[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 292

On August 19 2013 08:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
just to clarify, assuming equal farm, when you are level 18 an opponent without xp masteries will be level 17.6. It has basically no impact early game unless you have a specific cheese route in mind.

On August 19 2013 08:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
just to clarify, assuming equal farm, when you are level 18 an opponent without xp masteries will be level 17.6. It has basically no impact early game unless you have a specific cheese route in mind.

On August 19 2013 08:16 petered wrote:


I wasn't really following the jungle conversation, but how do the mechanics of experience work? I can't figure out an obvious way to calculate that 17.6 number.

On August 19 2013 08:16 iCanada wrote:


But all the junglers that go 21 utility aren't "equal farm" jungler.

If you a Nunu and you getting equal farm you doing it wrong. If you an Udyr and you not like double other junglers farm you doing it horribly horribly wrong.

On August 19 2013 07:32 zer0das wrote:


Amumu can. Jarvan probably can, but I don't know why you would want to. :>

On August 19 2013 08:21 UniversalSnip wrote:


xp masteries are good for winning because if you are not already winning you are doing it wrong

On August 19 2013 08:27 iCanada wrote:


Thats not really the point... If you already a jungler that has a faster clear/counter jungles obnoxiously going 21 utility allows you to have more sustain, run faster, and have increased XP gain which gives you larger windows of time in which you are a higher level (READ: Stronger) than the opponent.

Its a Starcraft website, you understand timing windows, no? Eehan timing?

On August 19 2013 08:27 iCanada wrote:


Thats not really the point... If you already a jungler that has a faster clear/counter jungles obnoxiously going 21 utility allows you to have more sustain, run faster, and have increased XP gain which gives you larger windows of time in which you are a higher level (READ: Stronger) than the opponent.

Its a Starcraft website, you understand timing windows, no? Eehan timing?

On August 19 2013 08:20 UniversalSnip wrote:


xp for level 18 divided by 1.05 gives you the xp you would have without the xp masteries, which is 18 thousand and something which is enough to get to a little over 17 and a half levels.

On August 19 2013 08:41 Seuss wrote:


Sustain, movement speed, and extra XP sound good conceptually, but most popular junglers don't really need any of those, and direct offensive/defensive stats are way, way more important (especially competitively).

On August 19 2013 08:30 UniversalSnip wrote:


yah but you're acting like that 5% is pretty meaningful when it's easily the weakest part of the tree, again excepting some planned out cheese route. it's silly to exaggerate and say it gets you levels ahead when you can clearly see it doesn't do that much.
The circumstances where you're actually a level ahead of your opponent in the midgame because of the mastery specifically exist so briefly, unless they've already gotten soul crushed. I don't think people would even abuse a margin that tiny properly in a competitive game let alone solo queue.

On August 19 2013 08:53 Seuss wrote:
On a completely different subject, Velocity eSports failed to win a single game last week. A certain, foolish someone promised that, in such an event, he would stream for an entire day and jungle whatever champions the peanut gallery deemed worthy to inflict upon him. The level of stupidity required for someone to make such an idiotic, ill-advised gamble is inconceivable, but nevertheless there was one ignorant man who did.

That silly sod is me.

Tomorrow, starting around 16:00 GMT (+00:00), Montegomery's Jungle Japers begins. I regret everything.

I reserve the right to practice any prescribed jungler in custom games before going into the queue to tarnish my good name. I also reserve the right to drop out of the ranked queue and into normals if champion select becomes a game of dodgeball. Finally, I reserve the right to weep bitter tears of regret, sorrow, profound sadness, and emptiness in any way I deem necessary.

On August 19 2013 08:53 Seuss wrote:
On a completely different subject, Velocity eSports failed to win a single game last week. A certain, foolish someone promised that, in such an event, he would stream for an entire day and jungle whatever champions the peanut gallery deemed worthy to inflict upon him. The level of stupidity required for someone to make such an idiotic, ill-advised gamble is inconceivable, but nevertheless there was one ignorant man who did.

That silly sod is me.

Tomorrow, starting around 16:00 GMT (+00:00), Montegomery's Jungle Japers begins. I regret everything.

I reserve the right to practice any prescribed jungler in custom games before going into the queue to tarnish my good name. I also reserve the right to drop out of the ranked queue and into normals if champion select becomes a game of dodgeball. Finally, I reserve the right to weep bitter tears of regret, sorrow, profound sadness, and emptiness in any way I deem necessary.

On August 19 2013 08:53 Cloud9157 wrote:
As seemingly outclassed Lee may be right now,

On August 19 2013 09:11 Alaric wrote:

1. Stupidity is never a criterion when it comes to gambling or not. Er, I mean, gambling. There's no "not gambling" option.
2. You better groom that goatee like a playboy if you want me to forgive your saying you regret a gamble. This is a criminal attitude which should make you more shameful than any jungling performance you might display tomorrow. Get your act together, Mr. Monte.