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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
May 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#2981
On May 12 2013 00:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 00:37 thenexusp wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:27 Capped wrote:
Someone just told me that aegis aura stacks on the people that own them.

So if a shen and soraka both own aegis, they get double the effect of the aura if they are in range of eachother.

Correct?

I seriously doubt it.

Yes.

This is the case for all aura items. They stack, but only on people that own the item.

As the explanation, this mechanic is to prevent the unintuitive result where upgrading an item would cause you to lose stacks.

WotA's a good example. Pick+Gunblade gives you 65 AP and 12% spellvamp. If auras only ever single stacked, and someone else already built a WotA, then upgrading it would cause you to lose 15 AP and 12% spellvamp, since most of WotA's stats are in the aura itself. Since the design of the game is that every upgrade should be a strict increase in stats*, this doesn't work.

This is confusing. If you grab WotA and your ally does, then should the aura work twice on you?


Yes. You always get your item's aura + one unique aura for other ppl's item (so if everyone buys aegis, everyone has their own aegis buff + one from a teammate for a total of 2)
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2982
On May 11 2013 18:34 Alabasern wrote:
Sejuani is still too strong. She has CC, movement, and dmg...as a TANK. It's not fair, jumping walls, escaping fights and then punishing the heroes who chase EZ PZ.
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permafrost is 3532523527590275x more satisfying than zed ult
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#2983
On May 12 2013 00:37 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:15 Alaric wrote:
It's harder to zone him mid than it is on a sidelane.

And Blizzard wanted to do the same thing as Riot's LCS with their WCS... except they fucked up by not locking regions, so Korean players swarmed NA and EU WCS qualifiers for easy spots (and easier money than in Korea).


They are locked to regions they compete in. They cannot compete in any other region. So if they decide to be in NA, they will be stuck in NA region, and cannot compete in others. It's an interesting method to bring in better competition to all regions. I don't know if you can call it successful or not though. I think the idea is that it is a lot better to see good games overall than it is to see the weaker regions getting destroyed on the world stage. Even if it doesn't make sense for a Korean player to be qualifying technically as a NA representative. Since these qualifiers are played through their respective region, they have to deal with latency issues as well. Still they are winning.

Oh, I didn't mean to say that it has no merits, however it makes some people afraid that Koreans would be able to take over the whole scene if they wanted, due to how the average level is so much higher there. In turn, this would hurt the "foreigner" scene, in the sense that while it'd still be the foreigner scene, it'd be toped (topped?) by Koreans making it increasingly harder for Americans and Europeans to reach a level of success where they'd be able to live off of SC2.
Not sure how it's turning out (I stopped following SC2 longg ago), I just remember that it was amongst the fears expressed whent he system was revealed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 11 2013 16:18 GMT
#2984
I'm starting to think I don't like how hard it is for mids to do wraiths in season 3.

I mean, I understand where Riot is going with it, they want the jungle to be farmed by the jungler and not have games where all 3 lanes are sucking up jungle exp/gold thereby making a ton of junglers non-viable.

But the issue is, in season 2 every mid could farm wraiths pretty reasonably. Now there are some that it is ridiculously difficult on, and others that can still do it super easily from the start of the game (Zed, Zed, Zed and Zed)

It bothers me when I watch the enemy mid take every wraith camp when I'm playing a champion that just cannot do that.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 11 2013 16:21 GMT
#2985
On May 12 2013 01:18 Ketara wrote:
I'm starting to think I don't like how hard it is for mids to do wraiths in season 3.

I mean, I understand where Riot is going with it, they want the jungle to be farmed by the jungler and not have games where all 3 lanes are sucking up jungle exp/gold thereby making a ton of junglers non-viable.

But the issue is, in season 2 every mid could farm wraiths pretty reasonably. Now there are some that it is ridiculously difficult on, and others that can still do it super easily from the start of the game (Zed, Zed, Zed and Zed)

It bothers me when I watch the enemy mid take every wraith camp when I'm playing a champion that just cannot do that.

I agree. One game with Zed for example the mid was just a farmfest and so I took wraiths every other wave and wolves every other wave and by around 20min I was 50+ minions ahead from just that. It's kind of stupid how wraith-clearing is now a requirement for a good mid, pretty much.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
May 11 2013 16:30 GMT
#2986
On May 12 2013 00:50 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 00:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 12 2013 00:37 thenexusp wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:27 Capped wrote:
Someone just told me that aegis aura stacks on the people that own them.

So if a shen and soraka both own aegis, they get double the effect of the aura if they are in range of eachother.

Correct?

I seriously doubt it.

Yes.

This is the case for all aura items. They stack, but only on people that own the item.

As the explanation, this mechanic is to prevent the unintuitive result where upgrading an item would cause you to lose stacks.

WotA's a good example. Pick+Gunblade gives you 65 AP and 12% spellvamp. If auras only ever single stacked, and someone else already built a WotA, then upgrading it would cause you to lose 15 AP and 12% spellvamp, since most of WotA's stats are in the aura itself. Since the design of the game is that every upgrade should be a strict increase in stats*, this doesn't work.

This is confusing. If you grab WotA and your ally does, then should the aura work twice on you?


Yes. You always get your item's aura + one unique aura for other ppl's item (so if everyone buys aegis, everyone has their own aegis buff + one from a teammate for a total of 2)

Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that Wota is an exception to the rule and that if you have an aegis, you do not get the aura effect for yourself but only for your allies (while still getting the buff icon). Is there any way to check that? There was conflicting info e.g. here in this reddit thread and I am now thoroughly confused because I initially thought that you definitely get the aura effect as well as the item holder.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 11 2013 16:56 GMT
#2987
They removed bulwarks stacking at the start of the season, then let it slide back in, I think they reverted it back so it didn't again, and now they do again. Confused? You should be!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 11 2013 16:59 GMT
#2988
quick question,cassopia max what skill 1st and item?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 11 2013 17:08 GMT
#2989
Guys please, does anyone have Entenzwerg's replays from spectating him? If you do, please PM me here, I need them urgently. Thanks :3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#2990
On May 12 2013 01:59 justiceknight wrote:
quick question,cassopia max what skill 1st and item?

Tear into rylai (she needs the tankiness), good follow-up items include Seeker's, Abyssal, Liandry's.
Max Q first to be able to push easily, E first if you're confident that you can harass well.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 11 2013 17:27 GMT
#2991
On May 12 2013 02:15 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 01:59 justiceknight wrote:
quick question,cassopia max what skill 1st and item?

Tear into rylai (she needs the tankiness), good follow-up items include Seeker's, Abyssal, Liandry's.
Max Q first to be able to push easily, E first if you're confident that you can harass well.


Rylai is core. I really like the spirit item that gives ap/cdr/spell vamp (can't remember what it's called). Tear is quite good, obviously.

I prefer maxing E first.

I really should play her more, she's tons of fun and I used to be quite good at her early S2
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 11 2013 17:27 GMT
#2992
pretty sure spectral wraith is core on her. she has one of the highest baron DPS and spectral wraith only amplifies that
cool beans
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 11 2013 17:41 GMT
#2993
It's ironic that Sejuani melts people when she's an ice champion.

S2 Finals, TPA vs AZF Game 3 when TPA forces a 20 minute surrender out of AZF.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#2994
Ok, decision time, do i buy a runepage or an awesome flashy champion? I have 3 pages, 1 ad, 1 ap and 1 "util" which is basically tanky junglers or support.

Thoughts? XD
Useless wet fish.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#2995
On May 12 2013 01:18 Ketara wrote:
I'm starting to think I don't like how hard it is for mids to do wraiths in season 3.

I mean, I understand where Riot is going with it, they want the jungle to be farmed by the jungler and not have games where all 3 lanes are sucking up jungle exp/gold thereby making a ton of junglers non-viable.

But the issue is, in season 2 every mid could farm wraiths pretty reasonably. Now there are some that it is ridiculously difficult on, and others that can still do it super easily from the start of the game (Zed, Zed, Zed and Zed)

It bothers me when I watch the enemy mid take every wraith camp when I'm playing a champion that just cannot do that.



On May 12 2013 01:21 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 01:18 Ketara wrote:
I'm starting to think I don't like how hard it is for mids to do wraiths in season 3.

I mean, I understand where Riot is going with it, they want the jungle to be farmed by the jungler and not have games where all 3 lanes are sucking up jungle exp/gold thereby making a ton of junglers non-viable.

But the issue is, in season 2 every mid could farm wraiths pretty reasonably. Now there are some that it is ridiculously difficult on, and others that can still do it super easily from the start of the game (Zed, Zed, Zed and Zed)

It bothers me when I watch the enemy mid take every wraith camp when I'm playing a champion that just cannot do that.

I agree. One game with Zed for example the mid was just a farmfest and so I took wraiths every other wave and wolves every other wave and by around 20min I was 50+ minions ahead from just that. It's kind of stupid how wraith-clearing is now a requirement for a good mid, pretty much.


Zed is just BS in general. We need not make decisions based on him.

Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 18:47:42
May 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#2996
On May 12 2013 03:21 Capped wrote:
Ok, decision time, do i buy a runepage or an awesome flashy champion? I have 3 pages, 1 ad, 1 ap and 1 "util" which is basically tanky junglers or support.

Thoughts? XD


buy whichever one you'd prefer to have

EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
May 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#2997
On May 12 2013 03:21 Capped wrote:
Ok, decision time, do i buy a runepage or an awesome flashy champion? I have 3 pages, 1 ad, 1 ap and 1 "util" which is basically tanky junglers or support.

Thoughts? XD


I have 20 pages and I want more -.-
wat
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 18:53:31
May 11 2013 18:51 GMT
#2998
On May 12 2013 02:15 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 01:59 justiceknight wrote:
quick question,cassopia max what skill 1st and item?

Tear into rylai (she needs the tankiness), good follow-up items include Seeker's, Abyssal, Liandry's.
Max Q first to be able to push easily, E first if you're confident that you can harass well.


Double dorans on cass is probably better then tear until really late.. You have too many core items to be able to justify early aa and double dorans is a massive power spike for a champion who is already strong early.

Edit: also tear makes you so vulnerable until you get giants belt.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 18:55:37
May 11 2013 18:55 GMT
#2999
On May 12 2013 03:21 Capped wrote:
Ok, decision time, do i buy a runepage or an awesome flashy champion? I have 3 pages, 1 ad, 1 ap and 1 "util" which is basically tanky junglers or support.

Thoughts? XD

Runepage is head, Champ is tails. Now go flip a coin. When it's in the air, you'll decide what you want.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
May 11 2013 19:16 GMT
#3000
I'd love to see a match between two teams: bo7, no bans, champs that have been played can't be played again. Wouldn't mind seeing some normally unplayed champions at work ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
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