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Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
July 23 2013 17:17 GMT
#4241
On July 24 2013 02:16 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 02:10 mr_tolkien wrote:
On July 24 2013 02:08 Scip wrote:
LOL MRTOLKIEN TOLD THEM WHAT CHAMPIONS I PLAY
good thing he misremembered

Well tbh I just said the 3 FotM junglers usually banned xD

I forgot you played the dancing queen.

EDIT : I just talked about it here. Scip is making fun of me because I got a goldfish memory.

It's been proved that goldfish do have decent memories :c
Stahp hating goldfish

True ^^
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 23 2013 17:17 GMT
#4242
On July 24 2013 02:15 Ghost-z wrote:
Could you play Nocturn mid as a counter to TF mid? Everytime TF tries to roam and ult you just follow him and counter ult. You can force him to teleport while blind, and spell shielding gold card should be easy. The only issue I can see is the lack of range on Nocturn's level 6 ult.

TF ult lasts longer then Nocs. By a large margin, tf ult is 10 seconds and nocts is 4. At earlier levels it's much more useful, but you'll get out scaled easily.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 23 2013 17:21 GMT
#4243
On July 24 2013 01:33 Alaric wrote:
He has less burst than TF and weaker gank assist in lane though, his ult also needs vision instead of providing it, which can make cleaning up harder. And he's a bit more predictable in that he only has roughly half the range on his ult, and can't really instaclear the wave (at least not until it's balled up, while TF can kill it while it's still aligned).

How does he work? Apart from the ganking, I mean. You try to tag the enemy laner with Q when he goes for a last hit and use the MS to catch up and fear him, with the spellshield used to deflect any cc/peeling thrown your way? Since he lacks a "true" gap closer I'm having trouble figuring how he kills his laning opponent (unless they somehow let him get into fear casting range).

Let's be serious now, since when was "worse than TF" ever actually a flaw?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 17:25:42
July 23 2013 17:22 GMT
#4244
*proven!

Also against TF I just go "fuck you", pick Viktor, and force him under his tower for the whole laning phase, and he'll only be able to TP when I back (or he does) otherwise he loses a full wave minimum each time, if I don't outright catch him, ult his TP channel and kill him (annoying to do tho).
But I've got 0 kill potential on him unless I get blue (so I can E the wave and still have enough mana to try and lower him) and ward both sides to avoid ganks while I'm near his tower. He's just annoying like that.

^ I didn't mean to say that Noc mid is weak, however since he was compared to TF I went along those lines. I have never played it or seen it in my games so I'm curious as to how it compares (for example I expected Lux to "gank" faster than him through E instaclearing the wave and her ult having a similar range).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 23 2013 17:23 GMT
#4245
Nocturne is a balanced champion and therefore a subpar pick for competitive play.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
July 23 2013 17:23 GMT
#4246
It's duration is 6/8/10 and the range is more than double the range nocturn has until lvl 16. When you compare them their really isn't a contest. TF ult is hands down better except that nocturns ult deals damage.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 23 2013 17:24 GMT
#4247
DAT SCIP GIVING FB TO HIS TEAM. 2GUD.
The legend of Darien lives on
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 23 2013 17:24 GMT
#4248
Why does every caster ever feel the need to use the term "agressed on"
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 17:24 GMT
#4249
SCIP HWAITING
It's your boy Guzma!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 17:28:29
July 23 2013 17:25 GMT
#4250
Scip OPP!!

e: lol call my spoiled cause of LCS but watching amateur tournament it starts to bother me that the champs aren't sorted in order of offllane-jungle-mid-ad-supp ~_~

Dat Scip!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 23 2013 17:25 GMT
#4251
Mouse > Scip.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 23 2013 17:26 GMT
#4252
Good guy Scip with the pink ward.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#4253
Scip pls
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#4254
Scip carry
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 17:30:00
July 23 2013 17:29 GMT
#4255
Wat, is scip streaming ? i missed something.

Edit: ok found the link
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 17:30 GMT
#4256
Wow this twitch chat is legit retarded.
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 23 2013 17:30 GMT
#4257
On July 24 2013 02:30 Requizen wrote:
Wow this twitch chat is legit retarded.

Thank god for the ignore function~
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 23 2013 17:31 GMT
#4258
On July 24 2013 02:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 02:30 Requizen wrote:
Wow this twitch chat is legit retarded.

Thank god for the ignore function~

You can even directly spectate the game from LiquidParty to get full 1080p in game :D
The legend of Darien lives on
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 23 2013 17:31 GMT
#4259
On July 24 2013 01:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On July 24 2013 01:16 jaybrundage wrote:
I dont know i think people where hard on the new guy. While he came off a little brusque at first, he just wants to improve like everyone else


I concur. I'm not a fan of what he was saying either, but we were pretty rough. It's hard when it seems like everyone is attacking you. I hope he comes back and asks more questions because the more people we can help, the better.

I just read the thread, and to be honest I actually totally agree with the guy.

That was really harsh and totally unwarranted. We all have different opinions on improvement. This isn't athletic sports, where we have 80+ years of experience on developing players and really good systems on how to improve. This is a videogame and a relatively new one at that, we don't know the best way to improve yet and it could even vary game-by-game. Hell, we don't even know what to improve and the only pedigree we ever go by is whether the player is high ranked or not, whereas in many other disciplines there are plenty of top-level coaches who might not have even performed at a top level, but they know how to get it out of other people.

There are also some people that are really good, but they don't know exactly why they are good, and they end up giving shitty advice because they think that's what made them better.





Also, on Syndra, I wouldn't say she has a high skillcap but I will say she has a slim margin for error. The stun is a big part of your kit and missing a stun could be the difference between getting an ace and getting wiped. This makes a huge difference in the mid game when it's rank 1 and has an 18s cooldown.

I think the real key to playing her will be timing her RE stun combo. The burst on R is great in the midgame but towards the end, the equivalent of a Sona Crescendo offers much more to a teamfight than just simply burst damage.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 23 2013 17:35 GMT
#4260
Godpaeus
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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