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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 00:09:51
August 01 2013 00:09 GMT
#581
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.
TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 00:11:27
August 01 2013 00:10 GMT
#582
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

There actually is a Test Server for DotA 2.

On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I don't think there's any individual champ who i consider problematic. Most of the issues I currently have with the game are systemic, such as mana cost creep or cost/slot efficiency in itemization.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 00:12 GMT
#583
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

DotA 2 yeah. but most of the PBE stuff are newly ported over heroes and bug fixes rather than actual updates. I'm referring to dota Updates like the new versions 6.78 and stuff. Those have a private beta test group, and rarely ever anything gets leaked, and then the new version comes all at once with no warning.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 01 2013 00:13 GMT
#584
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 01 2013 00:13 GMT
#585
Also, Xizor, DotaCinema is a pretty shitty example because I actually don't really like their content.

The gold standard for DotA content was and still is WoDotA. WoDotA.Black2 is a fucking hero.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 00:15 GMT
#586
On August 01 2013 09:13 TheYango wrote:
Also, Xizor, DotaCinema is a pretty shitty example because I actually don't really like their content.

The gold standard for DotA content was and still is WoDotA. WoDotA.Black2 is a fucking hero.

WodotA is nice for top 10's but other than that they content isn't great. Wodota funny time is bad for example. DotaCinema does far more than just top 10's.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 00:16:49
August 01 2013 00:15 GMT
#587
On August 01 2013 09:08 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I like how Riot hypes their patches just fine, but I think the hype would be accordingly greater if all of a sudden three champs came out at once. We'd all freak out like hell.

I think TL would go down due to all the bitching we'd do.


I genuinely believe everyone would be so excited for a massive meta change that there'd be no such thing. I mean, it was FUN reading the 6.78 thread in the TL DotA section. Everyone (mostly) was so interested in WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW.

To be perfectly honest, the Riot analog to that would be to only introduce new/sweeping content on Season changes. And I would kind of love that. But that's just me.


On August 01 2013 09:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.


Fizz apologist.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 01 2013 00:16 GMT
#588
is anyone in silver 1? i do mid and top
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 01 2013 00:16 GMT
#589
If only they would fix their fucking client.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 01 2013 00:17 GMT
#590
On August 01 2013 09:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.


I've hated Fizz long before yous tarted playing Fizz. Neo pls.
TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 01 2013 00:17 GMT
#591
On August 01 2013 09:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
Wodota funny time is bad for example.

Fuck you.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
August 01 2013 00:17 GMT
#592
Hmm. Additional changes incoming to EG? Wickd's been doing nothing but play AD when he's duoQ'd with Froggen for the last couple of hours, kinda odd.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 00:17 GMT
#593
On August 01 2013 09:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
Wodota funny time is bad for example.

Fuck you.

fuck you too man. LOL i really hate funny time. sorry yango.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 01 2013 00:18 GMT
#594
On August 01 2013 09:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:08 Gahlo wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I like how Riot hypes their patches just fine, but I think the hype would be accordingly greater if all of a sudden three champs came out at once. We'd all freak out like hell.

I think TL would go down due to all the bitching we'd do.


I genuinely believe everyone would be so excited for a massive meta change that there'd be no such thing. I mean, it was FUN reading the 6.78 thread in the TL DotA section. Everyone (mostly) was so interested in WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW.

To be perfectly honest, the Riot analog to that would be to only introduce new/sweeping content on Season changes. And I would kind of love that. But that's just me.


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.


Fizz apologist.

Sounds like Dota players just have Stockholm Syndrome :3
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 00:20:08
August 01 2013 00:18 GMT
#595
On August 01 2013 09:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
Wodota funny time is bad for example.

Fuck you.


Yango reduced to insults. Everyone run.



On August 01 2013 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:08 Gahlo wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would like to state for the record that I like how Riot hypes their patches just fine, but I think the hype would be accordingly greater if all of a sudden three champs came out at once. We'd all freak out like hell.

I think TL would go down due to all the bitching we'd do.


I genuinely believe everyone would be so excited for a massive meta change that there'd be no such thing. I mean, it was FUN reading the 6.78 thread in the TL DotA section. Everyone (mostly) was so interested in WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW.

To be perfectly honest, the Riot analog to that would be to only introduce new/sweeping content on Season changes. And I would kind of love that. But that's just me.


On August 01 2013 09:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.


Fizz apologist.

Sounds like Dota players just have Stockholm Syndrome :3


Just as I do for Riot. T_T
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#596
On August 01 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

There actually is a Test Server for DotA 2.

It is public/relatively wide in terms of access? Are there often leaks if not? Just curious, since people seem to talk as if they have no idea what's going to be in a DotA patch when it comes out.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#597
On August 01 2013 09:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:06 TheYango wrote:
Undoubtedly, the League community tends to be a lot more fickle and less tolerant of heroes getting picked/played a lot.


Riot needs to just delete all the heroes who have two skillsets - Lee Sin, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, etc. - and the game will be in a great place.

Also Fizz because fuck Fizz.

I like you, Cheep. But fu.


I've hated Fizz long before yous tarted playing Fizz. Neo pls.

No way...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#598
On August 01 2013 09:19 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

There actually is a Test Server for DotA 2.

It is public/relatively wide in terms of access? Are there often leaks if not? Just curious, since people seem to talk as if they have no idea what's going to be in a DotA patch when it comes out.

I'm pretty sure it's public.
Glorious SEA doto
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#599
On August 01 2013 09:19 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

There actually is a Test Server for DotA 2.

It is public/relatively wide in terms of access? Are there often leaks if not? Just curious, since people seem to talk as if they have no idea what's going to be in a DotA patch when it comes out.

DotA Updates =/= PBE patches.

90% of PBE changes are bug fixes every couple weeks or so they add in a ported over hero based on the amount of assets being added. Everything being added by PBE has already existed for a while or is a bug fix.

Actual dota updates are rare and have a number attached, like 6.78 for example. These are unannounced and have a private beta environment with personally selected beta testers.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#600
On August 01 2013 09:19 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
On August 01 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:40 PrinceXizor wrote:
Riot needs to stop generating their own hype. Asmos comment about dotas hype is right. Things are just DONE in dota. we don't get alerted of the patch until its out. Heroes just COme out with no warning. Riot tried to control and generate all their own hype, and it leaves the community pretty left out unless they follow the riot train. For instance there is no LoL channel that compares to how good DotaCinema is. there is no hype surrounding releases of patches, because its expectd that riot tells everyone whats in it beforehand, so when it comes out everyone is just thinking, yeah, thats what we had expected.

There's no PBE for DotA or DotA 2.

There actually is a Test Server for DotA 2.

It is public/relatively wide in terms of access? Are there often leaks if not? Just curious, since people seem to talk as if they have no idea what's going to be in a DotA patch when it comes out.

DotA 1 content patches (balance changes, new heroes, etc.) are all internal testing. The internal testing group is pretty closed and close to Icefrog, so real leaks tend to be pretty rare (though there are always lots of fakes).

DotA 2 patches (which is DotA 1 parity stuff, bugfixes, new DotA 2 functionality/features) always go live publicly on the DotA 2 Test Server before being released into main client.
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