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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 17 2013 20:10 GMT
#661
i'm watching ogn...

if diana uses RQ, does the mark land just as R reaches the target to reset the cooldown?

sick stuff if true. must exploit that.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 17 2013 20:14 GMT
#662
Jayce's R gives so little compared to the rest of his kit, dont understand why people ever put points into it until later ><

Also nothing wrong with putting more points into W over E if you really feel like you can utilize the points that you're putting into it. I was destroying a Nidalee yesterday and I took points in W over E so I could take her towers down faster because there was barely anything the enemy could do.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#663
On May 18 2013 04:59 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:20 Numy wrote:
On May 18 2013 04:14 Kouda wrote:
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.


Well late game skill order doesn't matter. W only really shines when you get your muramana so it really depends if you going to get those levels in W by the time you get your muramana or not. If you can still go Q-E-W and get levels in W by the time you have muramana I think it's superior than going Q-W-E.

Max W second is a lot more common than Max E second from what I see on most pro builds, and it makes more sense - E is mostly used for the knockback now, the damage isn't stellar anymore.


You are wrong. E max is like 8x more common than W max. Go on Probuilds.net and look.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
May 17 2013 20:23 GMT
#664
On May 18 2013 05:10 kainzero wrote:
i'm watching ogn...

if diana uses RQ, does the mark land just as R reaches the target to reset the cooldown?

sick stuff if true. must exploit that.

Yea it does
Jaedong :D
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 20:25:38
May 17 2013 20:25 GMT
#665
+10 armour/MR in melee form per level. The armour alone is enough to make him sturdier than most champs in the game, and at level 11 the +25 MR beats what melee champs naturally get at level 18. So... yeah.
(Also 20% shred.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 20:26:17
May 17 2013 20:25 GMT
#666
On May 18 2013 05:14 Dusty wrote:
Jayce's R gives so little compared to the rest of his kit, dont understand why people ever put points into it until later ><

Also nothing wrong with putting more points into W over E if you really feel like you can utilize the points that you're putting into it. I was destroying a Nidalee yesterday and I took points in W over E so I could take her towers down faster because there was barely anything the enemy could do.

pretty sure most jayce players max Q>E>W>R
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#667
On May 18 2013 05:25 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 05:14 Dusty wrote:
Jayce's R gives so little compared to the rest of his kit, dont understand why people ever put points into it until later ><

Also nothing wrong with putting more points into W over E if you really feel like you can utilize the points that you're putting into it. I was destroying a Nidalee yesterday and I took points in W over E so I could take her towers down faster because there was barely anything the enemy could do.

pretty sure most jayce players max Q>E>W>R


pretty much yeah

something I've started doing recently was putting more points in W, so by level 10 or so it would be something like 5-2-3-1
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
May 17 2013 20:30 GMT
#668
In NA/EU, most jayce players go Q>E>R>W or Q>E>W>R while in KR, jayce players go R>Q>E>W. The reason for maxing E is that jayce's damage in midgame is primarily determined by how many QE combos he can hit and the cooldown of E goes down with level.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 17 2013 20:42 GMT
#669
Jayce's skill order is flexible...one of the reasons he is so good. Pushing towers or taking objectives and your AD Carry isn't so strong? W. Seiging up a lot? E. Facing some strong AOE? R.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 17 2013 21:21 GMT
#670
Yeah, I remember when pros used to skip W on Jayce, but that was like Maknoon at MLG Dallas 2012, quite a while ago lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#671
You generally max E after Q because it means your Q and E cooldowns are very similar which means your Accelerated Shockblast combo is very nicely synched. Also means if you're doing 5-man plays you can force seiges much better. However, if you're in one of those 40-min lane situations then W can make sense since you have more bully and tower taking power. Vary your skill points depending on the game state.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 22:21:14
May 17 2013 22:03 GMT
#672
On May 18 2013 05:10 kainzero wrote:
i'm watching ogn...

if diana uses RQ, does the mark land just as R reaches the target to reset the cooldown?

sick stuff if true. must exploit that.


Are you referring to+ Show Spoiler +
Rapidstar bot lane triple kill?


Yes, Diana's R has a grace period that allows you to refresh your R even if you land your R slightly before Q. It's a LOT more forgiving than, say, Cassiopeia's E.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 17 2013 22:04 GMT
#673
Are you guys really giving up team ghost for 3 autoattacks
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 22:24:08
May 17 2013 22:07 GMT
#674
On May 18 2013 07:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 05:10 kainzero wrote:
i'm watching ogn...

if diana uses RQ, does the mark land just as R reaches the target to reset the cooldown?

sick stuff if true. must exploit that.


Are you referring to+ Show Spoiler +
Rapidstar bot lane triple kill?


Yes, Diana's R has a grace period that allows you to refresh your R even if you land your R slightly before Q. It's a LOT more forgiving than, say, Cassiopeia's E.

WELL WAY TO SPOIL IT FOR EVERYONE

but actually i saw rapidstar do it a couple times so i was curious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#675
On May 18 2013 07:07 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 07:03 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 18 2013 05:10 kainzero wrote:
i'm watching ogn...

if diana uses RQ, does the mark land just as R reaches the target to reset the cooldown?

sick stuff if true. must exploit that.


Are you referring to Rapidstar bot lane triple kill?

Yes, Diana's R has a grace period that allows you to refresh your R even if you land your R slightly before Q. It's a LOT more forgiving than, say, Cassiopeia's E.

WELL WAY TO SPOIL IT FOR EVERYONE

but actually i saw rapidstar do it a couple times so i was curious.


WELP. I am editing it.

So sorry. I didn't think of it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#676
haha i was just joking

carry on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 17 2013 22:52 GMT
#677
I highly recommend whoever plays a lot of ad to try varus with q max.It is SO GOOD atm .The damage is insane.With just a bt you do 600+ dmg.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 17 2013 22:59 GMT
#678
On May 18 2013 07:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Are you guys really giving up team ghost for 3 autoattacks

It took me a solid 30 seconds to realize what this was in reference to. To be fair, it's 3 really fast autoattacks. Just kidding I like E max second lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 17 2013 23:03 GMT
#679
What do you guys think the odds are that blue build Ez will get nerfed? It's really fun to play and I don't think it's OP but I'm pretty sure Riot's gonna decide that it's not how they intended Ez to be played and at some point turn Iceborn into a melee item (or just nerf it) and/or nerf Elder Lizard so that you would never build it as a laner.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 17 2013 23:03 GMT
#680
They just need to nerf the shit out of the IBG as far as ranged usage is concerned. The whole thing needs another 1-2 second CD on the proc.
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