[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 115

On August 06 2013 01:59 Sponkz wrote:



This makes so much sense, except it can't be a standard thing in solo queue. Sometimes 1st drake doesn't even happen before the 15 minute mark.

On August 06 2013 02:14 Gahlo wrote:

I'm speaking in general, not being trying to condescend to you.

On August 05 2013 15:16 I_Love_Bacon wrote:


Hardcore truth up in here.

Only a sith deal in absolutes, yo.

On August 06 2013 02:25 Gahlo wrote:

I was more referencing myself, but okay.

On August 06 2013 02:28 Requizen wrote:

Maybe that's why we're both in Silver~

*saddest brofist you've ever seen*

As a newer player I'm curious how many other people deal with the pain of having only 2 rune pages and having to pick between cool heroes or having a functional early game.

On August 06 2013 02:36 Haiq343 wrote:

Brofists are the definition awesome.

As a newer player I'm curious how many other people deal with the pain of having only 2 rune pages and having to pick between cool heroes or having a functional early game.

On August 06 2013 02:33 Myrick wrote:
Does anyone know when the 3.10 patch will be implemented for LCS? I'm interested to see how they handle the supposed "death of the 1v2."

On August 06 2013 02:36 Haiq343 wrote:

Brofists are the definition awesome.

As a newer player I'm curious how many other people deal with the pain of having only 2 rune pages and having to pick between cool heroes or having a functional early game.

On August 06 2013 02:19 Clinic wrote:


true, and it was bad of me to not consider this. so i'll correct myself to simply 'in order to establish vision control'. to speak more generally, vision control is the absolute priority of the support. if the support is purchasing items unrelated to vision after the core of ruby sightstone and mobility boots, then at least one of three things is probably happening:

1) the support's team is very far ahead in gold
2) the support's team does not have vision control
3) somebody else on the support's team has taken the oracles burden, or nobody is buying oracles. this is either bad for the person buying oracles or for everyone

you see supports in soloq building items like shurelia's and locket, but this is a playstyle strictly dominated by a support dedicated to vision (i believe this holds true even in soloq, but i can see why many would disagree). the reason why nonoptimal support play is prevalent in soloq is because since most people play that way, the disadvantages end up washing out. as for why nonvision items are being built at all, i believe that such play is considered more fun and is a particularly durable relic of previous metas

more respected posters than i have repeatedly brought up the issue of support itemization being more practical on nonsupports, largely due to timing reasons, and i agree with this. this is why briefly popular supports such as elise fell out of favor in the current meta, with the new oracles being a big factor - now that wards are so easy to clear, any support that needs to invest in items like a haunting guise to be relevant in fights is not going to be able to buy enough wards to keep up.

i don't know if this was the intended design direction, but with oracles as it is now, the best supports are going to be building mobis + ruby sightstone and nothing else for the foreseeable future

realized i droned on about support itemization without linking it back to why non gold runes are better - all a support needs to buy after early game are wards and oracles. gold runes don't really provide an appreciable benefit in this regard, since the real limiting factor here is that the support has enough gold to rebuy oracles when it runs out, which will always be the case regardless of runes. gold runes are also clearly inferior in the early game except in fringe cases of accelerating build timings by tiny margins

On August 06 2013 02:43 AsnSensation wrote:


1. AP Quints/MP Reds/Armor Yellows/scaling/flat Mr blues
2. Ad Quints/AD Reds/Armor Yellows/scaling/flat Mr blues

with those 2 pages alone you can carry yourself all the way to diamond, at least what I did on my smurf. The next best investments are probably another runepage first and then MS quints and lifesteal quints if you decide to main marksman.