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On August 19 2013 10:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 09:45 obesechicken13 wrote:On August 19 2013 09:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 19 2013 08:53 Cloud9157 wrote:
As seemingly outclassed Lee may be right now, wat Most people did say he was outclassed after he dropped from the most highly picked champ with a 50+% pick rate (about half of all games due to Lolking's weird definition of pick rate) to what he is now. I felt like I was missing out by not jungling Lee when his pick rate was so high. people have been saying lee sin is bad for 2 years and people have been wrong for 2 years since for 2 years lee sin has never left top 3 most op champ in the game status he's still there now btw he's still picked/banned almost every game in asia where it matters
i ban lee sin every game or tell firstpick to do so.
Even if they player is subpar, he is still a pest that cant be killed without 5 minutes of chase.
Also, of they keep nerfing ADCs because of laning, Ashe will get op status back.
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Eh...I don't know if he's still ban worthy. He's strong for sure, but I think there are more OP champions in the pool.
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On August 19 2013 11:12 Aldrovandi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:06 BlueBird. wrote:On August 19 2013 10:21 Aldrovandi wrote:On August 19 2013 06:49 zer0das wrote:
If they want people to actually use executioner's calling, they need to change the build path and the stats. The build path has always been super awkward. Also it fits the weird niche of "not really a full item and the stat efficiency isn't really good enough to actually warrant buying it" even if you get a lot of mileage out of passive. If I find it hard to buy wriggles when it costs 2k and brings a lot to the table, how am I supposed to ever convince myself to buy executioners calling when it gives 20% crit and the champions I want to buy it on generally don't need crit? Poor slot efficiency you say? Builds out of a gp10? Only useful against champs who rely on sustain to win small fights? Could this be the next great support item? + Show Spoiler + morellonomicon is in the game, not sure which supports would build that instead ;p Morello's is even more expensive and you only get the passive when the target is below 40% health though. You know who would probably get Executioner's? Thresh. Because that guy is an asshole and can do whatever he wants since he gets so much for free.
That's only because Morellonomicon has USEFUL STATS.
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How much is Ashe used in leagues higher than silver? I've seen almost nothing besides Cait v Vayne adc matchups for about the past week and a half. I understand this is probably just a weird probability and I know people play other carries, but still, my goodness am I starting to get bored when I play support.
Thank God I found Morgana.
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On August 19 2013 10:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I BELIEVE IN CSHEEP. HE WAS THE HIPSTER MID EZREAL BEFORE PEOPLE DID MID EZREAL.
Ezreal was played mid only on release because adc mid was the meta back then...
When flash could pop projectiles and there was no such thing as AD marks/Quints
He also used to be played as a caster because W used to heal your team and increase their attack speed while damaging enemies and decreasing theirs
This was back when Nidalee was a bot lane champion with Soraka against duo lanes like Alistar/Blitz or Garen/Malphite
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On August 19 2013 11:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 10:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I BELIEVE IN CSHEEP. HE WAS THE HIPSTER MID EZREAL BEFORE PEOPLE DID MID EZREAL. Ezreal was played mid only on release because adc mid was the meta back then... When flash could pop projectiles and there was no such thing as AD marks/Quints He also used to be played as a caster because W used to heal your team and increase their attack speed while damaging enemies and decreasing theirs This was back when Nidalee was a bot lane champion with Soraka against duo lanes like Alistar/Blitz or Garen/Malphite
Sona Xin Zhao best S1 bot lane. Run over everyone, do stupid damage, ridiculous healing. I'd get innervating locket every game too.
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On August 19 2013 11:20 InfSunday wrote:
How much is Ashe used in leagues higher than silver? I've seen almost nothing besides Cait v Vayne adc matchups for about the past week and a half. I understand this is probably just a weird probability and I know people play other carries, but still, my goodness am I starting to get bored when I play support.
Thank God I found Morgana.
She's still one of the fewer played adcs, hell, I think I even see more Quinns and Corkis these days. If you like Morg, try Zyra support. Plays kinda similar and is flat out stronger imo.
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On August 19 2013 11:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 10:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I BELIEVE IN CSHEEP. HE WAS THE HIPSTER MID EZREAL BEFORE PEOPLE DID MID EZREAL. Ezreal was played mid only on release because adc mid was the meta back then... When flash could pop projectiles and there was no such thing as AD marks/Quints He also used to be played as a caster because W used to heal your team and increase their attack speed while damaging enemies and decreasing theirs This was back when Nidalee was a bot lane champion with Soraka against duo lanes like Alistar/Blitz or Garen/Malphite
i got gayed by ezreal a million times and thought he was op
then ezreal dropped off the face of the earth
then euro meta came along
then i thought wait why dont we put ez back mid
then i did
people dodged my queued 80% of the time when they saw "mid ez"
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On August 19 2013 11:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 10:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I BELIEVE IN CSHEEP. HE WAS THE HIPSTER MID EZREAL BEFORE PEOPLE DID MID EZREAL. Ezreal was played mid only on release because adc mid was the meta back then... When flash could pop projectiles and there was no such thing as AD marks/Quints He also used to be played as a caster because W used to heal your team and increase their attack speed while damaging enemies and decreasing theirs This was back when Nidalee was a bot lane champion with Soraka against duo lanes like Alistar/Blitz or Garen/Malphite
in general, ads in mid are still pretty strong though i remember playing a lot of mid ezreal during season 1-3 and it worked out very well. so idk nothing new to me o.O
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anyways ez mid is old news can we focus on the important topic here?
lee sin still has yet to be deleted and that's why league is shit game
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On August 19 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 09:40 Fealthas wrote:
So now that twitch is getting nerfs in the next patch, who is the next lanestomp adc? I think its going to be varus or graves, maybe a little Quinn? Maybe all the corki buffs will bring him back in. Varus still stupidly strong. Cait still going to be popular pick.
I don't know if its just me, but cait seems very weak if you just dont feed her and last hit under tower. If your spport cc's her than either she runs or dies as her fighting id subpar.
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On August 19 2013 11:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
anyways ez mid is old news can we focus on the important topic here?
lee sin still has yet to be deleted and that's why league is shit game
fizz
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On August 19 2013 11:41 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:33 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
anyways ez mid is old news can we focus on the important topic here?
lee sin still has yet to be deleted and that's why league is shit game fizz
can you go ban yourself
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On August 19 2013 11:36 Fealthas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:On August 19 2013 09:40 Fealthas wrote:
So now that twitch is getting nerfs in the next patch, who is the next lanestomp adc? I think its going to be varus or graves, maybe a little Quinn? Maybe all the corki buffs will bring him back in. Varus still stupidly strong. Cait still going to be popular pick. I don't know if its just me, but cait seems very weak if you just dont feed her and last hit under tower. If your spport cc's her than either she runs or dies as her fighting id subpar.
A cait played properly should usually come out of lane with a significant amount of gold ahead. Also, recently played cait for the first time after they nerfed her base AS. Holy shit it's so slow now.
I think it's silly when a champs turns fotm and people come out of the woodworks claiming "see! I told you it was op'd". When more often then naught it had to do with 10 other champs getting nerfed that made that champ popular.
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On August 19 2013 11:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On August 19 2013 10:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I BELIEVE IN CSHEEP. HE WAS THE HIPSTER MID EZREAL BEFORE PEOPLE DID MID EZREAL. Ezreal was played mid only on release because adc mid was the meta back then... When flash could pop projectiles and there was no such thing as AD marks/Quints He also used to be played as a caster because W used to heal your team and increase their attack speed while damaging enemies and decreasing theirs This was back when Nidalee was a bot lane champion with Soraka against duo lanes like Alistar/Blitz or Garen/Malphite i got gayed by ezreal a million times and thought he was op then ezreal dropped off the face of the earth then euro meta came along then i thought wait why dont we put ez back mid then i did people dodged my queued 80% of the time when they saw "mid ez"
Pretty sure they dodged your queue when they saw "Csheep"
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Part of what makes last-hitting as Graves so painful is that his base AS is so low it's pretty easy to abuse it on top of his range to harass him.
(Ezreal's got nerfed to the same amount, tried playing him after that, holy hell if he didn't feel clunky and stiff.)
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On August 19 2013 11:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:36 Fealthas wrote:On August 19 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:On August 19 2013 09:40 Fealthas wrote:
So now that twitch is getting nerfs in the next patch, who is the next lanestomp adc? I think its going to be varus or graves, maybe a little Quinn? Maybe all the corki buffs will bring him back in. Varus still stupidly strong. Cait still going to be popular pick. I don't know if its just me, but cait seems very weak if you just dont feed her and last hit under tower. If your spport cc's her than either she runs or dies as her fighting id subpar. A cait played properly should usually come out of lane with a significant amount of gold ahead. Also, recently played cait for the first time after they nerfed her base AS. Holy shit it's so slow now. I think it's silly when a champs turns fotm and people come out of the woodworks claiming "see! I told you it was op'd". When more often then naught it had to do with 10 other champs getting nerfed that made that champ popular.
not rly ezreal was always strong when nothing changed people were just dumb and american ezreal no dmg etc etc
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On August 19 2013 11:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:41 wei2coolman wrote:On August 19 2013 11:36 Fealthas wrote:On August 19 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:On August 19 2013 09:40 Fealthas wrote:
So now that twitch is getting nerfs in the next patch, who is the next lanestomp adc? I think its going to be varus or graves, maybe a little Quinn? Maybe all the corki buffs will bring him back in. Varus still stupidly strong. Cait still going to be popular pick. I don't know if its just me, but cait seems very weak if you just dont feed her and last hit under tower. If your spport cc's her than either she runs or dies as her fighting id subpar. A cait played properly should usually come out of lane with a significant amount of gold ahead. Also, recently played cait for the first time after they nerfed her base AS. Holy shit it's so slow now. I think it's silly when a champs turns fotm and people come out of the woodworks claiming "see! I told you it was op'd". When more often then naught it had to do with 10 other champs getting nerfed that made that champ popular. not rly ezreal was always strong when nothing changed people were just dumb and american ezreal no dmg etc etc
Oddone constantly talked about how bad ezreal was as an AD, then like 3-6 months later ezreal corki graves became the unstoppable triad. Oddone clearly has no clue what makes an AD carry good, but so many people watch his stream that whatever he says might as well be gospel.
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On August 19 2013 11:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 11:36 Fealthas wrote:On August 19 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:On August 19 2013 09:40 Fealthas wrote:
So now that twitch is getting nerfs in the next patch, who is the next lanestomp adc? I think its going to be varus or graves, maybe a little Quinn? Maybe all the corki buffs will bring him back in. Varus still stupidly strong. Cait still going to be popular pick. I don't know if its just me, but cait seems very weak if you just dont feed her and last hit under tower. If your spport cc's her than either she runs or dies as her fighting id subpar. A cait played properly should usually come out of lane with a significant amount of gold ahead. Also, recently played cait for the first time after they nerfed her base AS. Holy shit it's so slow now. I think it's silly when a champs turns fotm and people come out of the woodworks claiming "see! I told you it was op'd". When more often then naught it had to do with 10 other champs getting nerfed that made that champ popular.
One day vayne will be the draven terror of laning phase.
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On August 19 2013 11:49 Alaric wrote:
Part of what makes last-hitting as Graves so painful is that his base AS is so low it's pretty easy to abuse it on top of his range to harass him.
(Ezreal's got nerfed to the same amount, tried playing him after that, holy hell if he didn't feel clunky and stiff.)
His attack animation and projectile speed are literally some of the best. 3000 AA projectile speed i think might be highest in the game? (MF is 2800)
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