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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
this patch did somethine and now sometimes my spells dont fire when i try to use them this way. I havent figured out what it is. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:07 LaNague wrote: is anyone else using ctrl+q etc for smartcasting? this patch did somethine and now sometimes my spells dont fire when i try to use them this way. I havent figured out what it is. I've noticed that alt+q/w/e/r for self-casting seems delayed. I don't know what it is, but it's really weird. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On June 20 2013 09:29 NeoIllusions wrote: Pretty sure TL LoL is actually pretty old. What Kupon3ss said is correct. But we gained some new faces in the last few months. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 20 2013 08:57 MoonBear wrote: One of the issues that comes to mind is that by setting your own jungler behind, it removes the amount of pressure they can put on the lanes. The enemy will be able to immediately identify this the moment they see your lanes have buffs but didn't steal it from them. The lack of jungler pressure means that your lanes will need to play more defensively as a result as the opposing jungler will have greater influence - which just removes the lane pressure you obtained in the first place by getting buffs. Giving buffs to the lanes has been done in the LCS before but generally it's something along the lines of your jungler starting Red or stealing an enemy buff and one of your solo laners takes your Blue Buff. The Blue Buff solo laner is generally someone who can farm safely from a distance (Karthus and Olaf have been examples) who then takes a 1v2 lane which helps neutralise some of the pressure in the 1v2 lane while also letting you apply harder pressure in your 2v1 lane. The main question though that comes to mind is if you're want to get greater lane presence due to a buff, why not just steal it from the enemy rather than sacrificing your own? First and foremost, in high level play you can't really guarantee what will happen at level 1. Most games involve either mutual theft or a minor skirmish. Even when nothing in particular happens at level 1, invasions are risky and require team coordination to avoid an easy first blood for the opposing team. You can't really guarantee that you'll get 3/4ths of the buffs unless there's a huge level 1 strength disparity, a decisively won skirmish/first blood, or just pure apathy from the enemy (and even in these circumstances it can be chancy). Secondly, it's not as huge a loss for the jungler as you might think. They'll still hit 3 in fairly short order clearing the small camps, and so long as whichever buff they lack isn't vital to their ability to gank it's not as though they can't punish an overaggressive lane. Finally, the amount of immediate pressure that can be applied is considerable, given the right matchup. While some small amount of global pressure may be lost, the drastically increased pressure mid and the control it can give your team has great value. Pressure in one location has global ramifications anyway. Ketara and I have actually tested this a couple of times, passing Red to Kayle mid, double level 2 ganking to take the enemy mid out of the picture (provide Ketara didn't murder his opponent solo), and finish with a jungle invasion to secure another buff. It's not foolproof and has kinks/counters, but it's not an idea that can or should be dismissed. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:13 Chexx wrote: But we gained some new faces in the last few months. cant help but try out the #1 most played game in the world with an active playerbase of 32 million players and counting | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:02 MoonBear wrote: So it seems that Zhonyas results in 0 CD for on-hit spells. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAtzQyhB-vs WOW If this works on Poppy it'll be the most OP thing ever! | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:09 GolemMadness wrote: I've noticed that alt+q/w/e/r for self-casting seems delayed. I don't know what it is, but it's really weird. Alt to self-cast is awful, I swear I have to cast some abilities like 3 times before they go off. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:22 Shikyo wrote: WOW If this works on Poppy it'll be the most OP thing ever! I think it goes away if you hit anything but a tower. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:24 Alzadar wrote: I think it goes away if you hit anything but a tower. Oh I know that, but her Q laugh is much better than her control + 4 EDIT: nope she doesn't laugh when you do that. I guess they knew it'd be OP. Speaking of Poppy why is she not viable? Everyone around her gets nerfed hard so hrm | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
What a butt whoopin. That Zed became a drive-by shooting every minute. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
See ShakeDrizzle on his team. "Eh, Lee Sin's a good ban". I actually laughed. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On June 20 2013 09:24 Kupon3ss wrote: The of LoL centers around the average on TL most likely because very few of us came here for LoL, much of the population are BW veterans who've switched as opposed to people who started out playing LoL and then somehow found TL. Haha so true :p Edit: Mandatory dae remember 1998, fuck I'm old! | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:25 Shikyo wrote: Oh I know that, but her Q laugh is much better than her control + 4 EDIT: nope she doesn't laugh when you do that. I guess they knew it'd be OP. Speaking of Poppy why is she not viable? Everyone around her gets nerfed hard so hrm Can't really 1v2, crappy wave clear, and hard to lane. But if you could figure out a safe place to stick her til she hits 5k gold or w/e, it's free sailing. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 20 2013 12:05 Amui wrote: Can't really 1v2, crappy wave clear, and hard to lane. But if you could figure out a safe place to stick her til she hits 5k gold or w/e, it's free sailing. I'd have thought that she can 1v2 all right because she can lasthit well under turret, shrugs off AD harrass, and is immune to towerdiving. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
People can just force objectives on your team all day until you have like 3 items and level 11. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 20 2013 11:39 emperorchampion wrote: Haha so true :p Edit: Mandatory dae remember 1998, fuck I'm old! In the fine print to sign up for TL it says you need to have used at least a 3.5" floppy disk in your life. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 20 2013 12:24 cLutZ wrote: I've never really seen the legendary end game poppy. pretty brutal if she comes out of lane fed or with decent farm. if you get hit into a wall with her ult on you its lights out. you'll go from 100-dead before you even get a chance to hit a button. and half the time even if you dont get hit into a wall you still go from 100-dead before you get a chance to hit a button | ||
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