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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 19 2013 04:55 GMT
#1001
On May 19 2013 13:53 Fionn wrote:
I really wish Riot would make Smite a Level 8+ summoner spell. I've now had three straight games of players wanting to play jungler and realizing it doesn't work as a new player without runes.


You basically can play nunu, and warwick if you want to jungle easily with no runes or masteries, with 100% chance of success even if you get zero help. Most other junglers will need to base too much to be effective without runes or masteries.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 19 2013 04:55 GMT
#1002
On May 19 2013 13:53 Fionn wrote:
I really wish Riot would make Smite a Level 8+ summoner spell. I've now had three straight games of players wanting to play jungler and realizing it doesn't work as a new player without runes.


Even if you play a jungler like Warwick or Nunu new players fail really hard in 1v2 lanes. Hell most people who smurf fail really hard in a 1v2 lane.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 19 2013 04:59 GMT
#1003
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.
R11
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada213 Posts
May 19 2013 05:02 GMT
#1004
On May 19 2013 13:19 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:12 R11 wrote:
Watching OMG vs WE right now, can't help but feel the style of play seems quite similar to Chinese DotA.

they also run AOE hard engages with a hyper carry?


IMO the current meta for league favours aggression and snowballing map control yet the Chinese don't seem to mind split map farming for longer durations and taking to the late game. Reminds me of carries in DotA where they just farm one lane, TP to another, farm some more but never really engage unless completely necessary. Curious how this style will do against the Koreans.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 05:03:33
May 19 2013 05:02 GMT
#1005
On May 19 2013 13:53 Fionn wrote:
I really wish Riot would make Smite a Level 8+ summoner spell. I've now had three straight games of players wanting to play jungler and realizing it doesn't work as a new player without runes.

unfortunately, you're on smurf island, legit new players don't run into people trying to jungle until level 20s at least

And double unfortunately you're on the version of smurf island where all the smurfs' mains are low bronze, so you're not actually that much better off than an actual new player


Also, I feel like this should be said: if you don't want to deal with the stupidity of new players, you shouldn't make new accounts.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 19 2013 05:12 GMT
#1006
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

could be accent/regional thing.

but I've personally never heard any chinese speaker use yao for one.
liftlift > tsm
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 19 2013 05:13 GMT
#1007
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.


you use yao when reading out a string of numbers (phone numbers, ticket numbers etc). yi is for the 'pure' definition of one as just 'one', used primarily in counting (counting up, counting down, counting objects, as part of larger numbers 100 for yi bai etc)

another confusing one would be er (2) and liang
cool beans
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 05:23:47
May 19 2013 05:16 GMT
#1008
On May 19 2013 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

could be accent/regional thing.

but I've personally never heard any chinese speaker use yao for one.


It's the same person saying it both times, I've heard it done before such as when the year is called as in "er ling yao san nian". I've only recently started hearing it in use (probably ~2010 when they started saying yao for the 1 was when I first noticed it.)

I'm not a native mandarin speaker (I speak cantonese) so there's only one "one", no differentiation in the contexts of use.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 19 2013 05:24 GMT
#1009
On May 19 2013 13:53 Fionn wrote:
I really wish Riot would make Smite a Level 8+ summoner spell. I've now had three straight games of players wanting to play jungler and realizing it doesn't work as a new player without runes.


Why do people still say that? You can jungle a decent chunk of champions without runes/masteries. Hell I jungle Diana on my lvl 12 smurf and have been since lvl 4.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 19 2013 05:24 GMT
#1010
On May 19 2013 14:16 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

could be accent/regional thing.

but I've personally never heard any chinese speaker use yao for one.


It's the same person saying it both times, I've heard it done before such as when the year is called as in "er ling yao san nian". I've only recently started hearing it in use (probably ~2010 when they started saying yao for the 1 was when I first noticed it.)

I'm a chinese speaker (cantonese) so there's only one "one", no differentiation in the contexts of use.


er ok you're right there's no difference cos cantonese chinese is the only chinese in the world
cool beans
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
May 19 2013 05:25 GMT
#1011
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

It's like in English where people say "O" instead of "zero". "Class of O Eight" vs "Three, Two, One, Zero"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 19 2013 05:28 GMT
#1012
On May 19 2013 14:24 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:16 Lmui wrote:
On May 19 2013 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

could be accent/regional thing.

but I've personally never heard any chinese speaker use yao for one.


It's the same person saying it both times, I've heard it done before such as when the year is called as in "er ling yao san nian". I've only recently started hearing it in use (probably ~2010 when they started saying yao for the 1 was when I first noticed it.)

I'm a chinese speaker (cantonese) so there's only one "one", no differentiation in the contexts of use.


er ok you're right there's no difference cos cantonese chinese is the only chinese in the world

lol; well as a semi-mandarin speaker; i have no clue of the usage of yao. weird.
liftlift > tsm
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
May 19 2013 05:31 GMT
#1013
On May 19 2013 14:28 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:24 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On May 19 2013 14:16 Lmui wrote:
On May 19 2013 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.

could be accent/regional thing.

but I've personally never heard any chinese speaker use yao for one.


It's the same person saying it both times, I've heard it done before such as when the year is called as in "er ling yao san nian". I've only recently started hearing it in use (probably ~2010 when they started saying yao for the 1 was when I first noticed it.)

I'm a chinese speaker (cantonese) so there's only one "one", no differentiation in the contexts of use.


er ok you're right there's no difference cos cantonese chinese is the only chinese in the world

lol; well as a semi-mandarin speaker; i have no clue of the usage of yao. weird.



yao is just another way to say one. same meaning as yi
liang and er is not a good example because you dont say "er ge" (possessive i think), like "ta you er ge something", you say "liang ge" there
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 19 2013 05:36 GMT
#1014
On May 19 2013 14:02 R11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:19 caelym wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:12 R11 wrote:
Watching OMG vs WE right now, can't help but feel the style of play seems quite similar to Chinese DotA.

they also run AOE hard engages with a hyper carry?


IMO the current meta for league favours aggression and snowballing map control yet the Chinese don't seem to mind split map farming for longer durations and taking to the late game. Reminds me of carries in DotA where they just farm one lane, TP to another, farm some more but never really engage unless completely necessary. Curious how this style will do against the Koreans.

this is both inaccurate for chinese dota as well as chinese lol
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 19 2013 05:57 GMT
#1015
On May 19 2013 14:36 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:02 R11 wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:19 caelym wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:12 R11 wrote:
Watching OMG vs WE right now, can't help but feel the style of play seems quite similar to Chinese DotA.

they also run AOE hard engages with a hyper carry?


IMO the current meta for league favours aggression and snowballing map control yet the Chinese don't seem to mind split map farming for longer durations and taking to the late game. Reminds me of carries in DotA where they just farm one lane, TP to another, farm some more but never really engage unless completely necessary. Curious how this style will do against the Koreans.

this is both inaccurate for chinese dota as well as chinese lol



Yeah I was confused as hell wtf he meant. The only similarity between Chinese DoTA and LoL is that they are amazing at farm distribution and finding farm.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 19 2013 05:58 GMT
#1016
my first game of league was pre-season 1, played blitz because i liked pudge in dota and assumed he'd be the same. people would just walk right up to the outer limit of my tower and let me pull them in LOL. i probably didn't even go for a creep kill all game, i ended up like 25-1 and built random ass items

then almost immediately after i started playing only twisted treeline with my friends, and then immediately after that played exclusively shen until 30
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
May 19 2013 06:09 GMT
#1017
If you're leveling up a low-level account I'd suggest playing with full 5 premade with friends. You can have fun doing whatever you want and it makes the process a bit less of a chore. Although it gets to a point when you pretty much only get matched vs other premade 5 smurf teams so it ends up being a normal game except nobody has runes/masteries and having flash means you're a big shot.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
May 19 2013 06:11 GMT
#1018
omg vs ig link?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 06:14:34
May 19 2013 06:13 GMT
#1019
On May 19 2013 14:13 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:59 Lmui wrote:
slightly off topic but during the WE/OMG game I hear the announcers calling out the ticket numbers as

"er yao yao san" or something like that. What's the logic behind saying "yao" for one rather than "yi"? The same announcer used "san er yi" as a countdown to when the next ticket would be drawn.


. yi is for the 'pure' definition of one as just 'one', used primarily in counting (counting up, counting down, counting objects, as part of larger numbers 100 for yi bai etc)

another confusing one would be er (2) and liang


You use yao(1) when reading out a string of numbers (phone numbers, ticket numbers etc) This is to prevent confusion with chi(7). It is entirely acceptable to use yi(1) instead of yao when reading out a string of numbers. Yi is used everywhere else. (such as counting (counting up, counting down, counting objects, as part of larger numbers yi bai(100) etc))

Good luck with that pro team nyx, though unless it is sgs inviting you i wouldn't bother. 0 payout.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 19 2013 06:20 GMT
#1020
On May 19 2013 15:11 nosliw wrote:
omg vs ig link?



http://lol.tga.plu.cn/vod/2013-05-17/10052.html
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