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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 24 2013 19:55 GMT
#3661
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:57:11
June 24 2013 19:56 GMT
#3662
On June 25 2013 04:51 Alaric wrote:
Nope. I own her and like to fail at playing her support from time to time (and I know of a certain stalker who cries every time he sees a non-mid Zyra or a non-jungle Elise—play less Kha and more Zyra yo, that I send him stalk you), but the way she uses her plants is definitely not my playstyle. I like Syndra/Cass/Ori more for this, even though I'm still pretty terrible at the first 2.

(And no, you can't chain it with a "Diana!" call. Why did she go from your sig btw?)


Only enough room for 3 - Vik, Annie, and Zyra are my top 3 most played.

Then try out Ori. She's very good, although can be somewhat reliant on teammates. Lissandra is good too, but I'm bad at her, so she isn't top on my list.

You could give Karma another shot =P

On June 25 2013 04:55 AsnSensation wrote:
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?


Project M is a mod for Brawl. You download the mod onto an SD card and then you can play it through Brawl Custom Stages (you have to delete any and all custom stages you have for the mod to work).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 24 2013 19:57 GMT
#3663
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 24 2013 20:01 GMT
#3664
On June 25 2013 04:52 LittLeLives wrote:
Anyone have any builds or tips for Lissandra?
I'm playing a lot more mid recently and I wanted something to play when TF isn't available.

She was played several times in the EU LCS last week, so you can check out those VoDs if you wanna see some high level Lissandra plays. General tips though, learn when it's a good time to ult yourself and when is a good time to ult the enemy, it seems simple enough but I've lost fights for ulting the wrong target. Build wise I've recently been going double DRings into Abyssal Scepter and then Deathcap or Zhonya's depending on how the game is going. Alex Ich has been building Haunting Guise an her but I'm not sold on the full magic pen build. I had been going RQEW but I'm not sure what the pros level. Alex was going RQWE and only using E for escapes/initiations and never for farming so that's something to consider.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 24 2013 20:02 GMT
#3665
On June 25 2013 04:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:55 AsnSensation wrote:
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?


Project M is a mod for Brawl. You download the mod onto an SD card and then you can play it through Brawl Custom Stages (you have to delete any and all custom stages you have for the mod to work).


ah ok thought you guys encourage not purchasing original copies sry ^^

bought my 3ds like 2 years ago only to relive the Ocarina of Time experience and haven't bought a single game or touched it ever since, but while browsing amazon the other day... Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion are games I consider buying to spend my time on the train efficiently.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 20:06:25
June 24 2013 20:04 GMT
#3666
I hate it when I play Lissandra and when I try to ult myself, a champion runs in front of my cursor and I end up ulting them instead.

With that said, I still prefer her in top lane where her range isn't a liability.
I build Zhonya's or Rod of Ages depending on how tough the lane is. If I go RoA first, then I go Zhonya's -> Abyssal, otherwise, Zhonya's -> Abyssal -> Liandry's.

onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 24 2013 20:06 GMT
#3667
I still don't think her range is as big of a liability in the laning phase as people make it out to be. There are almost always minions to increase the range of Q. It's more on an issue if you try to duel in the Jungle or something where people can outrun your Q range.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#3668
On June 25 2013 05:02 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:55 AsnSensation wrote:
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?


Project M is a mod for Brawl. You download the mod onto an SD card and then you can play it through Brawl Custom Stages (you have to delete any and all custom stages you have for the mod to work).


ah ok thought you guys encourage not purchasing original copies sry ^^

bought my 3ds like 2 years ago only to relive the Ocarina of Time experience and haven't bought a single game or touched it ever since, but while browsing amazon the other day... Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion are games I consider buying to spend my time on the train efficiently.


There is a way to play it without buying the game, but idk what it is. I ain't into that illegal stuff, ya know??

I have OoT and Kid Icarus on 3DS. Luigi's Mansion does look good, and I'm definitely getting one of Pokemon X/Y in October.

On June 25 2013 05:04 kainzero wrote:
I hate it when I play Lissandra and when I try to ult myself, a champion runs in front of my cursor and I end up ulting them instead.

With that said, I still prefer her in top lane where her range isn't a liability.


Alt + R = selfcast
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
June 24 2013 20:09 GMT
#3669
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

I was mainly talking about the single-player mode, not competitive battling, because if you're going to do competitive you're probably going to have to buy the latest gen anyway.

Regarding entrance hazards: they're not all that bad. Spikes has existed since gen 2. Stealth rock is pretty bullshit I agree. If only they'd make more viable rapid spinners~ ... their main problem is that they can't just remove stealth rocks from the game (due to being able to import pokemon from previous gens), but I wouldn't be too surprised if it got a nerf for gen 6.

The one good thing that came out of stealth rocks is that since so many pokemon learn it, you aren't constrained to opening with skarmory/foretress/one of the couple other pokemon that know spikes anymore. Toxic spikes are actually pretty cool because they have the counterplay of being able to send out a grounded poison pokemon to get rid of them. (Maybe if they made rock pokemon absorb stealth rocks when switched in ... hmmm...)

And speaking of annoying in-game stuff, nothing beats needing to farm 9999 coins to get Porygon in Red.


overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 24 2013 20:10 GMT
#3670
@Alaric,
I had trouble understanding exactly what you were asking for other than, "mid laners that I should pick up," and honestly I feel like Ahri is one of the more reliable mids to pick up for solo queue play. Safe laning, decent pushing power/wave clear, mobitility, and lots of burst. I don't think she fits into whatever Viktor's style is but I don't play Viktor enough to make a suggestion of a champion that plays similar to him. I just know that Ahri feels like she was designed for solo queue but she isn't as risky as like LeBlanc or something.

On June 25 2013 05:02 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:55 AsnSensation wrote:
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?


Project M is a mod for Brawl. You download the mod onto an SD card and then you can play it through Brawl Custom Stages (you have to delete any and all custom stages you have for the mod to work).


ah ok thought you guys encourage not purchasing original copies sry ^^

bought my 3ds like 2 years ago only to relive the Ocarina of Time experience and haven't bought a single game or touched it ever since, but while browsing amazon the other day... Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion are games I consider buying to spend my time on the train efficiently.


Animal Crossing New Leaf is really good. Luigi's Mansion is great and is split into really manageable "missions" so you can just do one at a time and then go take a break or just marathon through several. Mario Kart is only good if you have friends to play it with imo. Lots of people like Fire Emblem Awakening, going so far as to say it's the best game on 3DS. I tried it and thought it was just ok.

There are rumors of a Majora's Mask remake for 3DS at some point but nothing concrete. New Smash Bros will come out eventually (and probably be a disappointment). New Pokemon coming to 3DS at some point too. Oh and the most exciting game of all is the sequel to Link to the Past.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 24 2013 20:10 GMT
#3671
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

I've always felt the Platinum was the most satisfying pokemon game, main series wise. I've yet to play B/W2.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 24 2013 20:10 GMT
#3672
On June 25 2013 04:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.


Vitiamin spamming is super lame as well, and if you are evolving an Eevee, the learnset can be screwed up if you level it too much pre-evolution.

In any case, I usually just disfavor things that are grindy/mandatory. Like buying runes in LOL.
Freeeeeeedom
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 24 2013 20:12 GMT
#3673
On June 25 2013 05:02 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:55 AsnSensation wrote:
what you guys talking about 3ds and sd cards, is it possible to hack the thing and play illegal copies?


Project M is a mod for Brawl. You download the mod onto an SD card and then you can play it through Brawl Custom Stages (you have to delete any and all custom stages you have for the mod to work).


ah ok thought you guys encourage not purchasing original copies sry ^^

bought my 3ds like 2 years ago only to relive the Ocarina of Time experience and haven't bought a single game or touched it ever since, but while browsing amazon the other day... Mario Kart and Luigi's Mansion are games I consider buying to spend my time on the train efficiently.

Super Mario 3DS and LoZ were fun, but yeah I mostly use mine for DS games since it lasts forever with the battery pack. Hyped for upcoming games though.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 24 2013 20:12 GMT
#3674
On June 25 2013 05:10 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:57 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.


Vitiamin spamming is super lame as well, and if you are evolving an Eevee, the learnset can be screwed up if you level it too much pre-evolution.

In any case, I usually just disfavor things that are grindy/mandatory. Like buying runes in LOL.

I've just bought one of the three lifesteal quints I'll be buying.
2k IP down la toilette.

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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 24 2013 20:14 GMT
#3675
30 IP until I get my second lifesteal quint. Aren't most adc's running 2 with 1 ad quint?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 24 2013 20:16 GMT
#3676
On June 25 2013 05:10 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:57 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.


Vitiamin spamming is super lame as well, and if you are evolving an Eevee, the learnset can be screwed up if you level it too much pre-evolution.

In any case, I usually just disfavor things that are grindy/mandatory. Like buying runes in LOL.

Well any RPG is going to be grindy at some point or another. Except TWEWY, since you could just adjust your level to fuck with the game.

Also holy shit there's a 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors sequel for 3DS? Fuck. Yes.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 20:19:44
June 24 2013 20:18 GMT
#3677
On June 25 2013 05:14 mordek wrote:
30 IP until I get my second lifesteal quint. Aren't most adc's running 2 with 1 ad quint?

Yes, last I saw anyway. I think it was an interview with some KR ADC, Imp possibly.
On June 25 2013 05:16 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:10 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:57 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.


Vitiamin spamming is super lame as well, and if you are evolving an Eevee, the learnset can be screwed up if you level it too much pre-evolution.

In any case, I usually just disfavor things that are grindy/mandatory. Like buying runes in LOL.

Well any RPG is going to be grindy at some point or another. Except TWEWY, since you could just adjust your level to fuck with the game.

Also holy shit there's a 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors sequel for 3DS? Fuck. Yes.

It's a crime I still haven't played it yet. Now we just need a TWEWY sequel and I'm set forever.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 24 2013 20:19 GMT
#3678
On June 25 2013 05:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On June 25 2013 05:14 mordek wrote:
30 IP until I get my second lifesteal quint. Aren't most adc's running 2 with 1 ad quint?

Yes, last I saw anyway. I think it was an interview with some KR ADC, Imp possibly.

Welp fine with me, I can save up 2k IP to finish off the last 5 champs I don't own....like Yorick....shudder
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Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 20:21:16
June 24 2013 20:20 GMT
#3679
On June 25 2013 04:35 Alaric wrote:
TL!
I need you. Despite lacking a sexy hat. Viktor is great, Viktor is cool, Viktor is the nth coming of whatever blew your mind the n-1 previous times. But Viktor alone isn't enough.
We're still in a Starcraft forum after all, so I'm looking to expand, and other stuff involving pools. However I am not Max and I'd rather take things slowly.

So there are all those cool champions which I already own and love, because it'd be too easy to let you get away with "Play whatever you feel like playing". Something that doesn't make shoot my own foot, and also something that'd ideally complement Viktor well.
(Viktor: strong trading and pressure at early levels, impossible to push past level 7, good roaming, powerful poke/burst during his midgame peak which he reaches faster than most; low effective range, hugely ult-reliant, falls off earlier than most and somewhat hard, no instant cc (only an interrupt) nor initiation potential.)

Leaves me with Brand, Cassiopeia, Morgana, Orianna, Ryze, Swain, Syndra, Talon.
+ Show Spoiler +
  • Ryze isn't as fun (playstyle more than gameplay) and Talon is pretty binary, so I'm wary about relying on them.
  • The others are all vulnerable to mobility to an extent, Swain excepted. Brand, Cass, Swain have low effective/optimal-range and have trouble dealing with ranged pushers (Lux, etc.) once those get enough damage. Both weaknesses are shared with Viktor.
  • Cassiopeia, Syndra and to a lesser extent Orianna have a pretty high skill floor (but skill-ceiling, thus fun potential, too).
    Morgana and Swain are vulnerable to shove and have trouble farming once the teams start grouping.
  • Morgana, Cassiopeia and Orianna have game-changing ults. Morgana is more reliant on it than the others.
  • Syndra (depending on playstyle), Orianna (and a badly played Cassiopeia) lack huge initial burst, but their low cooldowns ensure a good sustained damage output that makes them scale well late game.
  • Either natively or with Rylai, they're all good at kiting and peeling for teammates from decent range.

Apart from the obvious stuff (weak to mobility so Kass/Ahri/etc. annoying, strong against early-level Lux/TF/etc., Orianna is a safe fp, yadda-yadda) I lack knowledge of match-ups and dynamics with those champs, and I'm not yet too sure about which are bad for Viktor (tbh unless you're facing LB or Veigar the enemy jungler has more impact than the match-up), so I'm not really sure which one would go well with him.

Who's a good candidate to cover my favourite cyborg's back? D:

orianna. hands down one of the most satisfying and fun champions to play. my goto mid champion by a large margin
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 24 2013 20:23 GMT
#3680
On June 25 2013 05:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:14 mordek wrote:
30 IP until I get my second lifesteal quint. Aren't most adc's running 2 with 1 ad quint?

Yes, last I saw anyway. I think it was an interview with some KR ADC, Imp possibly.
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:16 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 05:10 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:57 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:49 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:27 thenexusp wrote:
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Black/white is pretty fun. I guess black/white 2 came out but I never got those since they seemed to similar to black/white

I'd generally get the newest pokemon available (you said you have SS so I assume you own a DS already), since they make small improvements to the engine each generation, and they're pretty minor things but you will notice if you play a really new game vs. a really old game. Like how starting in B/W they made TMs reusable (like HMs) and now I can't stand TMs from older games anymore. In general Pokemon doesn't get worse* (since they basically reuse the same formula every time) and anyone that says that it does is just living false nostalgia.



* except for the massive surfing section in R/S/E, like man, what the hell

Eh. A lot of the added "complexity" of the newer games doesn't enhance the experience at all.

On the battle side I find entrance hazards a bit tedious. Its a bit like L-Cancelling in Melle (Caution, unpopular opinion incoming). Yes I can do it, yes it helps separate scrubs from elite players, but no it doesn't really add new things to the game like wavedashing does (IMO it should just be automatic). And it pisses you off for the first hour you play Melle after a long break (then you have to stop playing anyways because it fatigues your hands at like twice the rate you otherwise would have).

Some of the other out of combat stuff is also annoying. Like needing to get tons of happiness on Eevee just to get some of the evolutions. Is there anything less fun than happiness farming?

You can happiness farm by having them in combat though? Or just buy Vitamins and boost stats at the same time.

I like a lot of the outside stuff. I liked the underground digging thing in 4, I like hatching eggs (unless you're doing really grindy shit like shiny farming, it's fun having an egg and eventually while adventuring it hatches), berry farming kind of sucked, but whatever. Contests are balls to me, but I know that a lot of people liked them, and I spent so much time in Game Corners over the last decade or so.


Vitiamin spamming is super lame as well, and if you are evolving an Eevee, the learnset can be screwed up if you level it too much pre-evolution.

In any case, I usually just disfavor things that are grindy/mandatory. Like buying runes in LOL.

Well any RPG is going to be grindy at some point or another. Except TWEWY, since you could just adjust your level to fuck with the game.

Also holy shit there's a 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors sequel for 3DS? Fuck. Yes.

It's a crime I still haven't played it yet. Now we just need a TWEWY sequel and I'm set forever.

999 is one of my favorite VNs of all time. Mainly because I haven't really played any other mystery ones. It had its faults, but I'm hyped as hell to go get this new one + Show Spoiler +
and let it set on my unplayed games shelf next to 20 other games
It's your boy Guzma!
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