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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
August 05 2013 18:26 GMT
#2301
On August 06 2013 03:19 lefty wrote:
Group matches being BO1 mean NA teams might have a chance afterall.


it's b02 like ogn groupstage with 2 wins=3 points probaly 1-1=1 point and lose =0
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
August 05 2013 18:33 GMT
#2302
Since we were talking about Hydra and whatnot earlier, I was watching Meteos' stream sometime within the last month and he said you can use hydra during K6's jump.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 05 2013 18:34 GMT
#2303
On August 06 2013 02:39 KarlKaliente wrote:
Show nested quote +


As a newer player I'm curious how many other people deal with the pain of having only 2 rune pages and having to pick between cool heroes or having a functional early game.


Cold hard cash is typically the answer. But I'm a filthy casual so I just buy fun heroes


I mean it depends on how you feel about spending cash on a game you can optionally play for free, but if you do the math based on a 975 champion, the rune page bundle gives you about 4x the ip worth that you normally get.

tl;dr if you are ok with the idea of buying RP, the rune page bundle is the best possible deal in the store, cheaper even than on sale champions.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 05 2013 18:34 GMT
#2304
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 05 2013 18:35 GMT
#2305
On August 06 2013 03:34 Ghost-z wrote:
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?


unless you have an overwhelming pick advantage bot, exhaust/heal have the potential to straight up win the lane via allin
Carrilord has arrived.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 18:38:17
August 05 2013 18:37 GMT
#2306
bo2 group stages are so good, then later in the tournament one side can get choice of their side more often because of seed rather than gamelength. Gamelength is a bit silly.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 05 2013 18:38 GMT
#2307
On August 06 2013 03:33 Gahlo wrote:
Since we were talking about Hydra and whatnot earlier, I was watching Meteos' stream sometime within the last month and he said you can use hydra during K6's jump.

How does that work then? Does it do the damage at the landing location or at the point you hit it midair?
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 05 2013 18:40 GMT
#2308
Hey they actually let me refund Junkyard Trundle~

Now I'm just gonna save up my RP to buy the new S3 WC skin to pretend that I went again. *cough*
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 05 2013 18:41 GMT
#2309
On August 06 2013 03:19 lefty wrote:
Group matches being BO1 mean NA teams might have a chance afterall.


Didnt help them much last time. At least 1 team makes it through automatically...
Jaedong :3
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 05 2013 18:42 GMT
#2310
On August 06 2013 03:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Hey they actually let me refund Junkyard Trundle~

Now I'm just gonna save up my RP to buy the new S3 WC skin to pretend that I went again. *cough*

Considering how long it took for the TPA skins to come out, you'll likely spend it anyway and need to buy some more by that point. I don't think I can hold on to any amount of RP for that amount of time >.>
It's your boy Guzma!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 05 2013 18:45 GMT
#2311
I think he means Championship Riven.
Freeeeeeedom
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 05 2013 18:51 GMT
#2312
On August 06 2013 03:45 cLutZ wrote:
I think he means Championship Riven.

Indeed! I got to go to S2 Worlds, so I got that one for free :3

I hope this one is as good though, I'm super pumped~
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#2313
On August 06 2013 03:34 Ghost-z wrote:
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?


You're giving away a great deal of power by not having an offensive summoner like ignite or exhaust.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
August 05 2013 19:02 GMT
#2314
On August 06 2013 03:38 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 03:33 Gahlo wrote:
Since we were talking about Hydra and whatnot earlier, I was watching Meteos' stream sometime within the last month and he said you can use hydra during K6's jump.

How does that work then? Does it do the damage at the landing location or at the point you hit it midair?

I have no clue, I had the stream in the background while I was doing something else.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
August 05 2013 19:02 GMT
#2315
On August 05 2013 18:37 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 18:10 MattBarry wrote:
Morgana support is some op shit. I wonder if they rework her W to be a support skills, gut her ratios and make her a support. That spell shield is so fucking useful


She is really underrated, especially vs wombo combo teams. I play Morgana support vs leona and laugh all the way to a won lane. Also ruins an Ashe.

I just realised her q is insane as well. Great base damage, insane ratio and gargantuan root time. God I wished she saw more play. She like never loses lane, even if she can't win it.

Hell I run Morg jungle in normal games.

I wonder why no lcs team tries support Morgana against all that Ashe/Zyra shit. Cockblock the initiations errytime with pro reflexes
Platinum Support GOD
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 19:16:41
August 05 2013 19:10 GMT
#2316
Hmmmmmmmm.

I have these AS/armour/MR/armour and AS/armour/MR/MR pages, and I'm thinking that I haven't used them in awhile. Even on Irelia, I use the exact same but with AD for easier last-hitting. That's what I was using at some point during s2 in "hard" lanes, but since then her sustain was halved itemisation nerfed too, new, stronger champions came out, and people have generally been more aggressive at early levels, when Hiten isn't all that strong.

Not sure if it'd be worth it to use 2 pages for hard match-ups for a single champ (and I play her less than Jax). I may keep the armour one because I use armour quints on Naut rather than MS (helps with keeping his shield up and thus clearing faster/more safely) but I wonder if AS marks are the prefered ones for a lot of off-lane champions? Or if an Irelia player here can assure me that they're strictly superior to AD and I should keep it, but I wasn't under that impression.


Gonna try a second support rune page with Spellsy's MR/armour/scaling mp5/gp10 too. I wonder if the mp5 will change much but I'll see once in game.

(Also Diana + 2x 1350 champs (including Teemo, after so long), MR marks and scaling mp5 glyphs is super expensive. >>)

On August 06 2013 03:33 Gahlo wrote:
Since we were talking about Hydra and whatnot earlier, I was watching Meteos' stream sometime within the last month and he said you can use hydra during K6's jump.

Technically he can do pretty much anything during his jump (like Tristana), his W was specifically blocked.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 19:18:07
August 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#2317
On August 06 2013 03:35 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 03:34 Ghost-z wrote:
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?


unless you have an overwhelming pick advantage bot, exhaust/heal have the potential to straight up win the lane via allin

I was thinking more about AFTER the laning phase where the support is running around with just Boots5+RSS. If you could get away with using CV instead of buying extra wards the money you save could go into one of those support items.

Can you imagine a scenario where CV+Locket is better than 20 wards? (cost varies). I can definitely see this coming into flavor if the 2v1 meta stalls out with Riots new changes. It would lengthen the laning phase allowing more time for supports to accrue gold before vision becomes invaluable. The challenge is: can you delay wards until your support item is completed? This is where I think CV might come back into play to reduce the advantage in wards your opposing support has.

If the enemy team fails to capitalize on their vision advantage before you complete your (insert support item here) then your support will hold a slight advantage over the remainder of the game. Extending the laning phase brings this style of play closer to viable which is why I think its more effective in soloQ where RSS is more than enough wards to guard your own lane.

My other thought on support items is to make them slightly more cost-efficient AND slightly less slot-efficient. That way supports will not sacrifice as many wards in order to help the team with auras.

edit- You don't have to forgo extra wards completely until you finish aegis for example. Just skimp on wards while you piecemeal an item together. Sprinkle in a pink or two.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#2318
On August 06 2013 03:52 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 03:34 Ghost-z wrote:
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?


You're giving away a great deal of power by not having an offensive summoner like ignite or exhaust.

But so does almost every ADC in the current meta when they take barrier.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 05 2013 19:19 GMT
#2319
Barrier is a lot of offensive power as well wtf.It reduces kill potential on supp but it allows you to go in super safely.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 05 2013 19:24 GMT
#2320
On August 06 2013 04:15 Ghost-z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 03:52 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 06 2013 03:34 Ghost-z wrote:
With vision being the #1 priority for every support in the current meta is there any reason why clairvoyance isn't about to become standard on supports again?


You're giving away a great deal of power by not having an offensive summoner like ignite or exhaust.

But so does almost every ADC in the current meta when they take barrier.

Barrier, Exhaust, Ignite all have combat applications offensively and defensively. CV gives you valuable intel, but nothing once the rumbling actually starts, and so loses out pretty hard.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
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