incorporate better/more video into RPGs)
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
August 02 2013 18:33 GMT
#1548
Speaking of top tier ad casters, trynd has once again fade into obscurity.
Best Teemo World
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#1549
On August 03 2013 03:33 qanik wrote:
Speaking of top tier ad casters, trynd has once again fade into obscurity.

I...what?
There are so many things wrong with that sentence.
Not sure if I just traveled to Romania though.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#1550
On August 03 2013 03:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:15 Seuss wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yi is really bad in lane now.
Prolly need to jungle him.
But if I wanted to play a jungler with which i just farm up till 6 i'd play + Show Spoiler +
Akali


I salute you.


Jungle Akali are the words of summoning required to call the dread Seuss.


Hey I jungle Akali too! Just not often as I tend to get reported when I do it, win or lose.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#1551
On August 03 2013 03:41 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:15 Seuss wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yi is really bad in lane now.
Prolly need to jungle him.
But if I wanted to play a jungler with which i just farm up till 6 i'd play + Show Spoiler +
Akali


I salute you.


Jungle Akali are the words of summoning required to call the dread Seuss.


Hey I jungle Akali too! Just not often as I tend to get reported when I do it, win or lose.


thats how I feel about Morg, and I honestly think it's so strong.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#1552
On August 03 2013 03:09 Gahlo wrote:
FE>AW

AW is redeemed by 4 person hotseat multiplayer over a single GBA.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#1553
Vague terminology and terms being used incorrectly...

Trynd autos more than most AD Tops. He's definitely not an AD Caster. Renek falls into that category better.
Trynd is stupid silly because of how he scales. Just because players no longer pick him up doesn't change anything about him. I personally think he's very strong.

I use Renekton and Darius the most Top. Wukong would also be included here but I find him better suited Mid. Rengar is a lane bully and can also insta-gib carries late game but I find him very hit or miss.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#1554
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon is awesome. I am currently playing the highest possible difficulty and you just have to always play with the eprfect strategy. On one map I took only pirates and camped in the middle of a lake because no one else can walk on water LOL. Dude Fire Emblem is the best single player RPG series.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#1555
On August 03 2013 03:33 qanik wrote:
Speaking of top tier ad casters, trynd has once again fade into obscurity.


Haha, this actually made is lol pretty hard, assuming you're kidding here of course.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Daikas
Profile Joined December 2010
United States118 Posts
August 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#1556
You can probably guess my favorite RPGS by my rune page names; FFX, SO2 + SO3. Awesome music, good gameplay, cool stories.
Is that a sword? Luxury! Is that a horse? Sloth! Is that a helmet? Vanity!
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 19:02:49
August 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#1557
On August 03 2013 03:53 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:33 qanik wrote:
Speaking of top tier ad casters, trynd has once again fade into obscurity.


Haha, this actually made is lol pretty hard, assuming you're kidding here of course.

Would you retroactively not laugh if it was srs?

Edit: While we're on the topic of old RPG's, no love for Shining Force 2? And no one has mentioned Super Mario RPG?!
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 19:05:06
August 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#1558
On August 03 2013 03:59 Daikas wrote:
You can probably guess my favorite RPGS by my rune page names; FFX, SO2 + SO3. Awesome music, good gameplay, cool stories.

Is your sig UtherParty??

I liked Shining Force! It's like the only one I've played so I've skipped over this episode of GD
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 02 2013 19:06 GMT
#1559
Personally I would call trynda a melee marksman.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 02 2013 19:08 GMT
#1560
I lost to Shushei's Nami mid.

I feel depressed.
The legend of Darien lives on
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