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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 10 2013 15:44 GMT
#301
On July 11 2013 00:40 zer0das wrote:
Playing Draven without wicked blades feels so weird. I guess I'll get used to it. On the positive side of things, I can harass people cowering under their tower without drawing tower agro 24/7.

Oh man, I hadn't thought about that. That will be nice actually.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
July 10 2013 15:55 GMT
#302
So many champs got changes or even ability reworks and my GP is still UP.. Is gangplank going to be next heimer? waiting for buffs forever?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#303
Well Heimer is getting a full blown rework so that's why it's taking so long. I can't speak for GP, although at the rate they are retooling old champs I wouldn't be surprised if he gets something done to him soon(tm).
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
July 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#304
On July 11 2013 00:55 Taktik wrote:
So many champs got changes or even ability reworks and my GP is still UP.. Is gangplank going to be next heimer? waiting for buffs forever?



You can play both heimer and GP at any level. Instead of complaining and waiting for buffs, try to find ways to play your favourite champion. It's not like they are olaf level of bad or they'd be buffed
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
July 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#305
Well, technically the current GP is the reworked GP.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#306
My Toy Soldier needs to see some more action.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:07:30
July 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#307
I want to start playing Corki again but i'm not sure how to build him now

Would you still consider triforce a core item on him? SoTL/Triforce or BT/Triforce?

What do think about tear and iceborn gauntlet?

(I've read the Corki thread, i want to hear some more opinions)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#308
For the people that missed it, the 1st rebroadcast of today's OGN is starting now.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#309
On July 11 2013 00:40 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 00:04 Numy wrote:
On July 10 2013 23:49 Sandster wrote:
Knowing runes/masteries is huge though. Most times people run standard stuff, which is nice to know, but there are always things you want to check at the start of a game:

-mid running 25 flat AP runes (9 times out of 10 they'll also start Doran Ring)
-whether certain champs (junglers, TF, Ryze) are running MS quints
-whether their support is running gp5 quints, and how aggressive/squishy they're spec'd/runed
-certain masteries are a big sign for how players play the champ, e.g. 21/9 vs 9/21 jungle Lee or 9/0/21 vs 21/0/9 TF

A lot of this stuff you'll see just by clicking on the champion in lane, but this saves you some time. All of these, especially masteries and certain rune choices, affect your lane. Trades bot lane are very different if the other AD is 21/0/9 and support gp5 quints 0/9/21 compared to AD 21/9 and support with AD reds HP quints 1/13/16, for example.

You should always check opponents' level 1 MS, AD/AP, armor, MR, items, and masteries. If their stats are lower than normal you can assume some combination of regen/penetration runes (now you lolnexus).


I just don't see how any of that really matters at any play except top level. There are just too big holes in peoples play to exploit that the tiny advantages you can gain by knowing this information is almost irrelevant. That's my view at least. It's trying to squeeze out the tiny advantages when you can focus on the much bigger ones and get a larger reward.


I don't follow...what's NOT good about knowing this? Knowing you can't outrun their TF/Ryze is a huge deal, as is knowing when someone is running a setup specifically set to all-in you pre-6 in lane. Most of the time this stuff doesn't matter (I mean, just about every AD runes the same setup with minor changes) but sometimes it does.

What other "big picture" advantages with bigger rewards are you thinking of, that's not how to properly lane against your opponent in the first 5min of the game? I'm only Gold but I still think about these things, and runes/masteries definitely affect lane trades and all-in potential. I guess your point was that you should focus on playing better, which I agree with 100%, but I'm saying that lolnexus gives you a free look at what to prepare for in a lane, before the game even starts.


Yea sorry I didn't convey my point that well. The bolded part was what I was trying to say. While it gives you information that you might not have direct access to early the relative gain over just focusing on improving your own play is small. Stuff like knowing you can't outrun someone is something that you should instinctively look at as soon as you see a champion.

I feel like it can even hurt your own play. You get bombarded with all this extra information that might not influence certain events but because you know this info that you wouldn't have before you overthink things and play worse. I'm just a sucker for simplicity really.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#310
for people who didn't see this in the sc2 forum

korean talk show with Nada, Nal-ra (OGN League Color Caster) and of course Yellow.(Ex Coach for Xenics Storm) but I assume y'all know who these guys are anyway

DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
July 10 2013 16:30 GMT
#311
I'm not even sure what it would take to get GP really viable again, obv no animation on e, but what else? Maybe rebuff his passive so it stacks more? Even with that it seems like the arms race top lane means he has to build tanky to survive, leaving him useless in midgame til he can farm up items, by which point the game is probably decided. Plus the "stay in lane farming for 25 mins while helping team with ult" is kind of obsolete with how fast laning phase ends nowadays, combined with his lack of pushing power, wave clear, and tower killing means he can't even punish the enemy top if they leave lane. I guess he could survive mid but even then why pick him over any other stronger AD mid?
Yarr?
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 10 2013 16:34 GMT
#312
On July 11 2013 01:22 AsnSensation wrote:
for people who didn't see this in the sc2 forum

korean talk show with Nada, Nal-ra (OGN League Color Caster) and of course Yellow.(Ex Coach for Xenics Storm) but I assume y'all know who these guys are anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqcwNPDnDuA


These guys were legends, pioneers, and an inspiration for an entire generation of gamers, professional or not. Here's to hoping there will be more of the same to come for the future, and that all the blood, sweat, and tears poured by these epic individuals does not go to waste. Here's to hoping that their successors build on their legacy, not try to leech off what they have built, and that these guys get remembered for what they were.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 10 2013 16:35 GMT
#313
On July 10 2013 23:36 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 22:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
Rammus isn't that bad honestly. He's a lot of fun, and the trick is to YOLO and ignore wards when you gank in soloQ. Zoomzoom and be surprised at how bad some people's map awareness is.

Never works for me


Its always worked surprisingly well for me, but you play with better people

It's also really easy to pick up a kill if you have a good timer on the enemy support's first river ward. When he goes in to reward (that's a confusing term), you can roll right up and murder him- Rammus just feels crazy strong in early jungle fights. I really depend on that kill to get going though.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#314
On July 11 2013 01:05 Spaiku wrote:
I want to start playing Corki again but i'm not sure how to build him now

Would you still consider triforce a core item on him? SoTL/Triforce or BT/Triforce?

What do think about tear and iceborn gauntlet?

(I've read the Corki thread, i want to hear some more opinions)

Rekkles builds muramana > trifroce > bt > lw.

btw Lucian is kinda cool.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:56:15
July 10 2013 16:55 GMT
#315
On July 11 2013 01:46 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:05 Spaiku wrote:
I want to start playing Corki again but i'm not sure how to build him now

Would you still consider triforce a core item on him? SoTL/Triforce or BT/Triforce?

What do think about tear and iceborn gauntlet?

(I've read the Corki thread, i want to hear some more opinions)

Rekkles builds muramana > trifroce > bt > lw.

btw Lucian is kinda cool.

Muramana's interesting on Corki, though he needs to upgrade Tear asap given he can't really stack it well as an ADC until level 6 if he gets it, and even then it's slow compared to Ez.

I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but Blade can never not be cool.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 10 2013 16:59 GMT
#316
I woke up eager to play Udyr, and i am still disappoint.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#317
I'm not seeing the Muramana synergy on Corki, unless he just needs the mana regen that badly?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 10 2013 17:11 GMT
#318
On July 11 2013 02:03 Ketara wrote:
I'm not seeing the Muramana synergy on Corki, unless he just needs the mana regen that badly?

does give him decent ad, and lets you spam like a madman.
not too bad imo. + the proc
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 17:26:36
July 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#319
I'm bored so I'll write an evelynn guide, going to post skeleton later today and give you guys a day or 2 to criticize it.
if we're fine with doing a new OP for Eve? the guide in old OP is horrrrrribly outdated
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
July 10 2013 17:25 GMT
#320
Anyone noticed the ninja voice edit on udyr? Atleast in the german version they updated his whole voiceover
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