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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 09 2013 02:39 GMT
#6521
Giving an opinion on a movie that came out a matter of hours ago is hive mind now? Stop ruining the internet thx.
Carrilord has arrived.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
June 09 2013 02:41 GMT
#6522
Its a good documentary, a little uncritical of CLG, but that is to be expected. However its more than just a puff piece which is nice.

Chauster just tilts me. ugh,
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 09 2013 02:41 GMT
#6523
On June 09 2013 11:33 Amethyst21 wrote:
Chauster:

"These individual (Korean) players are not very good by themselves...."

Really Chauster? Really? Chauster might have the biggest ego in e-sports, its amazing. Dude you played IN KOREA, its not just that their teamwork is better its the fact that these players (Shy, Madlife, Maknoon, Imp, Rapidstar etc) are REALLY EFFING GOOD.

My god that tilts me.

I think what he means is that the huge difference in skill (teamskill) and results isn't due to how good the Koreans are individually, but how good their teamwork is. I think he's just empathasizing that their teamwork is on another level
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 09 2013 02:43 GMT
#6524
6/10

No mention of Loco whatsoever made me sad. I enjoyed getting a more in depth look at the CLG train wreck. After something gets hyped for as long as it did, I'm expecting more than what was given. Be back in a bit, going to start a kickstarter to get funded to make super gosu esport documentary.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 09 2013 02:52 GMT
#6525
On June 09 2013 11:41 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:33 Amethyst21 wrote:
Chauster:

"These individual (Korean) players are not very good by themselves...."

Really Chauster? Really? Chauster might have the biggest ego in e-sports, its amazing. Dude you played IN KOREA, its not just that their teamwork is better its the fact that these players (Shy, Madlife, Maknoon, Imp, Rapidstar etc) are REALLY EFFING GOOD.

My god that tilts me.

I think what he means is that the huge difference in skill (teamskill) and results isn't due to how good the Koreans are individually, but how good their teamwork is. I think he's just empathasizing that their teamwork is on another level


This coming from someone who is quite possibly a competitor for progamer with the worst mechanics.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 09 2013 02:53 GMT
#6526
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 09 2013 02:56 GMT
#6527
On June 09 2013 11:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:41 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:33 Amethyst21 wrote:
Chauster:

"These individual (Korean) players are not very good by themselves...."

Really Chauster? Really? Chauster might have the biggest ego in e-sports, its amazing. Dude you played IN KOREA, its not just that their teamwork is better its the fact that these players (Shy, Madlife, Maknoon, Imp, Rapidstar etc) are REALLY EFFING GOOD.

My god that tilts me.

I think what he means is that the huge difference in skill (teamskill) and results isn't due to how good the Koreans are individually, but how good their teamwork is. I think he's just empathasizing that their teamwork is on another level


This coming from someone who is quite possibly a competitor for progamer with the worst mechanics.

Honestly, I think that the notion that old people can't improve their mechanics or old people mechanics are just worse is a huge myth. I can't prove this, of course, but the mechanics required to play League are very minimal compared to starcraft, I can't imagine an aspect that requires something an 17 year old body has that a 23 year old doesn't.
Most dota pros are 21-24 and dota is arguably mechanically more intensive. I think what's holding Chauster and Saint back is that they have no idea how to improve their mechanics, or other such similar mental block
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 09 2013 03:04 GMT
#6528
Lol who are these "Team Siren" guys??? Friend linked me this "TOO + Friends vs. Team Siren".

"Siren is da real deal" he says......
Forever Young
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2013 03:12 GMT
#6529
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.

It's like people forgot they stuck Chauster in his worst position, and expected him to flourish. Chauster in jungle was merely a band-aid to HotshotGG in jungle.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 09 2013 03:14 GMT
#6530
On June 09 2013 12:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.

It's like people forgot they stuck Chauster in his worst position, and expected him to flourish. Chauster in jungle was merely a band-aid to HotshotGG in jungle.

Like a Band-Aid on a wound that needs stitches.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 09 2013 03:31 GMT
#6531
I liked the documentary.
TranslatorBaa!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 09 2013 03:31 GMT
#6532
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.


I don't understand this post at all, some of the most talented shotcallers internationally do so from the 5 position.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 03:36:21
June 09 2013 03:35 GMT
#6533
On June 09 2013 12:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 12:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.

It's like people forgot they stuck Chauster in his worst position, and expected him to flourish. Chauster in jungle was merely a band-aid to HotshotGG in jungle.

Like a Band-Aid on a wound that needs stitches.

a lot of stitches.
I think a lot of the problem with Chauster's jungling had to do with his inability to farm up. Reminiscent of the same problem TOO was having when adapting to early Season 2 jungle.
On June 09 2013 12:31 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.


I don't understand this post at all, some of the most talented shotcallers internationally do so from the 5 position.

I think he's talking about his position within the team; not the position he plays in the game.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 09 2013 03:41 GMT
#6534
On June 09 2013 12:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 12:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
On June 09 2013 12:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.

It's like people forgot they stuck Chauster in his worst position, and expected him to flourish. Chauster in jungle was merely a band-aid to HotshotGG in jungle.

Like a Band-Aid on a wound that needs stitches.

a lot of stitches.
I think a lot of the problem with Chauster's jungling had to do with his inability to farm up. Reminiscent of the same problem TOO was having when adapting to early Season 2 jungle.
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 12:31 Slusher wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.


I don't understand this post at all, some of the most talented shotcallers internationally do so from the 5 position.

I think he's talking about his position within the team; not the position he plays in the game.

Watching him sit in a bush for over a minute and then just leave was painful. Meanwhile the enemy Jungler has gotten a 20 CS lead.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 04:07:03
June 09 2013 03:45 GMT
#6535
On June 09 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 12:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 09 2013 12:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
On June 09 2013 12:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.

It's like people forgot they stuck Chauster in his worst position, and expected him to flourish. Chauster in jungle was merely a band-aid to HotshotGG in jungle.

Like a Band-Aid on a wound that needs stitches.

a lot of stitches.
I think a lot of the problem with Chauster's jungling had to do with his inability to farm up. Reminiscent of the same problem TOO was having when adapting to early Season 2 jungle.
On June 09 2013 12:31 Slusher wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:53 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 09 2013 11:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
NA hatred circlejerk is strong.


It's more like NA disappointment =[

Regarding Chauster and CLG - I've always thought that he was one of the primary reasons CLG has been failing. Chauster has been a mediocre player and shotcaller for the entirety of season 3, yet in all of the shuffling that CLG has done the past few years Chauster has remained as the centerpiece of the team and nothing is changing. Now he is surrounded by (arguably) the most talented CLG roster to date, but he's not going to play the role of being gracefully carried by Nien, Link, and Doublelift, his ego won't allow it. Chauster is going to keep dictating how CLG should play the game instead of letting his more talented team mates take the reins, and CLG is going to continue to be mediocre.


I don't understand this post at all, some of the most talented shotcallers internationally do so from the 5 position.

I think he's talking about his position within the team; not the position he plays in the game.

Watching him sit in a bush for over a minute and then just leave was painful. Meanwhile the enemy Jungler has gotten a 20 CS lead.

Yeah, it was pretty fucking painful to watch, it was like watching season 2 nintendude camping top lane; except less successful.

But, he was still better than HSGG in jungle though.

Oh shit, own3d owed DL 20k O.o wtf.....
liftlift > tsm
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 09 2013 04:22 GMT
#6536
I just will never forget hotshot sitting in top lane river bush for 2 solid minutes, coming out to "zone" the enemy laner off creeps, then recalling saying he "applied so much pressure top lane from zoning" when in reality he gave enemy top laner a full level advantage and didn't do anything for 2 mins lol.
Then he went 0-8 on udyr and said how much he was doing for his team....while running around the jungle dying all game lol. It's okay though, he was "applying pressure" by feeding the enemy team kills and giving them baron, dragon, and towers since it was essentially a 4v5 always.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#6537
Well, the first Machinima vid on just him, All-Stars, and this solidified it.

I like Yiliang Peng, but Doublelift annoys the crap out of me.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 09 2013 04:34 GMT
#6538
I remember a year ago when all my friends thought I was retarded saying koreans will dominate all in a few months and that NA was screwed. They somehow thought that the fact that this was a team game would make it turn out different.

Now they are all on the korean is the best bandwagon.

Then again, they did the same thing about starcraft 2 just about how it wasn't as mechanically demanding. Good ol history repeating itself.
Jaedong :3
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
June 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#6539
Im 100% certain that if we competed in NA LCS teams we would fare in the top 3.
Shadow of his former self.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#6540
On June 09 2013 13:34 ReketSomething wrote:
I remember a year ago when all my friends thought I was retarded saying koreans will dominate all in a few months and that NA was screwed. They somehow thought that the fact that this was a team game would make it turn out different.

Now they are all on the korean is the best bandwagon.

Then again, they did the same thing about starcraft 2 just about how it wasn't as mechanically demanding. Good ol history repeating itself.

I have my fingers crossed for S4.
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