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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 24 2013 19:26 GMT
#4881
On July 25 2013 04:16 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 04:08 Slusher wrote:
On July 25 2013 04:07 cLutZ wrote:
On July 25 2013 02:31 Alaric wrote:
Also Shen is pretty bad at carrying smite and aura items like Aegis because he won't be there at the start of the fight anyway when you try to splitpush with nashor/baron threat.


People are building Bulwark shen all the time toplane. Its super strong.


I've noticed this trend too, I don't get it, looks on paper like a shit choice but I'm open to an explanation.

Opens your jungler to get other options, which is really good when your jungler benefits heavily from a strong early/mid offensive item like Haunting Guise (Elise, Evelynn) Still is very strong for increasing your dueling power vs. an AP opponent (You weren't going to get your Sunfire first anyway, so the fact that it delays Sunfire is irrelevant.) You are basically guaranteed at being there for major teamfights via ulti, and thus your Aura will be there also..


yea but bulwark does a lot of it's work vs pre fight poke.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 24 2013 19:28 GMT
#4882
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 24 2013 19:30 GMT
#4883
On July 25 2013 04:26 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 04:16 sylverfyre wrote:
On July 25 2013 04:08 Slusher wrote:
On July 25 2013 04:07 cLutZ wrote:
On July 25 2013 02:31 Alaric wrote:
Also Shen is pretty bad at carrying smite and aura items like Aegis because he won't be there at the start of the fight anyway when you try to splitpush with nashor/baron threat.


People are building Bulwark shen all the time toplane. Its super strong.


I've noticed this trend too, I don't get it, looks on paper like a shit choice but I'm open to an explanation.

Opens your jungler to get other options, which is really good when your jungler benefits heavily from a strong early/mid offensive item like Haunting Guise (Elise, Evelynn) Still is very strong for increasing your dueling power vs. an AP opponent (You weren't going to get your Sunfire first anyway, so the fact that it delays Sunfire is irrelevant.) You are basically guaranteed at being there for major teamfights via ulti, and thus your Aura will be there also..


yea but bulwark does a lot of it's work vs pre fight poke.


You can still go double Bulwark.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
July 24 2013 19:34 GMT
#4884
On July 25 2013 03:57 Requizen wrote:
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On July 25 2013 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
me as pantheon and vlad both collaborated and gave our kills to the warwick jungle.
he proceeded to ocarry the game by doing whatever he wanted. reverse priority op

This should be the new thing. Laners get all farm, Jungles get all kills. Everyone wins!


Except Support. Fuck Support.


When I first started playing this game with my girlfriend, we read enough to know about the idea of "support" champions but didn't really have an understanding of why. (This is when you needed a dedicated page just to jungle and had to start cloth/5, so nobody did it so wards were largely under appreciated.)

Anyway, she'd play Soraka and I'd play Fiddles in a duo lane. "Fiddles base AD sucks so bad it's hard to farm. Why don't you just Starcall to farm and I'll focus on killing the enemy champions."

I'd like to think we won a lot of games this way...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 24 2013 19:38 GMT
#4885
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.


Hooooooooooooooray.

After Twitch will it be Tristana?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2013 19:39 GMT
#4886
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.


More than Condemn range?

Also, there is a real advantage to having a higher farm champ with Bulwark (RIP, soon) because they stay alive longer, meaning more uptime. The only downside I think is that you have to have a competent shen who doesn't wait too long to join.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 19:43 GMT
#4887
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.

Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
July 24 2013 19:44 GMT
#4888
there was a long bulwark discussion previously in this thread where it was pointed out that the biggest advantage of having the top laner get bulwark is the significantly earlier timing
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 19:52:09
July 24 2013 19:51 GMT
#4889
On July 25 2013 04:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.

Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.


Sounds like they are nerfing ulti too.

na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=40067012#40067012
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
July 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#4890
Oddone streaming TSM's 1v1s to decide who does dishes lol....
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#4891
On July 25 2013 04:51 Mauzel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 04:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.

Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.


Sounds like they are nerfing ulti too.

na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=40067012#40067012

Hmm...interesting. I guess we'll have to see what they decide about that. Final Hour is pretty strong for dueling and 2v2 so I guess I can see how the power spike is strong. My friend always talked about how he wished she wouldn't go stealth until a split second after she Tumlbed so you could have some clue as to which direction she was going. Maybe we'll see something like that.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#4892
On July 25 2013 04:53 Koenig99 wrote:
Oddone streaming TSM's 1v1s to decide who does dishes lol....


TOO always does dishes now?
Freeeeeeedom
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 24 2013 20:15 GMT
#4893



Dunno if you guys have seen this yet, but turn on subtitles for free lessons from the world's best players
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 24 2013 20:17 GMT
#4894
On July 25 2013 04:51 Mauzel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 04:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote:
Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.

Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.


Sounds like they are nerfing ulti too.

na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=40067012#40067012

CD nerf, nothing too drastic.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 24 2013 20:20 GMT
#4895
I'd honestly have to agree with the vayne CD nerf. As it is right now, it's a pretty low cooldown for the amount of power it gives.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 24 2013 20:20 GMT
#4896
I'm glad that Vayne's getting nerfed though, she's way too strong right now. All you need is a bork and your midgame is godlike. You can duel any adc easily, and since Cait/Draven/Varus got nerfed and how everyone runs lifesteal quints, her early game isn't bad enough to offset her lategame.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 24 2013 20:20 GMT
#4897
can we not post those videos anymore, i skip pages sometimes and that's like the fifth time I've seen them.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 24 2013 20:21 GMT
#4898
On July 25 2013 05:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6CS-ARZ67U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BDUQHdVT_c

Dunno if you guys have seen this yet, but turn on subtitles for free lessons from the world's best players

HOLY SHIT GUYS
This video has been posted like four times today alone. l0l

I take it GD moves too fast for some of you?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 24 2013 20:22 GMT
#4899
No; people just too lazy to read through GD....
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 24 2013 20:25 GMT
#4900
Neo you didn't join us last night
It's your boy Guzma!
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