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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 17 2013 18:31 GMT
#641
On May 18 2013 02:45 deth2munkies wrote:
ITP I learn that Nami counters Draven/Leona haaaard. Gah, that lane's annoying, can't catch an axe or you're stunned/chunked.


not a counter lane, just not used to playing vs Nami I guess. this lane should actually be in your favor.
Carrilord has arrived.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
May 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#642
shit, i bought caitlyn today xD
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 17 2013 18:51 GMT
#643
Random question: I know there's a key you can hit to only target champions (² by default iirc), but can you combine it with the attack-move command to auto the closest champ?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 17 2013 18:58 GMT
#644
On May 18 2013 03:51 Alaric wrote:
Random question: I know there's a key you can hit to only target champions (² by default iirc), but can you combine it with the attack-move command to auto the closest champ?

no that doesnt work
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
May 17 2013 19:06 GMT
#645
Got my first penta (as TF) in like a year today. Loggin out. Don't want to ruin this.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
May 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#646
On May 18 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 02:45 deth2munkies wrote:
ITP I learn that Nami counters Draven/Leona haaaard. Gah, that lane's annoying, can't catch an axe or you're stunned/chunked.


not a counter lane, just not used to playing vs Nami I guess. this lane should actually be in your favor.

Nami I feel in lane punishes you on bad positioning. Either person in the duo you describd can crush her as she attacks the other as long as you both stay in the posistion to do so. Nami is very still when she attacks and sits there for a good full second or 2 where you can get her.

Its like the taric problem you see in lane people can just tool on him and walk awa beacuse you can walk away far eough to make his stun not really do anything with the space you created by tooling on him and the space he is away from his adc.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
May 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#647
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 17 2013 19:20 GMT
#648
On May 18 2013 04:14 Kouda wrote:
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.


Well late game skill order doesn't matter. W only really shines when you get your muramana so it really depends if you going to get those levels in W by the time you get your muramana or not. If you can still go Q-E-W and get levels in W by the time you have muramana I think it's superior than going Q-W-E.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 17 2013 19:23 GMT
#649
You don't need Muramana to shred people and towers with it, only some AD.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
May 17 2013 19:26 GMT
#650
On May 18 2013 04:14 Kouda wrote:
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.


you pretty much just answered your own question. W scales with items moreso than Q and E, so it's almost always better to max it last. In fact most pros don't even get a point in it until level 13
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:32:10
May 17 2013 19:31 GMT
#651
every time i start this game i get to load a new patch and have to make firewall exceptions again,

Why are there so many patches aaaah.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 17 2013 19:35 GMT
#652
I still max W second on Jayce. Hipster Jayce here.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 17 2013 19:45 GMT
#653
On May 18 2013 03:44 St3MoR wrote:
shit, i bought caitlyn today xD

She's still the strongest ADC in the game imo
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 17 2013 19:49 GMT
#654
On May 18 2013 04:26 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:14 Kouda wrote:
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.


you pretty much just answered your own question. W scales with items moreso than Q and E, so it's almost always better to max it last. In fact most pros don't even get a point in it until level 13


That is not really accurate anymore. I rarely see pro Jayce's skip it, that was like awhile ago people skipped it.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 17 2013 19:57 GMT
#655
On May 18 2013 04:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:44 St3MoR wrote:
shit, i bought caitlyn today xD

She's still the strongest ADC in the game imo

i think she's the best all-around ADC

there's stuff like varus ult and mf ult that gives them utility depending on team comp
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
May 17 2013 19:59 GMT
#656
On May 18 2013 04:20 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:14 Kouda wrote:
What do you guys think about maxing Q-W-E over Q-E-W for Jayce? I just realized how good W is , atleast in the late game.


Well late game skill order doesn't matter. W only really shines when you get your muramana so it really depends if you going to get those levels in W by the time you get your muramana or not. If you can still go Q-E-W and get levels in W by the time you have muramana I think it's superior than going Q-W-E.

Max W second is a lot more common than Max E second from what I see on most pro builds, and it makes more sense - E is mostly used for the knockback now, the damage isn't stellar anymore.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 17 2013 20:03 GMT
#657
Really don't understand the caitlyn love.I used to like playing her but as I started to play better players and couldn't win lane hard she seems so useless now.Yeah you can push towers really well but that's about it.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#658
with the new Muramana rush build on Jayce you can't skip W, it's more damage than E could ever dream of being.
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#659
So aside from Ez and Urgot, are there any other ADs that could possibly enjoy getting a Manamune?
It's your boy Guzma!
Marahumm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States98 Posts
May 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#660
On May 18 2013 04:06 seanisgrand wrote:
Got my first penta (as TF) in like a year today. Loggin out. Don't want to ruin this.


I've decided to interpret this as you logging out as soon as you got the penta, holding out your stacked deck and letting it drop as you disconnect.
Looks like you mashed some poor fellers dog, Sarge.
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