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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 01 2013 02:42 GMT
#701
On August 01 2013 11:27 FinestHour wrote:
i already hate everything so the game has succeeded

haha. Why don't you just play normals or aram to relax? The search time is basically the same and the level of play too.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:49:15
August 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#702
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.

besides you guys (minus yango) Tend to ignore anything i do positive because it doesn't fit your impression of me. I tend to be far more accurate with regards to whats good in the game than you guys give me credit for, because you ignore those positives.
heyitsme
Profile Joined June 2008
153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:48:53
August 01 2013 02:47 GMT
#703
it seems like Lucian got released after all

edit: haha nevermind he appears in the summoner profile but not in the shop
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#704
On August 01 2013 11:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.


to be fair you play devils advocate on pretty much everything regardless of defensibility
Carrilord has arrived.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#705
On August 01 2013 11:48 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.


to be fair you play devils advocate on pretty much everything regardless of defensibility


I don't think he is quite that much of a contrarian, I really believe he just thinks in a way that leads him to disbelieve what people say until he sees it for himself. I've never seen him change his opinion based on the argument, so I'm guessing much like Shikyo he has to see it himself to believe it.
Hey! How you doin'?
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
August 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#706
On August 01 2013 11:47 heyitsme wrote:
it seems like Lucian got released after all

edit: haha nevermind he appears in the summoner profile but not in the shop


I relogged so fast to check. T_T
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 01 2013 02:53 GMT
#707
Man... I've got a bad feeling about this new Yi. I played ad yi before, just as like a backdoor proxy ninja who did nothing but push turrets. But now I'm like ham mode jesus activate. Killing kids before they even know its coming. This shit way wack.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 01 2013 02:53 GMT
#708
your profiles lolking ratings dont actually have any real meaning right? not actually indicative of your actual mmr or anything?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#709
On August 01 2013 11:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:48 Slusher wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.


to be fair you play devils advocate on pretty much everything regardless of defensibility


I don't think he is quite that much of a contrarian, I really believe he just thinks in a way that leads him to disbelieve what people say until he sees it for himself. I've never seen him change his opinion based on the argument, so I'm guessing much like Shikyo he has to see it himself to believe it.

I trust in a lot of things people say, but not when they are provably wrong and i have had experience/knowledge in that regard that points toward what someone says being wrong. People give yango credit for preaching about the strength of locket, but it was something i was advocating from its release, and then brought up again right after S3 changes were released, explaining it was the most cost efficient armor item in the game, and yango picked up on it around a similiar time and started posting about it after, yango has a reputation so he got credit.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 02:57:31
August 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#710
I kinda prefered being in division I because the progress was slow, so even with a loss streak or a win streak you didn't move that much, maybe 30 LP? It made progress (when you're consistently over 30 LP, then over 50, etc.) over the course of a bunch of games seem more significant, compared to the divison V where I just rocketed into a promo series almost right away, ate baddies, had a loss streak a bunch of which was due to myself down to 25 or so LP (with an Elo initially way higher than the division, thus low losses), climbed back to promo in 4-5 games, ate kids, back to promo in a game, briefly wanted to rip my brains out, back to promo in a game², then just had random games with a collection of baddies in one and myself playing like trash and getting heavily carried in the following one.

It definitely didn't feel as satisfying getting up, but maybe it's because the system telling me "you should be higher" came down to me thinking I can't really register progress through it until I'm stabilised.
I liked the Bo5 a lot more than the Bo3 too. If your first game goes awry, say because of a troll, or a particularly stupid guy, you basically get a "you've got no room for mistakes because each game is critical now" vibe, compared to a Bo5 where it's just "yeah, yeah, you've got less leeway now, what then?".

On the other hand it seems that people prefer the Bo3 because the Bo5 are longer and put more pressure on them, from what I've read? And there's also the fact that series don't mean shit because they're a ponctual event while you're looking at the long run to track progress.
Still, earning +28 a win as a standard feels weird.


Edit: on a totally unrelated subject ('cept that it was the guy who carried my sorry ass), a player had a summoner icon depicting the "shadow" of a tower (a tower with the sun shining behind it and casting a shadow on it, so black/orange/yellow tones) and when I asked where it came from he said:
Ð Jabberwock: champion in riot tournament
Ð Jabberwock: best jungler EU regional
Anyone has an idea what it is? Never heard of it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2013 02:57 GMT
#711
On August 01 2013 11:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:48 Slusher wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.


to be fair you play devils advocate on pretty much everything regardless of defensibility


I don't think he is quite that much of a contrarian, I really believe he just thinks in a way that leads him to disbelieve what people say until he sees it for himself. I've never seen him change his opinion based on the argument, so I'm guessing much like Shikyo he has to see it himself to believe it.

I trust in a lot of things people say, but not when they are provably wrong and i have had experience/knowledge in that regard that points toward what someone says being wrong. People give yango credit for preaching about the strength of locket, but it was something i was advocating from its release, and then brought up again right after S3 changes were released, explaining it was the most cost efficient armor item in the game, and yango picked up on it around a similiar time and started posting about it after, yango has a reputation so he got credit.

I feel like I should mention Yango has given you credit for that in Staff Chat before.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#712
I just witnessed my first Yi remake. It was a blind pick normals, and I'm bad, so it was poor quality of play, but this dude fed hard - went 2-9 before 20 minutes, but was still able to solo a fed Skarnar and then got a few items and destroyed everyone.

PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 03:01:52
August 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#713
On August 01 2013 11:54 Alaric wrote:
I kinda prefered being in division I because the progress was slow, so even with a loss streak or a win streak you didn't move that much, maybe 30 LP? It made progress (when you're consistently over 30 LP, then over 50, etc.) over the course of a bunch of games seem more significant, compared to the divison V where I just rocketed into a promo series almost right away, ate baddies, had a loss streak a bunch of which was due to myself down to 25 or so LP (with an Elo initially way higher than the division, thus low losses), climbed back to promo in 4-5 games, ate kids, back to promo in a game, briefly wanted to rip my brains out, back to promo in a game², then just had random games with a collection of baddies in one and myself playing like trash and getting heavily carried in the following one.

It definitely didn't feel as satisfying getting up, but maybe it's because the system telling me "you should be higher" came down to me thinking I can't really register progress through it until I'm stabilised.
I liked the Bo5 a lot more than the Bo3 too. If your first game goes awry, say because of a troll, or a particularly stupid guy, you basically get a "you've got no room for mistakes because each game is critical now" vibe, compared to a Bo5 where it's just "yeah, yeah, you've got less leeway now, what then?".

On the other hand it seems that people prefer the Bo3 because the Bo5 are longer and put more pressure on them, from what I've read? And there's also the fact that series don't mean shit because they're a ponctual event while you're looking at the long run to track progress.
Still, earning +28 a win as a standard feels weird.

i was in a similar boat when i started playing ranked again, had decayed to bronze so i was gaining leaps and bounds of LP per win. I still am but about half as much only 20-26 a win instead of the 40 i was gaining. It makes the timing of your losses far more important. if i lose 2 games in a row outside of my series it makes less than a half a win difference, but losing in promo twice sets me back 2 wins. Its odd.

On August 01 2013 11:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
I feel like I should mention Yango has given you credit for that in Staff Chat before.

oh i'm certainly not claiming yango is some sort of scumbag. just that as a forum if someone has an idea or makes a statement yango agrees with, its colloquially yangos idea. He and i exchange PMs on stuff from time to time and he views the game in a similar way to me. The legend grows
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#714
On August 01 2013 11:22 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:20 FinestHour wrote:
i thought i was done with ladder anxiety when i played sc2
then division 1

then you lose promo 4 times and hate everything

I'm only silver1 and 46 points and I'm already feeling it. I can barely manage to convince myself to play ranked 1-2 days a week.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#715
On August 01 2013 11:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:48 Slusher wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:40 caelym wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:20 Don_Julio wrote:
Good thing about a new patch: Lots of Yango posts
Bad thing about a new patch: >20 nw pages if you aren't online for 8 hours
Ugly thing about THIS (and last) patch: PrinceXizor posts again


Not seeing why people hate Xizor more than they'd hate anyone else on this forum...

he seems to purposely bait people into polarizing topics and get everyone worked up. basically a good forum troll.

? Not getting anyone worked up. :/ sorry that i have conversations with people. feel free to ignore them.


to be fair you play devils advocate on pretty much everything regardless of defensibility


I don't think he is quite that much of a contrarian, I really believe he just thinks in a way that leads him to disbelieve what people say until he sees it for himself. I've never seen him change his opinion based on the argument, so I'm guessing much like Shikyo he has to see it himself to believe it.

I trust in a lot of things people say, but not when they are provably wrong and i have had experience/knowledge in that regard that points toward what someone says being wrong. People give yango credit for preaching about the strength of locket, but it was something i was advocating from its release, and then brought up again right after S3 changes were released, explaining it was the most cost efficient armor item in the game, and yango picked up on it around a similiar time and started posting about it after, yango has a reputation so he got credit.


But there are many things provably wrong, I'd stand to say roughly 99% of this game has things that aren't 100% black and white, with how volatile the game is from a game to game perspective, as well as spanning over many skill regions. You could argue pretty much anything, if you wanted to, so I don't blame you for seeming to go against the crowd. You could argue about a lot more.

You still have never changed your stance in an argument in any GD I've ever seen.

But that's enough off-topic chat for me, I have to say after playing all this afternoon, HOLY FUCK I'M SICK OF YI. It's only been one day, but I'm sickened with how useless he can be early, and after he gets a kill or two (he can choose to all-in with his ult and if it looks bad just run away) just turns into this monster that kills you in a right click and a Q. It's really no different than most other snowbally melee ads, I've just never seen so many in a short amount of time. Wtb thornmail every game.
Hey! How you doin'?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 03:04 GMT
#716
On August 01 2013 12:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
But that's enough off-topic chat for me, I have to say after playing all this afternoon, HOLY FUCK I'M SICK OF YI. It's only been one day, but I'm sickened with how useless he can be early, and after he gets a kill or two (he can choose to all-in with his ult and if it looks bad just run away) just turns into this monster that kills you in a right click and a Q. It's really no different than most other snowbally melee ads, I've just never seen so many in a short amount of time. Wtb thornmail every game.

I feel like as weird as it sounds Yi is the poster child for riot trying to make a dota-ish champion and then giving him scaling and nerfing his base stats so that he is LoL-ish. Yi kit seems to be one that is pretty easily balanced without scaling existing. but due to the ability to multiplicative scale everything about him, has no happy middle-ground.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
August 01 2013 03:06 GMT
#717
On August 01 2013 12:04 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:00 Zdrastochye wrote:
But that's enough off-topic chat for me, I have to say after playing all this afternoon, HOLY FUCK I'M SICK OF YI. It's only been one day, but I'm sickened with how useless he can be early, and after he gets a kill or two (he can choose to all-in with his ult and if it looks bad just run away) just turns into this monster that kills you in a right click and a Q. It's really no different than most other snowbally melee ads, I've just never seen so many in a short amount of time. Wtb thornmail every game.

I feel like as weird as it sounds Yi is the poster child for riot trying to make a dota-ish champion and then giving him scaling and nerfing his base stats so that he is LoL-ish. Yi kit seems to be one that is pretty easily balanced without scaling existing. but due to the ability to multiplicative scale everything about him, has no happy middle-ground.


So what you're saying is... Riot needs to introduce rapier?
Hey! How you doin'?
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
August 01 2013 03:09 GMT
#718
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 03:12:56
August 01 2013 03:12 GMT
#719
On August 01 2013 12:09 .AK wrote:
Regardless of the validity of any particular argument, as a friend of Prince I can vouch for him not being a "troll". He may absolutely suck at internet arguing, capitalize worth shit, and be incoherent to the point of embarrassment but whatever he is arguing for he actually believes, meaning he doesn't just start shit for the sake of starting shit which is my definition of a "troll".
screw you ben. LOL in my defense i'm far better at explaining when i can physically show things because i'm a visual kind of person.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 01 2013 03:13 GMT
#720
On July 31 2013 16:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:11 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 31 2013 14:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
There's a lot of speculation that Riot is going to play a bigger part in the Challenger Series stuff next season. Mostly from the fact there are several former players, read people with Riot connections, (Hotshot, Dan Dihn) have shown interest in starting up Challenger teams.

Retirement league? Huehuehue.

I realize you're joking, but for clarity they are just looking to coach the teams.


I'm fairly certain HotShotGG still wants to be a player while DanDinh mentioned coaching.

On August 01 2013 07:26 Perplex wrote:
Wait why is this thread called yimacke? Isn't the new champs name lucian?

edit: oh wow I get it now, im dumb. I was pronouncing it "yuh-mock-ee" in my head and thought it was a new champion name..gg


Don't worry, I did the same thing for some reason. I guess it's due to watching so much anime that certain words automatically look like it should be pronounced in that manner. gg.
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