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On August 07 2013 12:08 TheYango wrote:
Welp, apparently All-Stars peaked at 18 million concurrent viewers, and there's absolutely no way S3 WC isn't beating All-Stars, so yeah, I have to eat crow already.
EDIT: Oh wait, the figure was 18 million unique viewers, it just got mis-quoted as concurrent. Stupid online media outlets get your facts straight.
Allstar concurrent viewer count was only around 200k, although the fxo coach only gathered number from 3 sources, he didn't count random sources like youtube or azubu and stuff.
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On August 07 2013 12:26 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 05:44 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 07 2013 05:40 NeoIllusions wrote:On August 07 2013 04:41 Requizen wrote:On August 07 2013 04:36 Ketara wrote:
This might be my favorite off topic conversation of all time. One of these days Neo is just gonna come in and ban like a dozen people at once. One of these days, I'm gonna snap and just darkness all of you. -_- 4 pages of pancake talk. Real. P.S.: Not even Lilly can save you, Req. Better than two pages of fish puns. i missed this can someone link plz
WHY
I cod help you out!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423340¤tpage=62
Neo don't kill me.
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On August 07 2013 12:35 canikizu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 12:08 TheYango wrote:
Welp, apparently All-Stars peaked at 18 million concurrent viewers, and there's absolutely no way S3 WC isn't beating All-Stars, so yeah, I have to eat crow already.
EDIT: Oh wait, the figure was 18 million unique viewers, it just got mis-quoted as concurrent. Stupid online media outlets get your facts straight. Allstar concurrent viewer count was only around 200k, although the fxo coach only gathered number from 3 sources, he didn't count random sources like youtube or azubu and stuff.
That was only for twitch... Korea and China alone probably had 500k+ each. I'm pretty sure I heard 1 million concurrent viewers if you include chinese and korean streams (maybe including television or not).
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I respect TB's opinion, but I don't think TI3 will surpass League. I think Valve would need to keep their promise of setting up some sort of league structure or helping teams be more stable. As it is now, it feels like there is 44 weeks of small tournaments and prize pools, then a month of gigantic hype and an out of this world prize pool. While it's awesome a team is going to walk away with over a million fucking dollars, The International is a standalone event. There is no league or feeder system that leads into it.
While I think Dota2 could surpass SC2 in Korea depending on how Nexon markets it, I see no way it touches League of Legends in Korea.
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I think we can beat around the bush all we want but we all know the truth (including TB).
HoN will destroy them all, and become the king of E-Sports, FOREVER.......
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Eh, I cant fault totalbiscuit for the league hating. He's done a lot for esports in general as far as making it more professional. League just hasnt needed that as much because Riot is so heavily involved. Plus I was a league hater for a very very long time. If he takes the time sometime to watch some doublelift clips or Dade's Zed he'd understand better. It's not his game, why worry about it? Game wars always have and always will exist.
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On August 07 2013 12:38 Fionn wrote:
I respect TB's opinion, but I don't think TI3 will surpass League. I think Valve would need to keep their promise of setting up some sort of league structure or helping teams be more stable. As it is now, it feels like there is 44 weeks of small tournaments and prize pools, then a month of gigantic hype and an out of this world prize pool. While it's awesome a team is going to walk away with over a million fucking dollars, The International is a standalone event. There is no league or feeder system that leads into it.
While I think Dota2 could surpass SC2 in Korea depending on how Nexon markets it, I see no way it touches League of Legends in Korea.
Korean fans of LoL have been increasingly disgruntled over the past few months. The Nexon starter league had a massive response. Nexon is marketing the game very well in korea. Its definitely possible for dota 2 to surpass LoL in korea if riot makes a misstep over the next year or series of snubs to korea.
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If C9 is the only team that can at all do well at worlds, I would expect everyone to get on the new hype train. That's the whole reason why people liked CLG, and then TSM. People like winners.
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Dota2 will never compete with LoL for weekly viewers without an LCS type league setup. Even then its very doubtful they would hold even have of LoLs ratings.
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It's Nexon and GOM, though. I really doubt that's going to go anywhere big, lol.
Honestly, based on everyone I've talked to, non-Koreans really underestimate how much being with GOM hamstrings DotA 2's viewership potential in Korea.
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I'm already on the C9 hype train. But I'm still pulling for TSM and CLG.
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On August 07 2013 11:25 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 11:03 ticklishmusic wrote:
As of right now, League has 65K viewers on Twitch. DOTA2 has 5K.
I'm expecting concurrent viewers for S3 finals to hit 2 million. Ok, come on, right now is a really shitty time to be doing that comparison because all the major teams are in Seattle and none of the major streamers are even streaming right now.
I know nothing about DOTA. I don't even pay attention/ go to the TL mainpage, I have a direct link to the TL LOL subforum cuz' I'm a patriot.
Also, TrolltalBiscuit.
I was never a huge fanof him (I was hardcore Day9 with a litte Tastosis/ Husky for shotucasting on the side), but yeah he's done a good bit for eSports. Still, if we found a non-terribad caster with a British accent he'd be out of a job. ;P
It's OK, competitive mapstestory will take off soon. Now if only they would reduce my 1000 year ban from SEA...
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I don't really care who has more fans, I just play and watch whatever I think is interesting, really tired of these "my game is better than yours" crap that tends to invade SC2/DotA/LoL threads.
Pancakes and fish puns are much more substantial than that.
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On August 07 2013 12:42 TheYango wrote:
It's Nexon and GOM, though. I really doubt that's going to go anywhere big, lol.
I got my blizzard account hacked through GOM player. Fuck that shit. But I did get a free blizzard authenticator out of it. Also the guy looted my WoW account, but then played my fucking decked out Mage. Got me multiple achievements lol.
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On August 07 2013 12:42 TheYango wrote:
It's Nexon and GOM, though. I really doubt that's going to go anywhere big, lol.
sc2 never made it onto OGN either right yango? just because something got started on GOM, doesn't mean its going to be shut out of OGN.
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On August 07 2013 12:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
If C9 is the only team that can at all do well at worlds, I would expect everyone to get on the new hype train. That's the whole reason why people liked CLG, and then TSM. People like winners.
Hey, I like Curse. Your point? Losers are cool too.
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On August 07 2013 12:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 12:35 canikizu wrote:On August 07 2013 12:08 TheYango wrote:
Welp, apparently All-Stars peaked at 18 million concurrent viewers, and there's absolutely no way S3 WC isn't beating All-Stars, so yeah, I have to eat crow already.
EDIT: Oh wait, the figure was 18 million unique viewers, it just got mis-quoted as concurrent. Stupid online media outlets get your facts straight. Allstar concurrent viewer count was only around 200k, although the fxo coach only gathered number from 3 sources, he didn't count random sources like youtube or azubu and stuff. That was only for twitch... Korea and China alone probably had 500k+ each. I'm pretty sure I heard 1 million concurrent viewers if you include chinese and korean streams (maybe including television or not).
It's not an official number or peak number, it's a number that was gathered by the fxo coach in na vs ch game i think, or was it the first 1v1 game.
Allstar was a fun time.
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On August 07 2013 12:44 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 12:42 TheYango wrote:
It's Nexon and GOM, though. I really doubt that's going to go anywhere big, lol. sc2 never made it onto OGN either right yango? just because something got started on GOM, doesn't mean its going to be shut out of OGN.
That would required OGN to drop a game to fit it into their schedule. Which is unlikely, at least in the foreseeable future.
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On August 07 2013 12:14 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 12:11 gtrsrs wrote:On August 07 2013 12:09 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 07 2013 11:58 UniversalSnip wrote:
If you're serious, can you break down exactly what you mean by those last two sentences? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the combination of them. Its pretty cynical, but i have little respect for riot left. essentially the more people that follow the pro scene, the more people will follow the pro scene. pros don't play new champs until after that champ has a free week. Pros also have a very limited champion pool (at least as of right now). If people are influence by pro players as we know they are, then riot stands to make less money off of people who don't know better, and who purchase RP to get the new champs before they see how they are played, and who purchase skins and stuff for things like darius/pre rework yi, who aren't common or used at all in pro play. Arguably, riot being financially accountable for the shambles of the pro meta would probably improve the pro scene quite a bit though. so i read this multiple times trying to wrap my head around it but instead of gleaning any meaning i got a canker sore instead thanks obama People follow pro players. more people following pro players = less people being ignorant of the pro scene. Pro players don't play new champs for weeks = people don't have as much interest in new champs for weeks. Less interest = declining RP sales based on new champ buys. This goes doubly for older champs not used in pro scene at all.
i guess what i'm asking is, what is your point
i think you're trying to say that riot is intentionally sandbagging the LCS, but again, you're not being very clear at all
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