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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 19:06:08
July 23 2013 19:05 GMT
#4401
bad scip is bad
there's still gonna be a 3rd game, hopefully I can redeem myself
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
July 23 2013 19:05 GMT
#4402
On July 24 2013 03:57 UniversalSnip wrote:
So what do I think of inter-ranking interactions in lol? I think it's a side issue, one I didn't address, because if it were there, it would be only one of dozens of methods of improvement he isn't taking advantage of. Streams are an incredible force multiplier for the ability of high skill players to teach lower skill ones. TLs discussion is, imo, of a higher quality than ever. He could probably even go through and read devtracker posts and it would represent relatively high quality prep work. The guy is drowning in resources and opportunities for self examination, but we are dealing with someone who says he paid attention when he was told not to think. Swish that phrase around in your mouth.

As far as his credentials in other games: i don't care. It's a non topic for me. The idea that syndra, who I have never played, is apparently some kind of a cheese pick does not move my heart. His problem isn't a lack of access to pro players, it's an inhibition toward critical thinking. Now if you want to discuss lack of access to pro players in league as a whole, that's a completely different issue - not one I'm sure we'd agree on, but a distinct one that needs to be drawn out separately.



Okay but when you are "drowning in resources and opportunities for self examination," it is extremely difficult to shift through what's important and what's not. It's like, yeah, you have every opportunity to learn the historiography of the Korean War, but you have no idea what is considered the current canon of Korean history.

Furthermore, I saw no inhibition towards critical thinking. Instead I saw someone looking to challenge himself and improve with players that are better.

And having played and improved at many many games, I can tell you that playing with better people is the most effective way to become better, hands down. Nothing compares.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 23 2013 19:06 GMT
#4403
By the way, this is why Melle AD is not a thing, he can't shred Malph (maybe he could win an all in, who knows), so whats the point? Plus he loses to an Ezreal in a duel? Come on.
Freeeeeeedom
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#4404
On July 24 2013 03:40 Mauzel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 03:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On July 24 2013 02:57 TheYango wrote:
I just went back and read the XilDarkz discussion, and holy shit TL LoL GD you guys are all in the wrong here.

The guy's not saying he expects to get carried by people better than him. He's not even saying he deserves to win games that he isn't winning. He's saying that if you are matched into a game where the skill level is above your own, it is easier to see your mistakes than when you are matched into one below you. And you know what? HE'S RIGHT. You learn more from playing against people who shitstomp you because they punish your mistakes more.

You guys just mistook him for another solo queue whiner without actually reading what he had to say.

Probably the best experience I had learning how to lane in this game was getting absolutely crushed in TL Inhouses 1v1 mid by EzPz. I know 5HIT mirrors this experience as well. Getting to play against players vastly better than you is a huge boon to your learning, and it IS unfortunate that there aren't avenues for players to do this in LoL.

Completely agree with you on playing against better plays improves your play. But I would disagree with there not being avenues to do this. Even Liquid Party we can get a inhouse going. Or just asking someone in LiquidParty to play with you and give you some tips.



As it is, I don't think anyone suggested LiquidParty (if it was, it was suggested once maybe?) and it's certainly not obvious that this is Liquid Party's purpose. Definitely hard for someone new to come to these forums and figure out that's where they need to go.

I think something like a once monthy or biweekly "Duo with a Diamond TL LoL Player" would make this clear. None of the whining about losing to tryhard diamond players because that's all you're going to get.

Oh im sorry Don't go to liquid party go to "LiquidPractice"
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 23 2013 19:07 GMT
#4405
--- Nuked ---
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4406
On July 24 2013 04:07 JimmiC wrote:
Its amazing how fast games can swing. KRAZY

tell me about it. This last game we had 2 inhibs down and then like 10 minutes later we won. :D
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4407
On July 24 2013 04:06 cLutZ wrote:
By the way, this is why Melle AD is not a thing, he can't shred Malph (maybe he could win an all in, who knows), so whats the point? Plus he loses to an Ezreal in a duel? Come on.


To be fair ez is an amazing duelist :D.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4408
I didn't see what started that disaster at baron, what happened?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4409
EU EzPz wants 1v1 with US EzPz for the name.

Similar bets should happen between the other dopplegangers, COUGH TOLKIENS COUGH.

To prevent further confusion.
Useless wet fish.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4410
On July 24 2013 04:01 Ketara wrote:
I feel like Gaminggear's team comp is stronger here, unless somebody wants to tell me otherwise, and they are just being outplayed.

Several complete whiff Ori ults helps.

Yeah, right after champ select I expressed scepticism at nfaculty's teamcomp, but more because of Tryndamere reduced to splitpushing considering his opponents and gaminggear's comp being so good at ignoring disengages (Malph's cc-immune ult) and tower diving.

I was surprised at Ezreal's going blue build too considering the general lack of damage from his team, but since he's against Tryndamere it helps him kite him.

On July 24 2013 04:01 Frudgey wrote:
Just out of curiosity why does everyone think that MOBAfire is a bad resource for League?

Is it because it's too easy to find a bad guide/the bad guides severely outnumber the quality ones?

I mean I used I've used some of the guides there to some success, but I do think you have to be careful in what you're looking for.

Sites like Millenium or Mobafire used to be really trash when it came to good content, I heard they've improved but because of that lack of quality I either never used them or stopped pretty fast, and I haven't went back to them since. I just stopped mocking since it would be obsolete, but the image they have is still strong.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#4411
On July 24 2013 04:08 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:06 cLutZ wrote:
By the way, this is why Melle AD is not a thing, he can't shred Malph (maybe he could win an all in, who knows), so whats the point? Plus he loses to an Ezreal in a duel? Come on.


To be fair ez is an amazing duelist :D.

Most adc's are amazing duelist's*
fixed
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 23 2013 19:09 GMT
#4412
Depends on what champs they facing but yeah in general when they fed they are pretty stronk.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 23 2013 19:10 GMT
#4413
That proves it, EU worst region.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 23 2013 19:10 GMT
#4414
On July 24 2013 04:08 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:08 nafta wrote:
On July 24 2013 04:06 cLutZ wrote:
By the way, this is why Melle AD is not a thing, he can't shred Malph (maybe he could win an all in, who knows), so whats the point? Plus he loses to an Ezreal in a duel? Come on.


To be fair ez is an amazing duelist :D.

Most adc's are amazing duelist's*
fixed


Most marksmen are amazing duelists.

Fixed.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 19:14 GMT
#4415
Still no Eve for Scippypoo
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 19:15 GMT
#4416
THE POPPY?
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 23 2013 19:16 GMT
#4417
It's just a placeholder pretty sure :D.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 23 2013 19:16 GMT
#4418
Judging from the guy's background in HoN/DotA, it seems to me that he legitimately wanted to improve, but quite simply didn't want to deal with the environment of solo queue. Which is a fair attitude to have, but gets looked-down upon in LoL because of the LoL community's obsession with solo queue.

In terms of community mentality, there's something unique about LoL where there's something of a stigma surrounding solo queue, where for most people this is the defining experience in LoL and normals simply take a back seat. Even for people who pretty clearly don't enjoy the solo MM experience, there's a lot of pressure to perform in solo queue as the means to measure your improvement. This is totally unlike DotA or DotA 2, where its pretty much a normal thing to play stacks or inhouse games if you don't like MM. Hell, even the idea of a pro player that doesn't solo pub is something that feels foreign to us in LoL.
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Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
July 23 2013 19:17 GMT
#4419
What. Poppy?

What is going on.
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
July 23 2013 19:17 GMT
#4420
How are you supposed to build zed anyway? rush BoRK->LW->warmogs?
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
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