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Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1018 Posts
July 24 2013 15:09 GMT
#4821
I just found out nexus turrets don't have the same hitpoints as normal turrets. Its only taken like a thousand games.
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 24 2013 15:11 GMT
#4822
On July 24 2013 23:21 Blurio wrote:
Wurm is the german way to spell worm.

Oh so wurst is actually a sort of worm ! It all makes sense now !
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 24 2013 15:16 GMT
#4823
On July 25 2013 00:11 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 23:21 Blurio wrote:
Wurm is the german way to spell worm.

Oh so wurst is actually a sort of worm ! It all makes sense now !


yes, you take a earthwurm and let it lie in water for a week, it will absorb the water and grow. Then you cook it and you have a wurst.


If you do it with eels, you will get our Blut(Blood)wurst
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 15:23:29
July 24 2013 15:22 GMT
#4824
On July 25 2013 00:02 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:01 Numy wrote:
It's a black hole that acts as a strong gravitational pull for throws.


Therefore it also must be the source of Dignitas' power.


My physics is a bit rusty but I believe as you tend towards a black hole you simultaneously exist and don't exist. This would explain Dignitas's ability to both throw and win in the game same constantly.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 15:33:24
July 24 2013 15:30 GMT
#4825
On July 25 2013 00:09 Tal wrote:
I just found out nexus turrets don't have the same hitpoints as normal turrets. Its only taken like a thousand games.

They also have different damage.

Turret Range Base HP Base AD Gains 4 AD every: AD Caps at:
Outer Turret 775* 2550 152 1 min at each :40 second mark. 200
Inner Turret 775* 2550 197 1 min starting at 7:00 mark. 263
Inhibitor Turret 775* 2550 210 1 min starting at 16:00 mark. 330
Nexus Turret 775* 115 1 min at each :40 second mark. 343
Nexus Obelisk 1000* 9999** 999** N/A N/A

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Turret
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
July 24 2013 15:34 GMT
#4826
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3
I got five reasons for you to shut up
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 24 2013 15:44 GMT
#4827
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 24 2013 15:46 GMT
#4828
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:

Answering that is a lose-lose situation.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 24 2013 15:48 GMT
#4829
I do. But I'm in holidays now.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
July 24 2013 15:51 GMT
#4830
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3


Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:


One can do it, but then the question would be at what cost?
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 24 2013 15:58 GMT
#4831
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:


In general i'll miss 3-5 pages overnight.

Other then that, yes :D
Useless wet fish.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
July 24 2013 15:59 GMT
#4832
Everyday I just read the most recent 5-10 pages just to stay relevant.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 24 2013 16:00 GMT
#4833
I do, but I have way too much time on my hands due to a job search. Rarely do I get over 50 unread posts unless I leave the house for extended periods of time / go to bed early.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 24 2013 16:02 GMT
#4834
On July 24 2013 23:56 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 23:21 Requizen wrote:
Been doing a bit of thinking about what makes certain champs strong. Yeah, to the Diamond+ players, this is going to be general knowledge and what not, but I need to muse and would like to talk a bit about it.

We joke a lot about mobility creep in here, but honestly, even above damage and AoE teamfight potential, I really think mobility and the ability to remove it (i.e. CC) are the strongest parts of the game. Playing Yi has made me realize how hard CC screws one over, as well as how strong it is to ignore slows and have a sprint. Whilst playing Udyr against anyone with a knockback or a slow seems like a nightmare, even with a good sprint that you can pretty much have up permanently.

I mentioned this in my writeup, I like to play champs that have viability all throughout a game despite snowball or lack thereof. And honestly, I think that equals, in a lot of cases, mobility and CC. Zac, for instance, generally doesn't snowball, doesn't have huge burst, can't 100-0 a team. But, as long as he's not completely shut down for the whole game, the ability to dive hard and lock down people with 2 AoE knockups and an AoE slow keeps you viable from level 1 to 50 minutes in the game. Ez is pretty much entirely viable thanks to E (and partially his ability to have CC on his Q with IBG). Kennen, Lissandra, Hecarim are all pretty legit picks just for this reason, I think.

Would I be somewhat correct in this assumption? That is, that high mobility and/or CC, non-snowball (and by that I really mean assassin and some mage) champs are just good pretty much all game and in all situations. I'm open to being told I'm wrong, but I think based on this assumption that these are the types of champs I'm going to be investing my time in.

And Teemo, ofc.



I think what your saying is true for the most part.

I think people put to much faith in the champ they win lane phase with, thinking that "well I won my lane" But if the case of say Shen or Malph top. You can "lose" lane phase and still be way more usefull then the opposing teams top laner. I can't speak of higher level games but in lower ones people often give up, or get to overconfindent and throw based on what happens in the first 15-20 mins of the game. If your team picks strong CC mobility, team fight champs you can be behind early and still win the game.

Much like what happened in game 2 of that series we were watching yesterday, the team was way ahead but then the teamfight strength of the other champs was too much.

Based on this I'm trying to learn, and play champs that help the team out the most and not nessecarly get the most killz. However I love j4 cause he does both =-)

Shen and Malph are pretty much the obvious examples outside of Marksmen. I honestly don't think of J4 that much because I think he's a bit too prone to counterjungle, but you're likely right on that front.

I was thinking more along the lines of mids. People liked to point out Lissandra as a good all around mage, and I think I got on this line of thought because I realized: her strength mainly comes from her good mobility and lots of CC (both hard and soft). It allows her to make plays if she needs to, follow up plays if she has a good initator, or escape/poke. Yi (who I've been playing a lot) really only has the second one, despite having his ult for good mobility.

Sorry about the random thoughts, work is boring. Should be planning Saturday's D&D session instead >.>
It's your boy Guzma!
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 24 2013 16:04 GMT
#4835
On July 25 2013 00:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:09 Tal wrote:
I just found out nexus turrets don't have the same hitpoints as normal turrets. Its only taken like a thousand games.

They also have different damage.

Turret Range Base HP Base AD Gains 4 AD every: AD Caps at:
Outer Turret 775* 2550 152 1 min at each :40 second mark. 200
Inner Turret 775* 2550 197 1 min starting at 7:00 mark. 263
Inhibitor Turret 775* 2550 210 1 min starting at 16:00 mark. 330
Nexus Turret 775* 115 1 min at each :40 second mark. 343
Nexus Obelisk 1000* 9999** 999** N/A N/A

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Turret

Why is the base hp for the nexus turret missing?

Also, the nexus turrets (and the nexus and the inhibs) have natural regeneration. I believe it's 50 hp/5.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 24 2013 16:04 GMT
#4836
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien
The legend of Darien lives on
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 24 2013 16:06 GMT
#4837
On July 25 2013 01:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

The real question is: who's jungling?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 16:07 GMT
#4838
On July 25 2013 00:44 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:34 The_Unseen wrote:
Even though I can't keep up with the amount of posting here, let me tell you that it is tremendously helpful to read this topic when you're an almost-ex-SC2 player looking to reconvert in LoL longterm <3

Can ANYBODY keep up with the amount of posting here? D:

I caught up yesterday through the XilDarkz discussions and peopling LR-ing Scip's tournament play, that was a test of my mental fortitude.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 24 2013 16:13 GMT
#4839
On July 25 2013 01:06 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 01:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Playing 5s with Scip and Teutonica !

http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien

The real question is: who's jungling?

Pretty sure Scip wouldn't let Teut play some fiora jungle.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 24 2013 16:17 GMT
#4840
Watching Shen lane is probably about as boring as watching me lane as AP Yi.
It's your boy Guzma!
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