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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 15:54 GMT
#941
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit:

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 15:59:33
July 12 2013 15:59 GMT
#942
On July 13 2013 00:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit: https://twitter.com/RiotDeman/status/355621912740765697

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.

It will make the process of getting one if you're a player from China/any other "developing" country significantly easier.

Also Shiphtur pls.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#943
Can a champion like Kog'maw ever be designed again? Referring to his passive here, which is kinda out of place on an ADC. I love him just for that though.
cool beans
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
July 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#944
Been trying dorans blade start in the jungle with lee/udyr/xin, it's pretty strong. Never losing hp in jungle is nice. I usually get 2 lifesteal quints and go 9/9/12. The transition to going golem spirit stone and full tank is really smooth too.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
July 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#945
judging by the comparison to NFL etc, the visa extension was for P1-As, which really is big news since the criteria include that the LCS is recognized as a 'major sports league'. see more at the uscis page
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 16:27:52
July 12 2013 16:27 GMT
#946
nvm
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
July 12 2013 16:30 GMT
#947
On July 13 2013 00:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 00:48 Ketara wrote:
Yeah Spellbreaker is gonna be pretty ridic. I wants it on mid Quinn.

I heard they were making it melee only though, anybody have confirmation on that?


In other news, I find it hilarious how many bans are junglers. Nobody likes junglers.

Typical bans are like Blitz+Thresh, maybe Shen, and then 3-4 of your least liked junglers.


Well it's unfeasible to ban all the really strong champs, so your best bet is just to remove the most annoying ganks from the game.

Also I feel like in solo q its just about removing the champs with the easiest initiations. When the matches aren't as coordinated, having a Malphite/Hec ult is a pretty good signal for everyone to go in, and if the jungler is decent, it's usually a good call.

Also, Nunu is just dumb right now lol T_T
@DreamingBird
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 16:33 GMT
#948
On July 13 2013 00:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 00:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit: https://twitter.com/RiotDeman/status/355621912740765697

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.

It will make the process of getting one if you're a player from China/any other "developing" country significantly easier.

Also Shiphtur pls.

Wonder if EU guys will get a similar treatment since just traveling within Europe to different countries can be such a pain sometimes.

Riot may have cut down on international tournaments, but this will sure make any future ones easier on the players.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 12 2013 16:40 GMT
#949
Bought the velocity icon and considering the C9 icon
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 12 2013 16:41 GMT
#950
On July 13 2013 01:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 00:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 13 2013 00:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit: https://twitter.com/RiotDeman/status/355621912740765697

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.

It will make the process of getting one if you're a player from China/any other "developing" country significantly easier.

Also Shiphtur pls.

Wonder if EU guys will get a similar treatment since just traveling within Europe to different countries can be such a pain sometimes.

Riot may have cut down on international tournaments, but this will sure make any future ones easier on the players.

It's very easy to travel in all Europe if you're European yourself. I can imagine it can be complicated for other countries though (Gambit for example).
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 16:43:19
July 12 2013 16:43 GMT
#951
Game is quite a bit more enjoyable since I gave up jungling. Being the magnet for shitter's rage is grating.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 16:43 GMT
#952
On July 13 2013 01:41 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 01:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 00:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 13 2013 00:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit: https://twitter.com/RiotDeman/status/355621912740765697

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.

It will make the process of getting one if you're a player from China/any other "developing" country significantly easier.

Also Shiphtur pls.

Wonder if EU guys will get a similar treatment since just traveling within Europe to different countries can be such a pain sometimes.

Riot may have cut down on international tournaments, but this will sure make any future ones easier on the players.

It's very easy to travel in all Europe if you're European yourself. I can imagine it can be complicated for other countries though (Gambit for example).

Oh yeah, I lied, I guess Moscow was the trip several players were complaining about.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
July 12 2013 16:45 GMT
#953
On July 13 2013 01:43 Requizen wrote:
Game is quite a bit more enjoyable since I gave up jungling. Being the magnet for shitter's rage is grating.

I agree with this so much. I never understand why it becomes my fault that you lost lane without their jungler showing up. It's not like I have a permanent tp up to just go places.

I guess that's one of the nice things about playing support, no one seems to notice your presence and just blames the adc (even if you made the play mistake).
@DreamingBird
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 16:53:35
July 12 2013 16:51 GMT
#954
On July 13 2013 01:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 00:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 13 2013 00:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:26 Gahlo wrote:
The US guberment says has decided that LCS(as an esport) is legit: https://twitter.com/RiotDeman/status/355621912740765697

Oh wow, that's pretty legit.

It will make the process of getting one if you're a player from China/any other "developing" country significantly easier.

Also Shiphtur pls.

Wonder if EU guys will get a similar treatment since just traveling within Europe to different countries can be such a pain sometimes.

Riot may have cut down on international tournaments, but this will sure make any future ones easier on the players.



?? Eu citizens can even decide to reside in any other Eu country.
And outsiders only need 1 visa for all of Eu (except UK, who is in the Eu, but has all kinds of special treatments



oh im late:D
BallOOnz
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada23 Posts
July 12 2013 16:57 GMT
#955
On July 13 2013 01:14 komokun wrote:
Been trying dorans blade start in the jungle with lee/udyr/xin, it's pretty strong. Never losing hp in jungle is nice. I usually get 2 lifesteal quints and go 9/9/12. The transition to going golem spirit stone and full tank is really smooth too.

I have also been doing this on shaco, with varying results. Though i have'nt ran it with lifesteal quints either. But it makes those first 3 ganks very scary. However if u don't get any kills u get so far behind, more then usual on shaco
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 12 2013 16:59 GMT
#956
On July 12 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 15:18 Vei wrote:
So me and a friend are trying out Vayne Nami in duo queue, I'm the Nami and I'm quite new to her (10~ games). Anyone have general advice/tips/tricks? I'm reallllly seeing the potential in her ult for "cutting people off" and either hitting them or forcing them to path a certain way that favors your team/adc to get more damage in. The Q skillshot... I'm definitely getting better with practice, and I'm sure it's hard to offer that much advice on how to land a skillshot, but if there's like.. certain situations where it's important to know who to Q and it may not be obvious? I could use some info on that.

Mostly though I'm a little bit curious, under what circumstances/enemy picks should I really not want to choose Nami against?

p.s. urgot + nami does not seem to be a good combination, or at least not vs pre-patch draven

Q max is solid; even in passive lane; the strong Q stun pretty much outstuns anything ran in botlane; so they're essentially forced to play safe or fucking eat giant shit from your Q and Vayne condem.

The biggest support I hate playing against is Janna; she forces a really passive lane; she's the only one that shuts down nami's offensive potential.

The circle doesn't get any bigger, and the stun doesn't last any longer when you max it. Why would you max Q on Nami instead of E (scaling slow) or W (stronger heal/more reliable poke than Q)
Platinum Support GOD
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 17:03 GMT
#957
On July 13 2013 01:59 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:18 Vei wrote:
So me and a friend are trying out Vayne Nami in duo queue, I'm the Nami and I'm quite new to her (10~ games). Anyone have general advice/tips/tricks? I'm reallllly seeing the potential in her ult for "cutting people off" and either hitting them or forcing them to path a certain way that favors your team/adc to get more damage in. The Q skillshot... I'm definitely getting better with practice, and I'm sure it's hard to offer that much advice on how to land a skillshot, but if there's like.. certain situations where it's important to know who to Q and it may not be obvious? I could use some info on that.

Mostly though I'm a little bit curious, under what circumstances/enemy picks should I really not want to choose Nami against?

p.s. urgot + nami does not seem to be a good combination, or at least not vs pre-patch draven

Q max is solid; even in passive lane; the strong Q stun pretty much outstuns anything ran in botlane; so they're essentially forced to play safe or fucking eat giant shit from your Q and Vayne condem.

The biggest support I hate playing against is Janna; she forces a really passive lane; she's the only one that shuts down nami's offensive potential.

The circle doesn't get any bigger, and the stun doesn't last any longer when you max it. Why would you max Q on Nami instead of E (scaling slow) or W (stronger heal/more reliable poke than Q)

Q max is nice mid game, especially during Dragon fights when the CD gets low enough you can hit two important bubbles in a single fight. I can get behind E max, but I would almost never max W (mana cost too high for unreliable bounces)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 12 2013 17:07 GMT
#958
On July 13 2013 02:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 01:59 MattBarry wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:18 Vei wrote:
So me and a friend are trying out Vayne Nami in duo queue, I'm the Nami and I'm quite new to her (10~ games). Anyone have general advice/tips/tricks? I'm reallllly seeing the potential in her ult for "cutting people off" and either hitting them or forcing them to path a certain way that favors your team/adc to get more damage in. The Q skillshot... I'm definitely getting better with practice, and I'm sure it's hard to offer that much advice on how to land a skillshot, but if there's like.. certain situations where it's important to know who to Q and it may not be obvious? I could use some info on that.

Mostly though I'm a little bit curious, under what circumstances/enemy picks should I really not want to choose Nami against?

p.s. urgot + nami does not seem to be a good combination, or at least not vs pre-patch draven

Q max is solid; even in passive lane; the strong Q stun pretty much outstuns anything ran in botlane; so they're essentially forced to play safe or fucking eat giant shit from your Q and Vayne condem.

The biggest support I hate playing against is Janna; she forces a really passive lane; she's the only one that shuts down nami's offensive potential.

The circle doesn't get any bigger, and the stun doesn't last any longer when you max it. Why would you max Q on Nami instead of E (scaling slow) or W (stronger heal/more reliable poke than Q)

Q max is nice mid game, especially during Dragon fights when the CD gets low enough you can hit two important bubbles in a single fight. I can get behind E max, but I would almost never max W (mana cost too high for unreliable bounces)

You won't run out of mana with W max if you build philo
Platinum Support GOD
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 17:09:31
July 12 2013 17:08 GMT
#959
On July 13 2013 01:59 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:18 Vei wrote:
So me and a friend are trying out Vayne Nami in duo queue, I'm the Nami and I'm quite new to her (10~ games). Anyone have general advice/tips/tricks? I'm reallllly seeing the potential in her ult for "cutting people off" and either hitting them or forcing them to path a certain way that favors your team/adc to get more damage in. The Q skillshot... I'm definitely getting better with practice, and I'm sure it's hard to offer that much advice on how to land a skillshot, but if there's like.. certain situations where it's important to know who to Q and it may not be obvious? I could use some info on that.

Mostly though I'm a little bit curious, under what circumstances/enemy picks should I really not want to choose Nami against?

p.s. urgot + nami does not seem to be a good combination, or at least not vs pre-patch draven

Q max is solid; even in passive lane; the strong Q stun pretty much outstuns anything ran in botlane; so they're essentially forced to play safe or fucking eat giant shit from your Q and Vayne condem.

The biggest support I hate playing against is Janna; she forces a really passive lane; she's the only one that shuts down nami's offensive potential.

The circle doesn't get any bigger, and the stun doesn't last any longer when you max it. Why would you max Q on Nami instead of E (scaling slow) or W (stronger heal/more reliable poke than Q)

The CD goes down (the other 2 skills have flat CDs), the mana cost stays the same (the other 2 spells have increasing CDs), and the damage per rank is exceptionally good for a support nuke.

The idea that leveling W gives you better poke compared to Q is totally laughable, particularly early game where you would be heavily hamstrung by the high mana cost of W if you actually used it like that.

On July 13 2013 02:07 MattBarry wrote:
You won't run out of mana with W max if you build philo

So if I make shitty item choices I can make shitty skill orders less shitty? Hooray!
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 17:11 GMT
#960
On July 13 2013 02:07 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 02:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 01:59 MattBarry wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 12 2013 15:18 Vei wrote:
So me and a friend are trying out Vayne Nami in duo queue, I'm the Nami and I'm quite new to her (10~ games). Anyone have general advice/tips/tricks? I'm reallllly seeing the potential in her ult for "cutting people off" and either hitting them or forcing them to path a certain way that favors your team/adc to get more damage in. The Q skillshot... I'm definitely getting better with practice, and I'm sure it's hard to offer that much advice on how to land a skillshot, but if there's like.. certain situations where it's important to know who to Q and it may not be obvious? I could use some info on that.

Mostly though I'm a little bit curious, under what circumstances/enemy picks should I really not want to choose Nami against?

p.s. urgot + nami does not seem to be a good combination, or at least not vs pre-patch draven

Q max is solid; even in passive lane; the strong Q stun pretty much outstuns anything ran in botlane; so they're essentially forced to play safe or fucking eat giant shit from your Q and Vayne condem.

The biggest support I hate playing against is Janna; she forces a really passive lane; she's the only one that shuts down nami's offensive potential.

The circle doesn't get any bigger, and the stun doesn't last any longer when you max it. Why would you max Q on Nami instead of E (scaling slow) or W (stronger heal/more reliable poke than Q)

Q max is nice mid game, especially during Dragon fights when the CD gets low enough you can hit two important bubbles in a single fight. I can get behind E max, but I would almost never max W (mana cost too high for unreliable bounces)

You won't run out of mana with W max if you build philo

Too bad I don't like buying Philo anymore I guess if Q max is out of the question I'd rather just max E.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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