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0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
July 16 2013 22:36 GMT
#2121
On July 17 2013 07:17 Lylat wrote:
Holy fuck EU lagging like crazy right now :/


ikr, we were about to do the last push and end the game around the 35 minutes mark, but it ended being a 1 hour long game baause everyone got dc... -_-
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 16 2013 22:37 GMT
#2122
Just went 17/3/2 as vayne in the lag.lel
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 16 2013 22:46 GMT
#2123
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 16 2013 22:47 GMT
#2124
On July 17 2013 07:46 Diamond wrote:
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.

(K+A)/D. If D is 0, substitute for 1.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 16 2013 22:52 GMT
#2125
On July 17 2013 07:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:46 Diamond wrote:
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.

(K+A)/D. If D is 0, substitute for 1.

My mind was blown recently when I learned that assists have the same value as kills in KDA. To me that makes it a much more difficult statistic to assign value.

Well, as long as we don't have the strange QB Rating statistic, where the maximum is 158.2.

FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 16 2013 22:54 GMT
#2126
holy shit that feel when you get 100 to 0 eating panths full combo with barrier on
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 16 2013 22:58 GMT
#2127
On July 17 2013 07:52 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:47 Gahlo wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:46 Diamond wrote:
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.

(K+A)/D. If D is 0, substitute for 1.

My mind was blown recently when I learned that assists have the same value as kills in KDA. To me that makes it a much more difficult statistic to assign value.

Well, as long as we don't have the strange QB Rating statistic, where the maximum is 158.2.


I hate QB rating with the passion of a sun that burns with the power of 1000 suns.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 16 2013 23:04 GMT
#2128
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25113-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-16-2013-shop
rofl the karma buffs are retarded
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 16 2013 23:05 GMT
#2129
On July 17 2013 07:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:52 kainzero wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:47 Gahlo wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:46 Diamond wrote:
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.

(K+A)/D. If D is 0, substitute for 1.

My mind was blown recently when I learned that assists have the same value as kills in KDA. To me that makes it a much more difficult statistic to assign value.

Well, as long as we don't have the strange QB Rating statistic, where the maximum is 158.2.


I hate QB rating with the passion of a sun that burns with the power of 1000 suns.


I know a statistic you might be interested in called PER.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 16 2013 23:08 GMT
#2130
On July 17 2013 08:05 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 07:58 Gahlo wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:52 kainzero wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:47 Gahlo wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:46 Diamond wrote:
Anyone know the formula for KDA? Can't find a good one.

(K+A)/D. If D is 0, substitute for 1.

My mind was blown recently when I learned that assists have the same value as kills in KDA. To me that makes it a much more difficult statistic to assign value.

Well, as long as we don't have the strange QB Rating statistic, where the maximum is 158.2.


I hate QB rating with the passion of a sun that burns with the power of 1000 suns.


I know a statistic you might be interested in called PER.

Or ESPN's QBR, it may be out of 100, but that stat sure angers a lot of people lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
July 16 2013 23:08 GMT
#2131
Passer rating is shockingly well designed. It's the football analytics equivalent of 0x5f3759df.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 16 2013 23:16 GMT
#2132
I think it's difficult for a lot of people to understand that there is no conceptual, intuitive value to some of these stats -- the only point is to be holistic and compared to itself.

Although, it's nice when stats are both holistic and somewhat intuitive -- like WAR, which, while a flawed statistic, is readily enough understood that it's gained massive popularity.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 16 2013 23:25 GMT
#2133
On July 17 2013 08:08 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Passer rating is shockingly well designed. It's the football analytics equivalent of 0x5f3759df.

I don't remember who, but QBR has no intuitive logic to quality and can make for extreme outliers.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
July 16 2013 23:28 GMT
#2134
On July 17 2013 08:04 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25113-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-16-2013-shop
rofl the karma buffs are retarded

There's no way any of those are gonna happen.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 16 2013 23:29 GMT
#2135
so I guess all ya'll totally agree with the BCS ranking system right?
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 16 2013 23:29 GMT
#2136
On July 17 2013 08:28 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 08:04 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25113-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-16-2013-shop
rofl the karma buffs are retarded

There's no way any of those are gonna happen.

Until somebody actually plays Karma competitively, she will get buffed to Superman Prime level.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 23:31:06
July 16 2013 23:30 GMT
#2137
On July 17 2013 08:29 Live2Win wrote:
so I guess all ya'll totally agree with the BCS ranking system right?

Clearly the LCS needs to implement a similar system. It is in fact the one, true ranking system.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
July 16 2013 23:31 GMT
#2138
On July 17 2013 08:04 kongoline wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25113-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-16-2013-shop
rofl the karma buffs are retarded


They're not quite as crazy as they initially look I think. She loses a lot of AoE damage on Mantra E, gets buffed damage on Q if and only if people are stuck in the explosion. I'm assuming the slow buff on it will guarantee for most movespeed/tenacity values that people will get popped if they're hit in the center of it. People caught at the edges will probably end up taking less in the long run I think.

Her laning will be substantially buffed though.
Stealing Nashor Podcast - http://stealingnashor.libsyn.com | Stupid build enthusiast
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 16 2013 23:34 GMT
#2139
With these buffs, she would be a complete lane destroyer (up from lane bully). Mantra Qs hitting like a truck, lifesteal from W buffed...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 16 2013 23:39 GMT
#2140
her laning doesn't really need buffs... it's her late game that's weak D:
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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