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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 24 2013 16:18 GMT
#4841
On July 25 2013 01:04 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
On July 25 2013 00:09 Tal wrote:
I just found out nexus turrets don't have the same hitpoints as normal turrets. Its only taken like a thousand games.

They also have different damage.

Turret Range Base HP Base AD Gains 4 AD every: AD Caps at:
Outer Turret 775* 2550 152 1 min at each :40 second mark. 200
Inner Turret 775* 2550 197 1 min starting at 7:00 mark. 263
Inhibitor Turret 775* 2550 210 1 min starting at 16:00 mark. 330
Nexus Turret 775* 115 1 min at each :40 second mark. 343
Nexus Obelisk 1000* 9999** 999** N/A N/A

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Turret

Why is the base hp for the nexus turret missing?

Also, the nexus turrets (and the nexus and the inhibs) have natural regeneration. I believe it's 50 hp/5.

It's that way on the wiki.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 24 2013 16:21 GMT
#4842
On July 25 2013 01:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

300 viewers gg
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 24 2013 16:21 GMT
#4843
On July 25 2013 01:07 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:

I caught up yesterday through the XilDarkz discussions and peopling LR-ing Scip's tournament play, that was a test of my mental fortitude.

Mental fortitude?

Man, I remember the days when reading and talking with friends was fun.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 16:37 GMT
#4844
On July 25 2013 01:21 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 01:07 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:

I caught up yesterday through the XilDarkz discussions and peopling LR-ing Scip's tournament play, that was a test of my mental fortitude.

Mental fortitude?

Man, I remember the days when reading and talking with friends was fun.

It was just soooooo much. Plus I had missed most of the conversations I would have wanted to take part in.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 24 2013 16:39 GMT
#4845
On July 25 2013 01:21 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 01:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

300 viewers gg


Losing 2nd game D= no royal road I guess, but the other team has a few Diamonds, as well^^
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 24 2013 16:47 GMT
#4846
On July 25 2013 01:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 01:21 Lylat wrote:
On July 25 2013 01:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

300 viewers gg


Losing 2nd game D= no royal road I guess, but the other team has a few Diamonds, as well^^

My Shen sucks dick.
The legend of Darien lives on
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 16:50:11
July 24 2013 16:49 GMT
#4847
you want to pick shen in a high damage comp and then use ult to protect your high damage mid and bot in both lane and teamfight and usually just being tanky is enough then, when you have a tank mid it doesnt work as well
like id consistently ult draven and a cass with literally no armour (ferom runes or masteries) and just magic resist from runes and she'd survive every fight because our comp simply had no way to kill their squishies and nunu and volibear just went full tank even though they dont have that much damage themselves
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#4848
On July 25 2013 01:49 Slayer91 wrote:
you want to pick shen in a high damage comp and then use ult to protect your high damage mid and bot in both lane and teamfight and usually just being tanky is enough then, when you have a tank mid it doesnt work as well
like id consistently ult draven and a cass with literally no armour (ferom runes or masteries) and just magic resist from runes and she'd survive every fight because our comp simply had no way to kill their squishies and nunu and volibear just went full tank even though they dont have that much damage themselves

True, I mainly picked him because I wann learn and play «standard» champions.
Riven would have been nice since she shits all over Volibear.
The legend of Darien lives on
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#4849
standard so overrated
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 17:04 GMT
#4850
The other day I was Malph and laned against a Shen. Now that was a boring lane.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 24 2013 17:08 GMT
#4851
I pick shen so I can use his ult to steal cs from my other lanes. Gotta keep on top of those CS numbers.
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 24 2013 17:09 GMT
#4852
On July 25 2013 02:08 Fusilero wrote:
I pick shen so I can use his ult to steal cs from my other lanes. Gotta keep on top of those CS numbers.

That's why I play GP sometimes :3
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 24 2013 17:12 GMT
#4853
On July 25 2013 02:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 02:08 Fusilero wrote:
I pick shen so I can use his ult to steal cs from my other lanes. Gotta keep on top of those CS numbers.

That's why I play GP sometimes :3

Yeah but people rage when you steal with GP ult, with shen ult you call it "ult tax"
Glorious SEA doto
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
July 24 2013 17:18 GMT
#4854
I want to play Orianna again. I started getting teammates who picked amazing ball deliveries like Malphite/Zac; then I got lazy and assumed they'd give me great Ult positioning.

Last time I played her in Ranked I missed like 4 ults in a row because I pressed R as soon as my carrier initiated and now I'm scared of playing her again.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 17:21:40
July 24 2013 17:19 GMT
#4855
Ori is more than just her ulti. In fact I think the shield is the most important spell in extended fights. The amount of damage you can block is just insane. So missing an ulti while bad isn't that huge. It's a good CC but damage isn't that much higher than your W. Not to say it's good to miss an ulti, just you shouldn't be put off because you have been missing them.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 17:24:37
July 24 2013 17:23 GMT
#4856
jungle lesson with CT and Watch is up! (I think top with flame and shy was already posted) no eng sub yet though I think that takes 2 or 3 days.

obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 24 2013 17:24 GMT
#4857
On July 25 2013 02:08 Fusilero wrote:
I pick shen so I can use his ult to steal cs from my other lanes. Gotta keep on top of those CS numbers.

One thing I don't understand is why people don't pick Shen Jungle more.

I've never been cockblocked so many times as Rengar as I was when I vsed a Shen jungle. His slow clear speed doesn't matter because he never has to gank, he just counterganks. And he won't lose exp, gold, and a tower for using ult.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 17:26:17
July 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#4858
shen jungle clears too slowly
anyone can countergank but he can only do it once every so often anyway
what happens if your lanes are losing without ganks?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 24 2013 17:26 GMT
#4859
Also a shen without farm is kinda useless.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 24 2013 17:31 GMT
#4860
Also Shen is pretty bad at carrying smite and aura items like Aegis because he won't be there at the start of the fight anyway when you try to splitpush with nashor/baron threat.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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