On May 22 2013 11:58 101toss wrote:
or you send draven bot and he snowballs anyways
or you send draven bot and he snowballs anyways
I wasn't even talking about blue ezreal bot >.< afk farm mid is just as if not even more stupider.
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
May 22 2013 02:59 GMT
#1821
On May 22 2013 11:58 101toss wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 11:52 dae wrote: Blue Ezreal is stupid. His existence invalidates entire teamcomps. You basically need to have a super range hypercarry or long range assassin or you will lose lategame to him. or you send draven bot and he snowballs anyways I wasn't even talking about blue ezreal bot >.< afk farm mid is just as if not even more stupider. | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
May 22 2013 03:16 GMT
#1822
On May 22 2013 11:52 dae wrote: Blue Ezreal is stupid. His existence invalidates entire teamcomps. How so? | ||
cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
May 22 2013 03:16 GMT
#1823
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2013 03:19 GMT
#1824
The build is pretty bad until it gets rolling so it feels like a waste of a mid, he also has 0 clear. | ||
justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
May 22 2013 03:23 GMT
#1825
On May 22 2013 12:16 cLutZ wrote: Blue Ez mid is better than bot anyways. Get blues > Stack tear faster. Jungle item makes wraiths ez pz. You get to have a high damage AD Carry lategame. AND MORE! i main ad and kinda disagree that BluEZ does more dmg at late game BluEZ pros: high mana kite well low CD AOE dmg cons: no attk spd no crit low AD --------------------- = = normal ez pros: high sustain high attk spd crit poke from statik shiv cons: cant kite as much as BluEZ need manage CD well | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
May 22 2013 03:26 GMT
#1826
Of course, they've been wrong about math before! | ||
cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
May 22 2013 03:26 GMT
#1827
On May 22 2013 12:19 Shikyo wrote: blue ez is like the very lowest dmg adc out of them all so calling him a high damage AD carry... The build is pretty bad until it gets rolling so it feels like a waste of a mid, he also has 0 clear. On May 22 2013 12:23 justiceknight wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 12:16 cLutZ wrote: Blue Ez mid is better than bot anyways. Get blues > Stack tear faster. Jungle item makes wraiths ez pz. You get to have a high damage AD Carry lategame. AND MORE! i main ad and kinda disagree that BluEZ does more dmg at late game BluEZ pros: high mana kite well low CD AOE dmg cons: no attk spd no crit low AD --------------------- = = normal ez pros: high sustain high attk spd crit poke from statik shiv cons: cant kite as much as BluEZ need manage CD well Your high damage AD Carry would be botlane... Clear is his only big problem. | ||
Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
May 22 2013 03:31 GMT
#1828
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
May 22 2013 03:38 GMT
#1829
I need to go back to basics. Lose 12 ranked games in a row. Feel like death. Took brief hiatus, and now I just playing absolutely awfully. Just absolutely awful. I making the stupidest decisions, and I can feel and realize i doing something awful I just like... do it anyway. Used to happen to me all the time in broodwar, and I'd just start a fresh account and go from D again, but I dont have the time now a days to level an account to 30. -.- Anyone have any suggestions for just... refocusing yourself? | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
May 22 2013 03:41 GMT
#1830
On May 22 2013 12:31 Chrispy wrote: Blue Ez is fun, unique and it's made Ezreal playable again. IMO the emergence of blue ez in solo queue has to do with the fact it accentuates everything fun about his kit. Skill shot based champion that can kite super hard. The blue build allows for infinite Q's to be tossed out in a timely manner, and allows him to flash around. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
May 22 2013 03:43 GMT
#1831
On May 22 2013 12:38 iCanada wrote: Fuuu.. I need to go back to basics. Lose 12 ranked games in a row. Feel like death. Took brief hiatus, and now I just playing absolutely awfully. Just absolutely awful. I making the stupidest decisions, and I can feel and realize i doing something awful I just like... do it anyway. Used to happen to me all the time in broodwar, and I'd just start a fresh account and go from D again, but I dont have the time now a days to level an account to 30. -.- Anyone have any suggestions for just... refocusing yourself? Play other games. When I go on tilt, I find it's best to walk away and focus on something else. I guess you can read a book or watch a movie or something, but I tear through single player games when I get angry. Working through the Batman games now :D + Show Spoiler + I AM THE NIGHT | ||
ketchup
14521 Posts
May 22 2013 04:11 GMT
#1832
On May 22 2013 12:38 iCanada wrote: Fuuu.. I need to go back to basics. Lose 12 ranked games in a row. Feel like death. Took brief hiatus, and now I just playing absolutely awfully. Just absolutely awful. I making the stupidest decisions, and I can feel and realize i doing something awful I just like... do it anyway. Used to happen to me all the time in broodwar, and I'd just start a fresh account and go from D again, but I dont have the time now a days to level an account to 30. -.- Anyone have any suggestions for just... refocusing yourself? Play ARAM if you were on break imo. You get used to team fights and focusing. Then you can do the rest in normals/ranked mode. | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
May 22 2013 04:16 GMT
#1833
On May 22 2013 12:38 iCanada wrote: Fuuu.. I need to go back to basics. Lose 12 ranked games in a row. Feel like death. Took brief hiatus, and now I just playing absolutely awfully. Just absolutely awful. I making the stupidest decisions, and I can feel and realize i doing something awful I just like... do it anyway. Used to happen to me all the time in broodwar, and I'd just start a fresh account and go from D again, but I dont have the time now a days to level an account to 30. -.- Anyone have any suggestions for just... refocusing yourself? rest. | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
May 22 2013 04:31 GMT
#1834
Ofc now every Ez I see in soloq go Blue Build, even vs. comps where I imagine it would suck balls in (Double AP or Vayne/Kog + Orianna/Anivia with beefy frontlines who just stand there to protect Vayne/Kog). | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
May 22 2013 04:32 GMT
#1835
On May 22 2013 11:48 obesechicken13 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 10:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: On May 22 2013 08:40 xes wrote: On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not randuins is expensive as all fuck for what it gives you but its utility isn't really something you can price in gold gold efficiency is a pretty dumb metric imo You saw people use gold efficiency on this board all the time as evidence for build before people started putting gold values on this wiki. Back then philo was bought quite often as well and an argument was always made that it was the best gp10 because it was gold efficient without the passive. And every single time I had an argument with someone they'd bring up gold and I'd bring up that you can't price some things in gold We had this argument about IBG on Ezreal before Blue Ez was a thing and everyone was telling me it was horrible gold efficiency WELL SHIT I GUESS I WAS WRONG | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
May 22 2013 04:33 GMT
#1836
On May 22 2013 10:04 Scip wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 10:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: On May 22 2013 08:40 xes wrote: On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not randuins is expensive as all fuck for what it gives you but its utility isn't really something you can price in gold gold efficiency is a pretty dumb metric imo This reminds me of a conversation I had a loooong time ago with bly08 bly08: You don't compare items just based on their cost efficiency Scip: of course you do, what else would you compare them by? bly08: like, by what they do IIRC both of us advocated Sunfire before nerf and IBG on Ez before blue build | ||
kainzero
United States5211 Posts
May 22 2013 05:09 GMT
#1837
On May 22 2013 10:04 Scip wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 10:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: On May 22 2013 08:40 xes wrote: On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not randuins is expensive as all fuck for what it gives you but its utility isn't really something you can price in gold gold efficiency is a pretty dumb metric imo This reminds me of a conversation I had a loooong time ago with bly08 bly08: You don't compare items just based on their cost efficiency Scip: of course you do, what else would you compare them by? bly08: like, by what they do i miss bly dude was smart | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
May 22 2013 05:15 GMT
#1838
On May 22 2013 13:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2013 10:04 Scip wrote: On May 22 2013 10:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: On May 22 2013 08:40 xes wrote: On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not randuins is expensive as all fuck for what it gives you but its utility isn't really something you can price in gold gold efficiency is a pretty dumb metric imo This reminds me of a conversation I had a loooong time ago with bly08 bly08: You don't compare items just based on their cost efficiency Scip: of course you do, what else would you compare them by? bly08: like, by what they do IIRC both of us advocated Sunfire before nerf and IBG on Ez before blue build IBG on Ez; pre-blue build was for a slightly different reason than because of the current blue build. | ||
kainzero
United States5211 Posts
May 22 2013 05:19 GMT
#1839
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
May 22 2013 05:52 GMT
#1840
Can we have a "how to get better at this game" discussion? | ||
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