On July 25 2013 02:31 Alaric wrote: Also Shen is pretty bad at carrying smite and aura items like Aegis because he won't be there at the start of the fight anyway when you try to splitpush with nashor/baron threat.
People are building Bulwark shen all the time toplane. Its super strong.
I've noticed this trend too, I don't get it, looks on paper like a shit choice but I'm open to an explanation.
Opens your jungler to get other options, which is really good when your jungler benefits heavily from a strong early/mid offensive item like Haunting Guise (Elise, Evelynn) Still is very strong for increasing your dueling power vs. an AP opponent (You weren't going to get your Sunfire first anyway, so the fact that it delays Sunfire is irrelevant.) You are basically guaranteed at being there for major teamfights via ulti, and thus your Aura will be there also..
yea but bulwark does a lot of it's work vs pre fight poke.
On July 25 2013 02:31 Alaric wrote: Also Shen is pretty bad at carrying smite and aura items like Aegis because he won't be there at the start of the fight anyway when you try to splitpush with nashor/baron threat.
People are building Bulwark shen all the time toplane. Its super strong.
I've noticed this trend too, I don't get it, looks on paper like a shit choice but I'm open to an explanation.
Opens your jungler to get other options, which is really good when your jungler benefits heavily from a strong early/mid offensive item like Haunting Guise (Elise, Evelynn) Still is very strong for increasing your dueling power vs. an AP opponent (You weren't going to get your Sunfire first anyway, so the fact that it delays Sunfire is irrelevant.) You are basically guaranteed at being there for major teamfights via ulti, and thus your Aura will be there also..
yea but bulwark does a lot of it's work vs pre fight poke.
On July 25 2013 03:55 Kenpachi wrote: me as pantheon and vlad both collaborated and gave our kills to the warwick jungle. he proceeded to ocarry the game by doing whatever he wanted. reverse priority op
This should be the new thing. Laners get all farm, Jungles get all kills. Everyone wins!
Except Support. Fuck Support.
When I first started playing this game with my girlfriend, we read enough to know about the idea of "support" champions but didn't really have an understanding of why. (This is when you needed a dedicated page just to jungle and had to start cloth/5, so nobody did it so wards were largely under appreciated.)
Anyway, she'd play Soraka and I'd play Fiddles in a duo lane. "Fiddles base AD sucks so bad it's hard to farm. Why don't you just Starcall to farm and I'll focus on killing the enemy champions."
I'd like to think we won a lot of games this way...
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote: Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
More than Condemn range?
Also, there is a real advantage to having a higher farm champ with Bulwark (RIP, soon) because they stay alive longer, meaning more uptime. The only downside I think is that you have to have a competent shen who doesn't wait too long to join.
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote: Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.
there was a long bulwark discussion previously in this thread where it was pointed out that the biggest advantage of having the top laner get bulwark is the significantly earlier timing
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote: Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote: Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.
Hmm...interesting. I guess we'll have to see what they decide about that. Final Hour is pretty strong for dueling and 2v2 so I guess I can see how the power spike is strong. My friend always talked about how he wished she wouldn't go stealth until a split second after she Tumlbed so you could have some clue as to which direction she was going. Maybe we'll see something like that.
On July 25 2013 04:28 Gahlo wrote: Vayne nerfs incoming. Calling 1-2 months before they nerf Twitch.
Aren't they just nerfing the knock-back range on Condemn? Seems fair after they buffed the range to match her AA Range. It really seemed to make her laning a lot safer.
I'm glad that Vayne's getting nerfed though, she's way too strong right now. All you need is a bork and your midgame is godlike. You can duel any adc easily, and since Cait/Draven/Varus got nerfed and how everyone runs lifesteal quints, her early game isn't bad enough to offset her lategame.
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