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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#901
On May 19 2013 02:27 57 Corvette wrote:
aand there goes the NA servers.

Whoo! I just missed it! :D

Also nice to know I can change item sets to groups of champions. I'd still like a copy feature though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 18 2013 17:51 GMT
#902
Never mind came back and won lololol

Yeti stronk
It's your boy Guzma!
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
May 18 2013 17:53 GMT
#903
Wtf I just got a "leave" on a game where I got kicked off the server and couldn't reconnect...
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
May 18 2013 18:06 GMT
#904
On May 19 2013 02:53 upperbound wrote:
Wtf I just got a "leave" on a game where I got kicked off the server and couldn't reconnect...

Had that too
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14041 Posts
May 18 2013 18:10 GMT
#905
I'm playing just fine on the na server I don't know what you guys are talking about.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 18:16 GMT
#906
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 18:19:41
May 18 2013 18:19 GMT
#907
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#908
And he said just then that it was replaced by vman, so... yeah, qtpie trolling.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#909
On May 19 2013 03:19 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.


qtpie's going to start his own boyband i heard.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#910
On May 19 2013 03:45 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:19 nafta wrote:
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.


qtpie's going to start his own boyband i heard.

You mean hairband, right? Lol
liftlift > tsm
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#911
Has anyone taken the effort to map out ad needed to last hit under tower at different stages of the game? Seems like something that someone would do and if a link would magically appear in gd that would be pretty awesome.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14041 Posts
May 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#912
There was that rumored lane swap from clg that might be the annoucement.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:00:52
May 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#913
On May 19 2013 03:50 Schwopzi wrote:
Has anyone taken the effort to map out ad needed to last hit under tower at different stages of the game? Seems like something that someone would do and if a link would magically appear in gd that would be pretty awesome.

Melee minions is 2 tower shots and 1 auto attack. At all levels I think. Ranged minions is 1 tower shot and 2 auto attacks. Only one aa if you have vamp sceptre and flat ad runes.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:04:09
May 18 2013 19:03 GMT
#914
I don't know what you're talking about. Its 2 + 2 for melee or 1 + 2 for casters until you reach a certain AD threshold. However, I'm pretty confident that threshold continually changes as the game progresses, but an AD will effectively always be well ahead of that mark once they eclipse it for the first time.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 19:05 GMT
#915
Without any AD runes Ashe doesn't have enough by herself to last hit under tower is what I know.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 19:10 GMT
#916
Was it 2+2? Maybe I was mistaken cuz my own minions manage to do some dmg.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 18 2013 19:38 GMT
#917
Outer Turrets have 152+4/min AD, with 30% Armor Pen
Melee Minions have 445+20/3 min HP and 0+2/3 min Armor
Ranged Minions have 280 +15/3 min HP and 0+1.25/min Armor

So at 0/3/6/9/12 minutes (ignoring the fact that Minion stats change at x:00 and Turret stats change at x:40):
Melee minions have 141/144/147/150/153 HP leftover after 2 tower hits
Ranged minions have 128/132/136/140/144 HP leftover after 2 tower hits

So Craton is right. It's 2+2 and 1+2 until you pass the relevant AD thresholds and after that your AD growth far outstrips the rate at which the threshold goes up.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11616 Posts
May 18 2013 19:43 GMT
#918
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
May 18 2013 19:45 GMT
#919
On May 19 2013 04:43 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.

He's also the most faceroll champion in the game -_-
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 19:47 GMT
#920
On May 19 2013 04:43 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.

That is grossly exaggerated imo. This was probably more true before rework. But in s3 you can shut him down pretty hard. He's still hard to stop if he snowballs, but its hard for ryze to start the snowball.
liftlift > tsm
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