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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 25 2013 20:04 GMT
#4041
On June 26 2013 05:00 Clinic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 04:44 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 04:05 SliceAndDice wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:12 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:10 Vanka wrote:
The chinese server just got 3.8, and hasn't discovered jungle nunu yet. These are good times, my friends.


Don't worry Gold V in NA hasn't even figured it out yet. Always not banned, always not picked. Good times.


Always not, always not. I think there is a way to say that with one word. What was it. I can't remember. Gosh I'm so bad at this. I never remember words when I really need to.


Shut up. I am posting on a forum, proper English is not what forums (at least not this one) exist for.


i don't disagree with you, as you can see from the english in my own posts, but this subforum has pretty uniformly good english so the errant error does stick out


anyways, to repeat a question that got lost in discussion: what are some good sites/addons for tracking personal stats? kassad.in, lolking, and elophant are the sites i know of, but i was wondering if there were any others with additional functionality. i'm also curious if there are any lol utilities in the same vein as poker huds, overlaying data on other players and so on


Pretty sure if you want something more in depth than lolking and lolnexus, you'll have to pay for elobuff.

I personally don't have an account, but wish I did.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 25 2013 20:10 GMT
#4042
I am still not 100% clear on precisely what statistics/data/analysis elobuff provides, actually. Curious.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
June 25 2013 20:11 GMT
#4043
Elobuff was pretty bad last time I re-sub'd. Was massively out of date for S3 (a lot of shit plain just did not work). Tbh it really does not provide much, unless you only play normals.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 25 2013 20:13 GMT
#4044
On June 26 2013 04:42 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 04:33 sob3k wrote:
Ad LeBlanc is way better than Ahri, way more mobility and self peel +silence and no long CD's and better base AS and AD

Muramana is broken as fuck, and that build is probably just trying to abuse Ahri's ability to triple-muramana-proc on a 5s CD?

I forgot that each Spirit Fire counts as as single target spell, I could see that being part of the reason it works.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 25 2013 20:18 GMT
#4045
Ahri's ult lets you dash 3 times and procs muramana 9 times.

Seems legit to me.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 25 2013 20:25 GMT
#4046
Each bolt of her ult also counts as single-target. So she can apply BC almost instantly due to the way her W and ult work, Gauntlet is easily refreshed with her low-ish cooldowns and lets her hit charms easily, which in turn makes it easy to kite some more with Gauntlet's passive.
Is it optimal? Nope.
Does it make sense? Yup. A bit like a Rylai/Lichbane/Augmentower on Viktor. Speaking of which...

On June 26 2013 02:46 nafta wrote:
Pretty surprised that noone mentioned viktor.He is pretty much same as annie except you have poke.Also ziggs is a pretty simple character.

Annie has upfront burst, instant cc, initiation power, and a tankiness that tends to scale somewhat well into lategame. Tibbers gives her dps and presence on the field.
Viktor has poke and periodic damage rather than "true" burst, relies on skillshots and positional play (W, E), prohibitive mana costs, delayed cc (which make a huge difference in ganks) which weakens his early laning if leveled, but good kiting/clean-up potential. His "tankiness" is more of a midgame thing, when Q is maxed and you're at your power peak.

You can't just look at the point'n'click low CD Q and redirect-able (sp?) ult and say they're similar. Even the mana costs alone would make Viktor way harder to use than Annie, nvm the vectorial skillshots that'd make newbs pull their hair out.

Malzahar's probably a good choice: good pusher, good duelist, easy farming, alleviated mana costs, and his W isn't too hard to hit so it only leaves his Q, which good range makes not-too-risky.
Or Mordekaiser, but that's a bit abusive.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
June 25 2013 20:27 GMT
#4047
Too bad Diana would take a month to charge a tear, her W counts as 3 or 4 single target spells. At least it worked that way with Furor boots.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 25 2013 20:34 GMT
#4048
On June 26 2013 05:25 Alaric wrote:
Each bolt of her ult also counts as single-target. So she can apply BC almost instantly due to the way her W and ult work, Gauntlet is easily refreshed with her low-ish cooldowns and lets her hit charms easily, which in turn makes it easy to kite some more with Gauntlet's passive.
Is it optimal? Nope.
Does it make sense? Yup. A bit like a Rylai/Lichbane/Augmentower on Viktor. Speaking of which...

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:46 nafta wrote:
Pretty surprised that noone mentioned viktor.He is pretty much same as annie except you have poke.Also ziggs is a pretty simple character.

Annie has upfront burst, instant cc, initiation power, and a tankiness that tends to scale somewhat well into lategame. Tibbers gives her dps and presence on the field.
Viktor has poke and periodic damage rather than "true" burst, relies on skillshots and positional play (W, E), prohibitive mana costs, delayed cc (which make a huge difference in ganks) which weakens his early laning if leveled, but good kiting/clean-up potential. His "tankiness" is more of a midgame thing, when Q is maxed and you're at your power peak.

You can't just look at the point'n'click low CD Q and redirect-able (sp?) ult and say they're similar. Even the mana costs alone would make Viktor way harder to use than Annie, nvm the vectorial skillshots that'd make newbs pull their hair out.

Malzahar's probably a good choice: good pusher, good duelist, easy farming, alleviated mana costs, and his W isn't too hard to hit so it only leaves his Q, which good range makes not-too-risky.
Or Mordekaiser, but that's a bit abusive.

Spells have to be physical damage to apply BC stacks, don't they? I'm pretty sure none of Ahri's spells actually apply BC stacks.

Muramana, on the other hand, has great synergy.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 25 2013 20:35 GMT
#4049
Muramana is physical dmg which procs cleaver.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 20:36:51
June 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#4050
On June 26 2013 05:34 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 05:25 Alaric wrote:
Each bolt of her ult also counts as single-target. So she can apply BC almost instantly due to the way her W and ult work, Gauntlet is easily refreshed with her low-ish cooldowns and lets her hit charms easily, which in turn makes it easy to kite some more with Gauntlet's passive.
Is it optimal? Nope.
Does it make sense? Yup. A bit like a Rylai/Lichbane/Augmentower on Viktor. Speaking of which...

On June 26 2013 02:46 nafta wrote:
Pretty surprised that noone mentioned viktor.He is pretty much same as annie except you have poke.Also ziggs is a pretty simple character.

Annie has upfront burst, instant cc, initiation power, and a tankiness that tends to scale somewhat well into lategame. Tibbers gives her dps and presence on the field.
Viktor has poke and periodic damage rather than "true" burst, relies on skillshots and positional play (W, E), prohibitive mana costs, delayed cc (which make a huge difference in ganks) which weakens his early laning if leveled, but good kiting/clean-up potential. His "tankiness" is more of a midgame thing, when Q is maxed and you're at your power peak.

You can't just look at the point'n'click low CD Q and redirect-able (sp?) ult and say they're similar. Even the mana costs alone would make Viktor way harder to use than Annie, nvm the vectorial skillshots that'd make newbs pull their hair out.

Malzahar's probably a good choice: good pusher, good duelist, easy farming, alleviated mana costs, and his W isn't too hard to hit so it only leaves his Q, which good range makes not-too-risky.
Or Mordekaiser, but that's a bit abusive.

Spells have to be physical damage to apply BC stacks, don't they? I'm pretty sure none of Ahri's spells actually apply BC stacks.

Muramana, on the other hand, has great synergy.

Muramana procs BC stacks.

EDIT: KENNENED.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#4051
On June 26 2013 05:35 nafta wrote:
Muramana is physical dmg which procs cleaver.


Muramana procs BC stacks.

EDIT: KENNENED.


Oh yeah I forgot about that b.s. synergy, you guys are right of course.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 25 2013 20:53 GMT
#4052
On June 26 2013 04:44 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 04:05 SliceAndDice wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:12 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:10 Vanka wrote:
The chinese server just got 3.8, and hasn't discovered jungle nunu yet. These are good times, my friends.


Don't worry Gold V in NA hasn't even figured it out yet. Always not banned, always not picked. Good times.


Always not, always not. I think there is a way to say that with one word. What was it. I can't remember. Gosh I'm so bad at this. I never remember words when I really need to.


Shut up. I am posting on a forum, proper English is not what forums (at least not this one) exist for.


Improper English is that dreadful delinquency up with which I shall not put!
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#4053
On June 26 2013 05:53 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 04:44 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 04:05 SliceAndDice wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:12 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:10 Vanka wrote:
The chinese server just got 3.8, and hasn't discovered jungle nunu yet. These are good times, my friends.


Don't worry Gold V in NA hasn't even figured it out yet. Always not banned, always not picked. Good times.


Always not, always not. I think there is a way to say that with one word. What was it. I can't remember. Gosh I'm so bad at this. I never remember words when I really need to.


Shut up. I am posting on a forum, proper English is not what forums (at least not this one) exist for.


Improper English is that dreadful delinquency up with which I shall not put!


Ah the great Winston Churchill.

I had to dress up as him for high school AP European History back in the day. I was 6'1 160 (that's 185cm 72kg for the non-Americans).
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 21:42:48
June 25 2013 21:05 GMT
#4054
I don't ever want to play Ori against Karma again. 950 range spammable Q is so annoying to play against. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#4055
On June 26 2013 05:58 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 05:53 Seuss wrote:
On June 26 2013 04:44 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 04:05 SliceAndDice wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:12 Diamond wrote:
On June 26 2013 03:10 Vanka wrote:
The chinese server just got 3.8, and hasn't discovered jungle nunu yet. These are good times, my friends.


Don't worry Gold V in NA hasn't even figured it out yet. Always not banned, always not picked. Good times.


Always not, always not. I think there is a way to say that with one word. What was it. I can't remember. Gosh I'm so bad at this. I never remember words when I really need to.


Shut up. I am posting on a forum, proper English is not what forums (at least not this one) exist for.


Improper English is that dreadful delinquency up with which I shall not put!


Ah the great Winston Churchill.

I had to dress up as him for high school AP European History back in the day. I was 6'1 160 (that's 185cm 72kg for the non-Americans).


Do you even lift?

Everytime I try to start a conversation in GD it never works, so I'll try again.

What do you think of Botrk IE starts on adcs? Obviously they lack a bit of synergy with themselves, but they're probably the two strongest adc items as far as offensive power goes. I don't really like getting them back to back because they don't really help each other, but isn't it technically the strongest start for an adc who's doing well and can get them rather fast? I guess I don't really know why anyone rushes them back to back, but I do agree they're both strong items. I think IE + PD into botrk makes more sense to me, but what do I know?
Hey! How you doin'?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#4056
so happy that the elo decay notifications are active now
seriously something that this game could have used a long time ago. its so simple and so helpful
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
June 25 2013 21:18 GMT
#4057
My first game was a 3v3. Me and 2 other friends who were also on their first game vs 3 friends I met on cod who were 1400 elo in season 1. It was pretty funny
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 21:25:16
June 25 2013 21:23 GMT
#4058
What do you guys think about Tryndamere?

Op, hidden op, must ban ? He keeps destroying my games everytime he wins his lane
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 25 2013 21:24 GMT
#4059
On June 26 2013 06:23 Spaiku wrote:
What do you guys think about Tryndamere?

Op, hidden op, must ban, trash?


He hasnt been OP since that AP tryn phase and then he got nerfed. :<

He's a solid soloQ pick though
Useless wet fish.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#4060
ARAM --> Yi --> 1v5 --> ??? --> Penta

Never gets old.
+ Show Spoiler +
But I am never the Yi.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
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