[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

On July 17 2013 09:26 TheLink wrote:
PBE is the place for experimentation you never intend to actually implement though and checking out what Karma looks like with game-breaking numbers (1.1 ratio on ult-Q lol) is probably pretty helpful for identifying which problems are with kit and which are simply numbers problems.

On July 17 2013 09:36 spellsy wrote:
i made a in depth stat analysis article of cloud 9, what do you guys think? http://cloth5.com/spellsys-stat-series-analyzing-c9s-playstyle/

its part of 1/3 series so wonder what you guys think

On July 17 2013 09:29 UniversalSnip wrote:
smash talking about what they're going to do with olaf and it's not looking so hot. basically the rundown right now is:

Q: Minimum range, no slow decay. Ok, sounds great. Does not go through walls, which sounds horrible because it's really fun to toss them through walls, but it sounds like that part might be open to adjustment.
W: Has no idea what to do with it. Increases your healing based on how low you are. Other stats might just be lifesteal and attack speed.
E: No changes.
R: Has no idea what to do with it.

So my concern here is that if W loses spellvamp and AD that basically turns bruiser builds off. It would be like twisting a faucet, the incentive for tanky items just dries up. The spellvamp is the 'bruiser' portion of the ability that makes up a substantial portion of olaf's in fight sustain when you're building tanky - as you can imagine the lifesteal portion actually isn't scaling up that hard when you're building defensively, but the vamp portion doesn't scale very hard off AD, so they each serve to prop up different builds.

Then, if you take AD off the skill and turn it into attack speed, olaf has *no* other source of AD in his skills at all, so what is that attack speed going to work with exactly? You'll essentially be shoved into AD or on-hit itemization.

To be clear I think encouraging him to build a cutlass or something would be a lot of fun because it's very enjoyable to just go into overdrive as you get low and start healing like crazy, but it really doesn't look to me like the tanky aspect that's surely necessary to him working is getting much respect.

On July 17 2013 09:51 NeoIllusions wrote:

wai u writing for Cloth5 and not us? D:
How much are they paying you?!

On July 17 2013 09:53 petered wrote:


Not sure if we are looking at the same info here.
From what I have seen, the plan is to add passive MR/Arm to his ult. You then lose it when it is activated, but you gain damage somehow (think it is attack speed or something). I personally think would be a good change. Feels like you are doing more/have to be more intelligent with your ult. It also seems like it would compliment either a tank or damage oriented build.

W is getting a flat AD boost rather than one that scales off of health, so he isn't losing the damage buff on w.

On July 17 2013 09:26 TheLink wrote:
PBE is the place for experimentation you never intend to actually implement though and checking out what Karma looks like with game-breaking numbers (1.1 ratio on ult-Q lol) is probably pretty helpful for identifying which problems are with kit and which are simply numbers problems.

On July 17 2013 10:51 Parnage wrote:
Question for you guys, I can't be the only one to have this issue, first game of the day shakes how do you deal with them? No matter the game, the first match I always end up getting a rush of adrenaline causing my fine motor control to go out the window often at the worst of times. It's only the first fight,match,etc. I've had the issues from Wow arenas, starcraft to league and pretty much every game. After that I am fine I can play under pressure with no issues.

It's getting me killed or nearly killed, any suggestions?

Also go for Curse icon or Jacky will cry.

On July 17 2013 10:51 wei2coolman wrote:
So I got both Curse and NiP summoner icons; the real question now is, which one do I roll with?

On July 17 2013 10:51 wei2coolman wrote:
So I got both Curse and NiP summoner icons; the real question now is, which one do I roll with?

On July 17 2013 11:09 Redox wrote:
His reason was mainly that it is just too strong. If one team completes Aegis and the other doesnt, the outcome of the next fight is pretty much determined.

On July 17 2013 11:13 TheYango wrote:

That's sort of the point of item timings.

Obviously if you teamfight into strong item timings you lose teamfights. The gameplay behind this fact comes from the weaker team finding ways to avoid teamfights until they are strong enough.