• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:11
CEST 08:11
KST 15:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors4Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event10Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches>
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Can Diabetes Be Reversed or Cured Permanently? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 986 users

[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 339 Next
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#6301
Yeah go for it! I've never been much for 3v3's but it's mainly because I feel like I don't know anything about how it's supposed to be played, so a solid 3v3 guide would be great.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 29 2013 06:47 GMT
#6302
jesus, Rengar is a disgusting champ.

Honestly the only thing worth preserving is the bush jumping mechanic, the rest of his kit is not fascinating and just leads to stupid assassination with no counterplay. Also the stupid Q disable bug happens like twice a game
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
July 29 2013 08:11 GMT
#6303
On July 29 2013 14:55 Dusty wrote:
So I hit challenger in 3v3s for the 3rd time tonight. Would other Liquidians be interested in reading a 3v3 guide explaining stuff?


Yes, absolutely! One particular thing I'd be interested in is to know whether it is viable to run a "full time jungler" (and whether to take smite). Last time I checked on EUWest, most challenger teams seem not to run junglers, but some do. Back when me and my friends played (we're terrible though) we always send one to the jungle, with mixed results.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
July 29 2013 08:12 GMT
#6304
Well, I finally managed to get out of fucking Bronze 1... It only took like 5 Bo5, where I systematically get feeding or afking botlaners :D But I pulled through ! Fuck Bo5's seriously, I'm glad I won't have any to play for a while ! Bo3's are cool thou.
I got five reasons for you to shut up
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 29 2013 08:22 GMT
#6305
Congrats! Welcome the promised land where bot lanes never feed and nobody ever rages! All jokes aside congrats on the promotion, those bo5's can be pretty stressful.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 29 2013 09:17 GMT
#6306
On July 29 2013 17:22 vvSiegvv wrote:
Congrats! Welcome the promised land where bot lanes never feed and nobody ever rages! All jokes aside congrats on the promotion, those bo5's can be pretty stressful.


are we playing the same game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2013 09:17 GMT
#6307
Whats the best software to play blurays on pc? Vlc cant do it right?
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
July 29 2013 09:21 GMT
#6308
On July 29 2013 17:22 vvSiegvv wrote:
Congrats! Welcome the promised land where bot lanes never feed and nobody ever rages! All jokes aside congrats on the promotion, those bo5's can be pretty stressful.


Hahah :D Of course I don't expect my team mates to be any better now. And anyway, the only thing I can do to improve is focus on my own play and try to make my mates more motivated... But it just feels good not to have this massive BRONZE mark on your forehead anymore
I got five reasons for you to shut up
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
July 29 2013 09:53 GMT
#6309
Is there a way to keep chat rooms up upon logging out of LoL client?

I've checked the option in the rooms multiple times but always seems to reset for me.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 10:26:05
July 29 2013 10:25 GMT
#6310
Holy fucking shit I never knew.

Zephyr
Gold Value
25 attack damage = 1000g
50% attack speed = 1667g
10% movement speed = 900g
10% cooldown reduction = 322g
Total Gold Value = 3889g
Item cost = 2850g (725g)
(HAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR TENACITY!!!)

No wonder those Zephyr Udyrs rape so much. Brb buying Zephyr every game.
cool beans
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 29 2013 10:33 GMT
#6311
On July 29 2013 19:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Holy fucking shit I never knew.

Zephyr
Gold Value
25 attack damage = 1000g
50% attack speed = 1667g
10% movement speed = 900g
10% cooldown reduction = 322g
Total Gold Value = 3889g
Item cost = 2850g (725g)
(HAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR TENACITY!!!)

No wonder those Zephyr Udyrs rape so much. Brb buying Zephyr every game.


Just fucking around in normals I was grabbing a quick Zephyr after getting swiftness with the +15 movespeed bonus. I'm actually really terrible at Udyr but it was pretty damn easy just walking into lanes and walking away with the kill.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 10:40:39
July 29 2013 10:37 GMT
#6312
On July 29 2013 19:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Holy fucking shit I never knew.

Zephyr
Gold Value
25 attack damage = 1000g
50% attack speed = 1667g
10% movement speed = 900g
10% cooldown reduction = 322g
Total Gold Value = 3889g
Item cost = 2850g (725g)
(HAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR TENACITY!!!)

No wonder those Zephyr Udyrs rape so much. Brb buying Zephyr every game.


It's a pretty silly item. And then you get the switfties zephyr botrk triforce tiger udyr of nightmares, who zoomzooms around the map at like 600MS with bear, dueling and diving everybody who's alone. It's not a good first item though, because of the rather schizophrenic stats.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#6313
On July 29 2013 19:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Holy fucking shit I never knew.

Zephyr
Gold Value
25 attack damage = 1000g
50% attack speed = 1667g
10% movement speed = 900g
10% cooldown reduction = 322g
Total Gold Value = 3889g
Item cost = 2850g (725g)
(HAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR TENACITY!!!)

No wonder those Zephyr Udyrs rape so much. Brb buying Zephyr every game.

Yeah, Zephyr's only issue is making it fit on champs.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 29 2013 10:40 GMT
#6314
you're way overvaluing because you're pricing it according to longswords and stuff. practically everything has nutty values vs cost by that method, plus movement speed valuation is I think trickier than direct combat stats.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 29 2013 10:49 GMT
#6315
I noticed Imp takes it often on Vayne as a 3rd/4th item. I like it. I has uses with also Kog I guess, and maybe other ADCs, but the fact it gives almost no AD is sad given the other stats on it... It could be nice on Graves after BT maybe ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#6316
On July 29 2013 19:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
you're way overvaluing because you're pricing it according to longswords and stuff. practically everything has nutty values vs cost by that method, plus movement speed valuation is I think trickier than direct combat stats.


I didn't do the math, it's from LoL Wiki.
cool beans
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 29 2013 10:56 GMT
#6317
On July 29 2013 19:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 19:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
you're way overvaluing because you're pricing it according to longswords and stuff. practically everything has nutty values vs cost by that method, plus movement speed valuation is I think trickier than direct combat stats.


I didn't do the math, it's from LoL Wiki.

the lol wiki is way overvaluing because it's pricing it according to longswords and stuff. practically everything has nutty values vs cost by that method, plus movement speed valuation is I think trickier than direct combat stats.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 29 2013 11:02 GMT
#6318
I'm getting MtG ads on TL because of you guys.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 11:17:32
July 29 2013 11:12 GMT
#6319
has anyone noticed a bug with Elise w in human form? sometimes when I click to move very fast after "w" the spell goes on cooldown, but the spiderling doesn't appear... it happened quite a few times
EDIT: tried to do it in custom game, didn't happen, but it was usually happening when w was maxed and I was sending spiderling to brush
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
July 29 2013 11:21 GMT
#6320
On July 29 2013 18:53 JonnyLaw wrote:
Is there a way to keep chat rooms up upon logging out of LoL client?

I've checked the option in the rooms multiple times but always seems to reset for me.


Don't close the room before you log out or it'll disappear. As long as the window is open/minimized it'll be there when you log in.
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 147
ProTech142
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10303
GuemChi 5283
Zeus 384
Hm[arnc] 230
Leta 199
Mind 165
SilentControl 70
yabsab 56
JulyZerg 19
GoRush 16
[ Show more ]
ZergMaN 11
Icarus 10
soO 5
League of Legends
JimRising 772
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1327
Other Games
summit1g8058
WinterStarcraft640
C9.Mang0509
monkeys_forever240
amsayoshi99
RuFF_SC235
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick640
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 57
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream49
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1217
• Lourlo1178
• TFBlade406
• HappyZerGling80
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 50m
Afreeca Starleague
3h 50m
Jaedong vs Light
Wardi Open
4h 50m
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 50m
Replay Cast
17h 50m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
1d 4h
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
3 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.