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Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 07 2013 03:47 GMT
#2921
http://www.polygon.com/2012/10/23/3542424/league-of-legends-final-attracts-8-2-million-viewers-season-2

According to that website S2 WC had approx double the ratings of the TI2. With reports that 1.1 million concurrent online viewers tuned in at its peak although the other sites reported 18 million veiwers and not 8.2 million so idk these numbers are all over the place.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 07 2013 03:48 GMT
#2922
On August 07 2013 12:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
If C9 is the only team that can at all do well at worlds, I would expect everyone to get on the new hype train. That's the whole reason why people liked CLG, and then TSM. People like winners.

It's different right now though. CLG and TSM have been relevant since... forever. Even if they don't do well they'll probably have bigger fanbases for a long time. They also stream a lot more, although CLG has slowed down and I think that's gonna hurt them in the long run.

C9 has a growing fanbase right now but it's still behind TSM and CLG.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2013 03:48 GMT
#2923
18 million unique viewers was the All-Stars figure.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#2924
On August 07 2013 12:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 12:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 07 2013 12:42 TheYango wrote:
It's Nexon and GOM, though. I really doubt that's going to go anywhere big, lol.

sc2 never made it onto OGN either right yango? just because something got started on GOM, doesn't mean its going to be shut out of OGN.

That would required OGN to drop a game to fit it into their schedule. Which is unlikely, at least in the foreseeable future.

I don't think it'll happen in 2013 for sure. but if riot jumps the shark with season 4... The response to dota 2 in korea has been fantastic though. even if the response to GOM has not.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2013 03:50 GMT
#2925
Xizor you're overestimating the response to DotA 2 in Korea, probably based on what media we're getting over here.

Most people who I've talked to who are in Korea or were in Korea recently and paid attention to it described the response to DotA 2 as being somewhat lackluster.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 03:52:09
August 07 2013 03:51 GMT
#2926
On August 07 2013 12:50 TheYango wrote:
Xizor you're overestimating the response to DotA 2 in Korea, probably based on what media we're getting over here.

Most people who I've talked to who are in Korea or were in Korea recently and paid attention to it described the response to DotA 2 as being somewhat lackluster.

Have we actually got some numbers besides "hey, look at this picture of people lining up outside the tiny, tiny gom studio!"?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 03:55:15
August 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#2927
On August 07 2013 12:50 TheYango wrote:
Xizor you're overestimating the response to DotA 2 in Korea, probably based on what media we're getting over here.

Most people who I've talked to who are in Korea or were in Korea recently and paid attention to it described the response to DotA 2 as being somewhat lackluster.

I've heard the opposite from people i've talked to from Seoul.

On August 07 2013 12:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Have we actually got some numbers besides "hey, look at this picture of people lining up outside the tiny, tiny gom studio!"?

I think it was like 400-600 people turned away every day from the GOM studio due to building limits. and some obscene number of teams, i think 800? dota 2 teams registered for the starter league. The actual nexon leagues won't start until post TI3 so we don't have much information on that.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 07 2013 03:52 GMT
#2928
Oh my bad I mixed them up. So 8.2 million for season 2 finals still crushed TI2 and S3 allstars hit 18 million. What has TI3 hit so far in terms of viewers?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 03:55:13
August 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#2929
I actually watched some promotional tournament they had for GOM Dota and it was years behind what you are even seeing in the defense, let alone the international.

again though, currently the vast majority of Dota content is online content, I don't even think what TB said would be that big of a stretch if it wasn't online vs lan

I don't know how people can intentionally watch online over lan.
Carrilord has arrived.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 07 2013 03:53 GMT
#2930
On August 07 2013 12:52 Ghost-z wrote:
Oh my bad I mixed them up. So 8.2 million for season 2 finals still crushed TI2 and S3 allstars hit 18 million. What has TI3 hit so far in terms of viewers?

The numbers for TI3 don't mean much right now unless we compare them to last year's TI2. Having 4 streams with different games on and counting the in game numbers as well gives a very inaccurate unique viewer count. The only number that'll really matter is the viewer count for the grand finals.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#2931
Either way, I welcome our korean overlords into dota2.
liftlift > tsm
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
August 07 2013 03:56 GMT
#2932
You guys know right that Korean people have a diverse set of opinions just like the rest of the world.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2013 03:57 GMT
#2933
On August 07 2013 12:52 Ghost-z wrote:
Oh my bad I mixed them up. So 8.2 million for season 2 finals still crushed TI2 and S3 allstars hit 18 million. What has TI3 hit so far in terms of viewers?

There haven't been any official numbers, the rough count based on stream viewership was ~500k concurrent in the prelims last week, not counting TV viewership in various places across the world (China, Sweden, etc.). "Unique viewer" counts are going to be wild guesses, but I'd say something in the ballpark of ~5 million is reasonable, given that the "Unique users last month" count on the DotA 2 website spiked by about 1.5 million in the last week, and that represents the number of players who watched the game in-client and did not play a game of DotA 2 in the last month. Counting stream views and active in-client players, 5+ million for prelims seems reasonable.

I expect the number to rise drastically during the main event because the prelims were not heavily hyped the way the main event is. It won't match S3 WC, but it won't be outdone by a factor of 10.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 07 2013 03:58 GMT
#2934
Again, Dota2 won't overtake LoL until Valve creates some sort of league or has other major titles throughout the year. You can't just have a ton of $5,000~15,000 tournaments and then BAM --- TIME FOR A GORILLIAN DOLLAR TOURNAMENT! Players can't sustain themselves.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 07 2013 03:58 GMT
#2935
On August 07 2013 12:30 Ghost-z wrote:
Well TotalBiscuit is definitly lurking on our thread right now.

"Hahaha, TL LoL thread is buttmad as hell. This is the best superpower"

From his twitter.

Still brought less posts than fish puns or Katawa Shoujo. Pretty weak imoimo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 07 2013 03:59 GMT
#2936
On August 07 2013 12:58 Fionn wrote:
Again, Dota2 won't overtake LoL until Valve creates some sort of league or has other major titles throughout the year. You can't just have a ton of $5,000~15,000 tournaments and then BAM --- TIME FOR A GORILLIAN DOLLAR TOURNAMENT! Players can't sustain themselves.

Valve is working to fix this with more fan to player interaction. i don't think you need a valve league to succeed though. thats just lol experience being projected on a completely different scene.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 04:01:47
August 07 2013 04:01 GMT
#2937
On August 07 2013 12:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 12:52 Ghost-z wrote:
Oh my bad I mixed them up. So 8.2 million for season 2 finals still crushed TI2 and S3 allstars hit 18 million. What has TI3 hit so far in terms of viewers?

The numbers for TI3 don't mean much right now unless we compare them to last year's TI2. Having 4 streams with different games on and counting the in game numbers as well gives a very inaccurate unique viewer count. The only number that'll really matter is the viewer count for the grand finals.

The most meaningful number we have right now is the ~1.5 million user spike in players who played DotA 2 in the last month over those few days, because the overwhelming majority of those users could only have logged in to watch TI3. Which means we have ~1.5 million as "players who watched TI3 in-client but have not otherwise played DotA 2 in the last month", and extrapolate the total viewer count from that.

On August 07 2013 12:58 Fionn wrote:
Again, Dota2 won't overtake LoL until Valve creates some sort of league or has other major titles throughout the year. You can't just have a ton of $5,000~15,000 tournaments and then BAM --- TIME FOR A GORILLIAN DOLLAR TOURNAMENT! Players can't sustain themselves.

It won't overtake LoL until LoL is on the decline. Irrespective of anything about the two games, DotA 2 just missed its shot to be on top.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 07 2013 04:03 GMT
#2938
I mean it's hard to really get an idea, I for instance had at least 3 of the streams open pretty much all weekend, even when I left the house.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2013 04:04 GMT
#2939
On August 07 2013 12:53 Slusher wrote:
I don't know how people can intentionally watch online over lan.

I would actually say Riot is partially to blame for the lack of LAN tournaments in DotA. First because of their exclusivity agreements with ESL/MLG/IPL/etc., and even when those lapsed, the organizers of those tournaments had the expectation leftover from Riot that Valve would pay them to run the tournament.

Consequently, of those only ESL is running DotA 2 events right now, though MLG has been doing their stupid hype bullshit they always do for months now.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 07 2013 04:06 GMT
#2940
you'd have to wait for valve to release uniques, or better yet, peak unique concurrents. concurrent is somewhat blurry because prelims had so many matches going on at any given time.
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