• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:27
CEST 10:27
KST 17:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid22
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2255 users

[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 351 Next
Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#901
On May 19 2013 02:27 57 Corvette wrote:
aand there goes the NA servers.

Whoo! I just missed it! :D

Also nice to know I can change item sets to groups of champions. I'd still like a copy feature though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 18 2013 17:51 GMT
#902
Never mind came back and won lololol

Yeti stronk
It's your boy Guzma!
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
May 18 2013 17:53 GMT
#903
Wtf I just got a "leave" on a game where I got kicked off the server and couldn't reconnect...
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
May 18 2013 18:06 GMT
#904
On May 19 2013 02:53 upperbound wrote:
Wtf I just got a "leave" on a game where I got kicked off the server and couldn't reconnect...

Had that too
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
May 18 2013 18:10 GMT
#905
I'm playing just fine on the na server I don't know what you guys are talking about.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 18:16 GMT
#906
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 18:19:41
May 18 2013 18:19 GMT
#907
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#908
And he said just then that it was replaced by vman, so... yeah, qtpie trolling.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#909
On May 19 2013 03:19 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.


qtpie's going to start his own boyband i heard.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 18:49 GMT
#910
On May 19 2013 03:45 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:19 nafta wrote:
On May 19 2013 03:16 Alaric wrote:
qtpie's saying the NA announcement is him getting kicked from Dignitas. Then again people say he's a troll, so...


Well (yesterday I think it was) he said he was kicked from dignitas and replaced by fabby which was rather hilarious :D.


qtpie's going to start his own boyband i heard.

You mean hairband, right? Lol
liftlift > tsm
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#911
Has anyone taken the effort to map out ad needed to last hit under tower at different stages of the game? Seems like something that someone would do and if a link would magically appear in gd that would be pretty awesome.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
May 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#912
There was that rumored lane swap from clg that might be the annoucement.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:00:52
May 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#913
On May 19 2013 03:50 Schwopzi wrote:
Has anyone taken the effort to map out ad needed to last hit under tower at different stages of the game? Seems like something that someone would do and if a link would magically appear in gd that would be pretty awesome.

Melee minions is 2 tower shots and 1 auto attack. At all levels I think. Ranged minions is 1 tower shot and 2 auto attacks. Only one aa if you have vamp sceptre and flat ad runes.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:04:09
May 18 2013 19:03 GMT
#914
I don't know what you're talking about. Its 2 + 2 for melee or 1 + 2 for casters until you reach a certain AD threshold. However, I'm pretty confident that threshold continually changes as the game progresses, but an AD will effectively always be well ahead of that mark once they eclipse it for the first time.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 19:05 GMT
#915
Without any AD runes Ashe doesn't have enough by herself to last hit under tower is what I know.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 19:10 GMT
#916
Was it 2+2? Maybe I was mistaken cuz my own minions manage to do some dmg.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 18 2013 19:38 GMT
#917
Outer Turrets have 152+4/min AD, with 30% Armor Pen
Melee Minions have 445+20/3 min HP and 0+2/3 min Armor
Ranged Minions have 280 +15/3 min HP and 0+1.25/min Armor

So at 0/3/6/9/12 minutes (ignoring the fact that Minion stats change at x:00 and Turret stats change at x:40):
Melee minions have 141/144/147/150/153 HP leftover after 2 tower hits
Ranged minions have 128/132/136/140/144 HP leftover after 2 tower hits

So Craton is right. It's 2+2 and 1+2 until you pass the relevant AD thresholds and after that your AD growth far outstrips the rate at which the threshold goes up.
Moderator
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11803 Posts
May 18 2013 19:43 GMT
#918
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
May 18 2013 19:45 GMT
#919
On May 19 2013 04:43 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.

He's also the most faceroll champion in the game -_-
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 19:47 GMT
#920
On May 19 2013 04:43 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:10 kongoline wrote:
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes


I personally hate playing against Ryze. He basically functions as a timer, if the game takes more then 30 minutes, you lose, because even if you catch him he is still absurdly tanky and kills half your team before dying. And if you don't attack him, he kills all of your team before you have killed even one of his tanks.

That is grossly exaggerated imo. This was probably more true before rework. But in s3 you can shut him down pretty hard. He's still hard to stop if he snowballs, but its hard for ryze to start the snowball.
liftlift > tsm
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 351 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1255
Zeus 737
actioN 611
BeSt 465
ggaemo 205
Larva 149
PianO 124
Nal_rA 105
EffOrt 57
Sharp 56
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 54
sSak 50
Sacsri 16
NaDa 9
Killer 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 449
NeuroSwarm164
XcaliburYe93
League of Legends
JimRising 583
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox552
Mew2King11
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor228
MindelVK11
Other Games
gofns7475
Happy344
PiGStarcraft179
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7663
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2550
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH291
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos949
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 33m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2h 33m
Ladder Legends
6h 33m
IPSL
7h 33m
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
BSL
10h 33m
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
CranKy Ducklings
15h 33m
Replay Cast
1d
Wardi Open
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
1d 17h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.