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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 09 2013 12:42 GMT
#7421
On July 09 2013 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 20:58 JonGalt wrote:
On July 09 2013 20:06 Numy wrote:
Have to remember Lesoto is basically around because no one else wants that land. Rest of SA isn't that bad although you do have quite a huge disparity between areas so some might be that bad. I've lived along the coast most of my life in the good areas. Also taxis are the best, they like 10x cheaper than "real" taxis


Oh yah, it's pretty sad. The land is eroding so fast. The people here lack basic farming techniques so they are just killing the land with over farming/over grazing. I heard a sad yet interesting fact that all of Lesotho's land in 50 years will be unable to grow anything. At which point South Africa will absorb it and hopefully the region can prosper a bit more.

?


did anyone try to teach them to last hit properly and freeze the lane or not shove it too hard so as to miss waves? They should notice something is up when the other lanes are have 2x the cs

Tryhard
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 12:46:39
July 09 2013 12:46 GMT
#7422
If you're going to get movespeed when not in combat in the ult tree anyway, is it better to get mana regen or mana pool in your masteries?

EDIT: getting summoner cd too, so only one is worthwhile.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 09 2013 12:52 GMT
#7423
On July 09 2013 21:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 20:58 JonGalt wrote:
On July 09 2013 20:06 Numy wrote:
Have to remember Lesoto is basically around because no one else wants that land. Rest of SA isn't that bad although you do have quite a huge disparity between areas so some might be that bad. I've lived along the coast most of my life in the good areas. Also taxis are the best, they like 10x cheaper than "real" taxis


Oh yah, it's pretty sad. The land is eroding so fast. The people here lack basic farming techniques so they are just killing the land with over farming/over grazing. I heard a sad yet interesting fact that all of Lesotho's land in 50 years will be unable to grow anything. At which point South Africa will absorb it and hopefully the region can prosper a bit more.

?


did anyone try to teach them to last hit properly and freeze the lane or not shove it too hard so as to miss waves? They should notice something is up when the other lanes are have 2x the cs


Hahahaha, no concept of it here down in bronze league.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 09 2013 13:15 GMT
#7424
On July 09 2013 21:46 Vanka wrote:
If you're going to get movespeed when not in combat in the ult tree anyway, is it better to get mana regen or mana pool in your masteries?

EDIT: getting summoner cd too, so only one is worthwhile.


Regen
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
July 09 2013 13:28 GMT
#7425
I love this thread. <3

Small town midwest represent! The mortgage for my house is like 60% of the figures you guys are throwing around lol.

Also, I've resolved to reach Silver before the baby comes. That gives me like two months. Currently Bronze 1 with 60ish LP but I get to play ranked like once or twice a week for a few games. Wish me luck!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 09 2013 13:40 GMT
#7426
Good luck!!

Also. Do people still play Darius? And if not (because ranged solos are all the rage), then do people play him in the jungle?

His base stats and ratios are pretty high, he could probably do well in the jungle as a tanky/CDR role and just spin, slow, pull, and dunk all day.
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TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
July 09 2013 13:54 GMT
#7427
Yeah he does well in the jungle, if you go top they usually try to counterpick you, but depending on elo they will fail. I had a Teemo counterpick me top and he would harass with Q, which meant I could just run up and whale on him and snowballed because he didn't save his Q. Not played vs Jayce but I imagine its horrible, as is vs Kennen and like you said almost any ranged top. In the jungle he's good, can't snowball quite as hard but when he does he can make his presence felt across the map. I'd recommend ghost for the lower cooldown and it makes your ganks seriously threatening, mobility boots can have a similar affect. His teamfight is amazing if you can get a good pull, spin and then aoe like hydra or randuins active or iceborn gauntlet.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 13:58:34
July 09 2013 13:55 GMT
#7428
On July 09 2013 22:40 JonGalt wrote:
Good luck!!

Also. Do people still play Darius? And if not (because ranged solos are all the rage), then do people play him in the jungle?

His base stats and ratios are pretty high, he could probably do well in the jungle as a tanky/CDR role and just spin, slow, pull, and dunk all day.

Professionally? He's super niche since his 1v2 sucks.

On July 09 2013 22:54 TSBspartacus wrote:
Yeah he does well in the jungle, if you go top they usually try to counterpick you, but depending on elo they will fail. I had a Teemo counterpick me top and he would harass with Q, which meant I could just run up and whale on him and snowballed because he didn't save his Q. Not played vs Jayce but I imagine its horrible, as is vs Kennen and like you said almost any ranged top. In the jungle he's good, can't snowball quite as hard but when he does he can make his presence felt across the map. I'd recommend ghost for the lower cooldown and it makes your ganks seriously threatening, mobility boots can have a similar affect. His teamfight is amazing if you can get a good pull, spin and then aoe like hydra or randuins active or iceborn gauntlet.


Just did the Jayce matchup yesterday. Went cloth5 ontop of armor quints and stalled the lane out. He couldn't do any appreciable damage on me but I couldn't force anything on him.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 14:13:04
July 09 2013 14:10 GMT
#7429
On July 09 2013 22:40 JonGalt wrote:
Good luck!!

Also. Do people still play Darius? And if not (because ranged solos are all the rage), then do people play him in the jungle?

His base stats and ratios are pretty high, he could probably do well in the jungle as a tanky/CDR role and just spin, slow, pull, and dunk all day.


He doesnt get pro play probably because his 1v2 isnt amazing,, hes a great jungle imo. I play him a lot lately

Laning him vs jayce and kennen actually isnt too bad because their autos arent longer than your pull. So if they try to harass you just pull them and go allin. Jayce is worse because the knockback and safe farm ability, kennen really doable.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 14:53:50
July 09 2013 14:14 GMT
#7430
Thanks! I am definitely gonna try him in the jungle and see what happens. Sounds like a lot of fun.

Also, letmelose is translating a pretty cool AMA with DanDy the jungler of MVP Ozone right now.

Edit: fucked up the link: www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420664#2

Edit 2: I dun goofed.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#7431
Of course that's not specific to Darius, all melee tops have those same problems with Jayce. I hear he's getting nerfed.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 14:40:58
July 09 2013 14:23 GMT
#7432
On July 09 2013 21:46 Vanka wrote:
If you're going to get movespeed when not in combat in the ult tree anyway, is it better to get mana regen or mana pool in your masteries?

EDIT: getting summoner cd too, so only one is worthwhile.

In the first two tiers, my quality ranking of these masteries is approximately:

Summoner CDR
Item CDR (marginally situational, i may overvalue this though?)
Mana Regen
Out of Combat Movespeed
Max Mana (unless my name is ryze)

edit: it is, after all, the utility tree however, and so your choice boils down to which mastery gives more utility to your specific champion, pretty much. The only really clear-cut answer is that mana regen is generally better than max mana.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 09 2013 14:24 GMT
#7433
On July 09 2013 23:14 JonGalt wrote:
Thanks! I am definitely gonna try him in the jungle and see what happens. Sounds like a lot of fun.

Also, Chexx is translating a pretty cool AMA with DanDy the jungler of MVP Ozone right now.


Its not me. Its letmelose!!
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 09 2013 14:24 GMT
#7434
Yes his gate will be 16 seconds at all levels.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 09 2013 14:28 GMT
#7435
On July 09 2013 23:24 Zhiroo wrote:
Yes his gate will be 16 seconds at all levels.

They also seem to be implying a hammer knockback nerf. #Fuckyes.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 09 2013 14:30 GMT
#7436
On July 09 2013 22:15 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 21:46 Vanka wrote:
If you're going to get movespeed when not in combat in the ult tree anyway, is it better to get mana regen or mana pool in your masteries?

EDIT: getting summoner cd too, so only one is worthwhile.


Regen


Mana regen is pretty much always better than max mana unless you scale from max mana. Health is different since higher max hp means you have higher survivability in team fights, but only if you REACH the team fight with max hp; i.e. if you are jungling 24/7 and losing health with no sustain, a health regen item is effectively more hp. (This was the philo vs heart of gold discussion as 1st jungle gp5 item.)
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
July 09 2013 14:33 GMT
#7437
On July 09 2013 21:36 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 21:28 JonGalt wrote:
I believe on both NA and EUW it is "liquidparty" or "liquidpractice"

If I am not right, I am close. Someone will correct me I'm sure.


It's LiquidParty


Cheers ! I'll log in there when I'm back from work then, hoping to find some cool ppl to play with, getting tired of my usual playmates
I got five reasons for you to shut up
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 09 2013 14:36 GMT
#7438
On July 09 2013 23:17 Osmoses wrote:
Of course that's not specific to Darius, all melee tops have those same problems with Jayce. I hear he's getting nerfed.

its more about all melee having big problems in general atm, 1v2 meta made them inferior in every aspect compared to ranged, theres a reason all u see is kennen, elise, jayce, shen top right now
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 09 2013 14:44 GMT
#7439
University housing is the most stupidly overpriced thing ever, its more than a grand per month.

But srsly, lets all just more to Korea. Or Taiwan.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 09 2013 14:59 GMT
#7440
On July 09 2013 23:24 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 23:14 JonGalt wrote:
Thanks! I am definitely gonna try him in the jungle and see what happens. Sounds like a lot of fun.

Also, Chexx is translating a pretty cool AMA with DanDy the jungler of MVP Ozone right now.


Its not me. Its letmelose!!


Thanks! I read so much of your stuff recently -> brainfart.
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