EPTWas it? I thought it wasn't because it and Tyrant Swain already were on sale in last January. Eh, maybe I just dun goofed again.
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Was it? I thought it wasn't because it and Tyrant Swain already were on sale in last January. Eh, maybe I just dun goofed again. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:13 Alaric wrote: Was it? I thought it wasn't because it and Tyrant Swain already were on sale in last January. Eh, maybe I just dun goofed again. Fairly certain cause I have blackthorn and I definitely didn't have RP last January | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
every time i want to play, the server doesnt work. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:13 Alaric wrote: Was it? I thought it wasn't because it and Tyrant Swain already were on sale in last January. Eh, maybe I just dun goofed again. January 10th, 2013 | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
So, yeah, didn't have RP at that time (well, not enough for those skins) and since I received some by mistake I decided I'd wait for interesting skins to go on sale since I don't plan on buying more RP. >> | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? Eh, Wriggles is cost effective I guess if you desperatly want Armor, AD, and lifesteal. But I'd say it more cost effective to say just buy 2 dorans rblades . | ||
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Simberto
Germany11484 Posts
Wriggles is pretty much as cost efficient as base items if you ignore the lantern thingy and the passive. The passive is worthless toplane, and then lantern is ok, i guess, but if you really want wards that much then you'd better buy Sightstone in my opinion. Usually just 1-2 wards each back is a better solution. I can't remember when i ever saw someone build one toplane. I think it was popular in season 1 when it was way stronger, or something like that, but i didn't play back then. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? not really. all the combined items in lol are cost efficient; from their basic counterparts. Wriggles isn't any more significant in cost efficiency; but more importantly it's not slot efficient. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:07 NeoIllusions wrote: I prefer Karate myself. Arctic has a cool shuriken particle though. Kunai I think? ironic I like Arctic. New particles are always win. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:30 FinestHour wrote: is wriggles a decent pickup for top laners? my friend was telling me about the cost efficiency of the item as well as the spirit stone items, are they matchup specific or pretty safe item to go for most of the time? It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:40 xes wrote: It's efficient compared to stacking Cloth Armors and Longswords but pretty much awful compared to Cutlass. Item efficiency should be compared to the relative levels you could get from spending your gold elsewhere; it doesn't really matter than X item is gold-efficient because practically every item in the game is gold-efficient. The stats should be compared real items as a baseline. For example, Rageblade is efficient compared to stacking Blasting Wands, but for a AD/AP hybrid items, the baseline should be Hexetech Revolver. i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:06 sung_moon wrote: Just played a normal where I was Janna with a Graves vs a Cait/Sona lane. Besides timing my shields to counter Sona/Cait pokes and then walking forward to get some autos in, we were pretty much pushed to tower from level 2, missed CS under tower, and overall got bullied hard. Didn't help that our jungler wasn't ganking bot either. Also some moments I felt he could of bursted Sona dangerously low when she went to poke but w/e. Basically what I'm saying is, was there anything really Janna can do vs Sona/strong laning ADC besides time shields vs her poke, disrupt with Q, and wait for ganks? It's the adc that have to do the work, not you. I think what you could do is to time your whirlwind when the enemy got slow by Grave's bomb. For example, Grave hangs around to get 10 charge armor, then dash and spam QW, you time your whirlwind to knock somebody up so that Graves can auto attack that person. 10 charge of armor + shield + bonus damage + slow = deadly. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not Pretty sure they're both gold efficient, but it wouldn't surprise me if ohmwrecker is more gold efficient than randuins. It's still kinda bad tho. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Banner of Command is in a real similar situation. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
No one actually pays that much for mana regen because when you think "hmm I need mana regen" you don't stack Faerie Charms, you get a Chalice. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On May 22 2013 08:42 101toss wrote: i hear ohmwrecker is gold efficient and randuins is not Randuins isn't efficient if you only look at Health and Armor. If you put ZERO VALUE on the AS/MS slow-when-attacked AND on the active, it's gold inefficient. Anyone who analyzes gold efficiency like that is stupid. Also, yeah - the wiki values 1 HP5 at 36g. Nobody would buy rejuv beads past the opening build except if they build into things - 5 HP5 is NOT worth 180g on paper. Also, any item that builds out of a rejuv bead gets a regen upgrade "for free" but regen scales poorly as the game goes on because you don't have constant low damage trading attrition fights like you do in early laning. Likewise, mana regen doesn't scale well either because "at some point you have all the mana you want" (this may involve blue buff for some) Also, Chalice is like 2 billion gold if you compare it to stacking Faerie charms. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
1. Its active is useful in the early game and progressively gets more worthless 2. It has buttloads of regen which is just bad and gets worse later in the game So clearly it is an Item you would want to get ASAP, yet 3. It costs 3k 4. It is middling AP and health, who are you going to buy it on? Its terrible 1st item compared to a SS item the jungler needs to clear, sightstone which a support needs to ward, or ROA if you want that type of stats on a mid. The thing is that Riot doesn't want early turret diving, they were really unhappy about all the 3 man volibear dives and stuff when that was really popular, so we get this bipolar useless item that they really don't want us to use at all. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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