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I definitely don't think Karthus is the easiest mid to start out with. His playstyle is pretty different from most mids, and doesn't transfer well to others.
Lux is definitely a good one to learn because she's skillshot-based and forces you to have good positioning, both important skills to learn. Then if you learn a burst caster like Annie and a high-mobility one (Ahri, Diana, Kass) you'll be able to play a wide variety of styles and mids.
EDIT: I honestly think TF has one of the highest skill caps for a mid because choosing the right card in pressure situations take a lot of practice, and for a new(er) player it's very difficult to pick correct cards while doing everything else. You also lose the lane to...well, everyone. As a player you need to learn how to handle your lane first before trying to roam and gank.
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TF and easy mid doesn't compute.
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On June 26 2013 02:16 Sandster wrote:
I definitely don't think Karthus is the easiest mid to start out with. His playstyle is pretty different from most mids, and doesn't transfer well to others.
Lux is definitely a good one to learn because she's skillshot-based and forces you to have good positioning, both important skills to learn. Then if you learn a burst caster like Annie and a high-mobility one (Ahri, Diana, Kass) you'll be able to play a wide variety of styles and mids.
EDIT: I honestly think TF has one of the highest skill caps for a mid because choosing the right card in pressure situations take a lot of practice, and for a new(er) player it's very difficult to pick correct cards while doing everything else.
Lux's playstyle is also fairly different than a lot of mids. I mean, light binding similar to morg Q, shield is pretty unique, everything is skill shots, ult is on a negative 5 second CD.
It depends on if he's trying to learn the dynamics of mid, or if he's trying to learn a champ that has properties that tie into other champs.
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Easy is subjective, since there are so many different playstyles that you can learn from mid.
If were to define it as non-complex mechanics, safe, scales well...
Probably Ryze/Morgana.
For a new player, I'd probably make them learn Orianna, as I think she's one of the most well-rounded mids with a skillset that carries over really well to other roles and champions.
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I wouldn't really say Oriannas ult is noob-friendly
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ryze is a no-brainer. very cheap, very safe, very strong.
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I guess it depends on you level but TF kit is very very strong if you can mimic better players well. Stun for pre 5 ganks mid, TP, global vision, and get stronger as game goes on also no bad MU. Morg, Ahri and Lux have bad MU and Morg and Lux requires excellent last hitting skills.
I mean learning mid for a level 1 player TF is hard but learning mid for a gold+ player Morg is so damn hard.
Statistically I am terrible mid but my TF, Zed, Karthus W/L ratios are still positive.
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On June 26 2013 02:23 Perplex wrote:
ryze is a no-brainer. very cheap, very safe, very strong.
Right, but I'm not an asshole, so I like to pretend he doesn't exist.
On June 26 2013 02:23 Eppa! wrote:
I guess it depends on you level but TF kit is very very strong if you can mimic better players well. Stun for pre 5 ganks mid, TP, global vision, and get stronger as game goes on also no bad MU. Morg, Ahri and Lux have bad MU and Morg and Lux requires excellent last hitting skills.
I mean learning mid for a level 1 player TF is hard but learning mid for a gold+ player Morg is so damn hard.
wut
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Her ulti isn't the most important part of the kit though. You can win fights in lower leagues while missing ulti and just tossing lots of shields/balls. It's a strange ulti in that normally ultis do massive amounts of damage but hers doesn't really.
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On June 26 2013 02:23 Perplex wrote:
ryze is a no-brainer. very cheap, very safe, very strong.
Ryze and Cass are kinda weird because you basically need to think/move like an AD carry to play them well.
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Annie by far best suggestion if you want to learn mid. She can, kind of, assassinate. She can initiate team fights. She can counter-initiate. She can just dish out AoE damage to the enemy team.
All of the above are something that every other mid laner will do and I can't really think of another mid laner who can do all of that. Maybe Diana but her AoE damage is only on Q. Skills you learn playing Annie will transfer over to other mids and once you play with Annie's range playing with someone who has OP range will be such an awesome feeling.
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On June 26 2013 02:25 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 02:23 Perplex wrote:
ryze is a no-brainer. very cheap, very safe, very strong. Ryze and Cass are kinda weird because you basically need to think/move like an AD carry to play them well.
Agreed, but I think the movement and control that you need to learn to get the most out of ryze translates well to almost every ranged champion (some just to a lesser extent), so he's just a really good champ to pick up when you're new.
Ryze is also a little bit more forgiving than cass/ADCs because he builds tanky and can also get away with running TP. You can get bullied out of lane and come right back with TP, or straight up lose lane and still turn the game around by TP'ing bot a couple times.
edit: yeah annie is a really good choice for learning mid too, forgot about her. So easy to CS and then ruin peoples day at 6
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I wouldnt really say TF is easy mid by any means, He takes some time to get used to, landing blue cards to recharge, red/wild cards combo and of course landing gold cards under heavy pressure. Plus he's pretty squishy, while his range isnt that great. But once you get the hang of it, the guy is incredible fun to play, and is very powerful.
Lux though on the other hand is a bit easier I feel. Laning is a lot about controlling space with lucent singularity use it to harass, and get easy last hits/clear waves, and it's got a nice range. Is a lot of fun too, but just a bit easier. Plus, lets not forget that awesome ulti.
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The mids that were recommended to me when I first learned the game were Annie and Morg, for reasons already stated. The only thing "hard" about learning Morg in gold+ is dealing with her obnoxiously long cds if you're not used to them...
Ryze would be good if you were transitioning from an adc.
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Annie is especially nice for people new to the game since she has that mechanic that rewards last hitting.
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Wait, what? Morg's ult does good damage. You just have to not be the guy who is like R>Zhonyas instantly and then you lose all your tethers because the other team's backline walks 2 steps back.
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When I 1st got Ori it was so weird to have to think of ball placement when trying to send it to a new location. I still don't quite have it down because too many times I send the ball somewhere but I wasn't in the right position so I had to walk forward before it cast. It is rather different from the other mids but I think mastering Ori would help with a lot of basics.
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I think Morg is a really good champion to learn if you need to improve on hitting skill shots. Her entire kit relies on her hitting Q so it's really punishing if you miss it.
Whereas a champion who is all skill shots like Lux can miss a spell and it's no biggie as long as she hits the rest of them.
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He was probably talking about Lux, though?
Morg's has to be the most forgiving non-ult skillshot in the game for your opponent, long wind-up, animation immediatly betraying it, standard speed (compared to Thresh who has a long wind-up too but moves fast, for example) and non-pass-through.
1300 range ain't too shabby, though.
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On June 26 2013 02:34 Nytefish wrote:
Annie is especially nice for people new to the game since she has that mechanic that rewards last hitting.
Gotta agree. Considering most mages have ass auto attacks, Annie getting to use her q to last hit every other minion is really nice.
Plus she has a fairly simple playstyle. Only thing you need to watch out for when playing her is the spell count on passive.
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