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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 09 2013 14:40 GMT
#2541
On May 09 2013 23:38 Vanka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:17 thenexusp wrote:
Ok, from reading the lol wiki

There is a difference between troll pool / troll pole type untargetability and alpha-strike/twisted advance/death mark type untargetability. The former disjoints projectiles but the latter doesn't.

LOL MECHANICS why you so screwed up


It still befuddles me that amumu ult is a unique form of cc in the game...


He's that lonely.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 09 2013 14:50 GMT
#2542
well it is a little odd that we have silence, which stops casting but not autos, but we have nothing that does the opposite.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 14:52:48
May 09 2013 14:52 GMT
#2543
On May 09 2013 23:25 Alaric wrote:
I recall Shake's Zed video where he still doged the second tick from Morgana's ult with his, though.

Link to the video? Since Zed's ult is a dash it's possible he dodged it just be getting far enough away

It's also possible Morgana's ult is coded so that being tethered is a precondition for getting hit by the second tick, but the second tick isn't a part of the tether. Since you can dodge untargeted abilities like Karthus's ult with untargetability, you might be able to likewise dodge the second tick of Morgana's ult as well.

Which leads to a another question: Does Karma still root vlad when he's in pool?

On May 09 2013 23:50 sob3k wrote:
well it is a little odd that we have silence, which stops casting but not autos, but we have nothing that does the opposite.

We have Blinds, which are almost the same thing (modulo certain on-hit effects)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 14:53:31
May 09 2013 14:52 GMT
#2544
On May 09 2013 23:50 sob3k wrote:
well it is a little odd that we have silence, which stops casting but not autos, but we have nothing that does the opposite.

Blind?

Also most AD carries hit by an Amumu ult stop attacking because they're furiously right clicking away or clicking their flash key.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 14:55:38
May 09 2013 14:54 GMT
#2545
Speaking of Blind, I think it would do great for the overall visibility of the skill if your autoattacks didn't make the normal on-hit sound if you autoattacked while blinded. (Or autoattacked Jax with E on) Maybe replace the normal sound with the whooshing sound of an attack missing.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 09 2013 15:00 GMT
#2546
Sort of on topic but shaco ult dodges zed ult, pretty funny when I realised it.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#2547
On May 09 2013 23:54 thenexusp wrote:
Speaking of Blind, I think it would do great for the overall visibility of the skill if your autoattacks didn't make the normal on-hit sound if you autoattacked while blinded. (Or autoattacked Jax with E on) Maybe replace the normal sound with the whooshing sound of an attack missing.


well, it does say "miss" everywhere.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 09 2013 15:04 GMT
#2548
On May 09 2013 18:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xerath maybe getting changed?
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=37542234#37542234

Oh wtf no.
Why are they fucking with Xerath when there are so many other champions who probably need it more?
Xerath isn't exactly top tier tourney level right now but he's completely viable.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 09 2013 15:05 GMT
#2549
On May 10 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 18:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xerath maybe getting changed?
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=37542234#37542234

Oh wtf no.
Why are they fucking with Xerath when there are so many other champions who probably need it more?
Xerath isn't exactly top tier tourney level right now but he's completely viable.


I agree. I've wanted to play more Xerath myself, but I don't want him to change just yet... he already seems super cool.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 09 2013 15:06 GMT
#2550
does anyone else have a waiting period of like 15-20 seconds in the loading screen after everyone's loaded the game? everyone's on "summoning" but the game just won't start -.-
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 09 2013 15:07 GMT
#2551
On May 10 2013 00:06 greggy wrote:
does anyone else have a waiting period of like 15-20 seconds in the loading screen after everyone's loaded the game? everyone's on "summoning" but the game just won't start -.-


I've had this happen before. It's a silly little wait that feels strange, but it eventually resolves itself.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 09 2013 15:08 GMT
#2552
On May 10 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 18:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xerath maybe getting changed?
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=37542234#37542234

Oh wtf no.
Why are they fucking with Xerath when there are so many other champions who probably need it more?
Xerath isn't exactly top tier tourney level right now but he's completely viable.


I think they can probably work on several champions at once.

Backseat game designing, man.

Also, come watch me feed a Zed.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 09 2013 15:12 GMT
#2553
On May 10 2013 00:08 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 09 2013 18:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xerath maybe getting changed?
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=37542234#37542234

Oh wtf no.
Why are they fucking with Xerath when there are so many other champions who probably need it more?
Xerath isn't exactly top tier tourney level right now but he's completely viable.


I think they can probably work on several champions at once.

Backseat game designing, man.

Also, come watch me feed a Zed.

Can't, I'm at work. And yeah, you're right, but the 'nobody plays him' reason doesn't seem like the best for a partial rework if they agree his kit/stats/burst/winrates are good....

Except his passive. That DOES need a change. (Not that many champ passives aren't useless)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 09 2013 15:16 GMT
#2554
I dunno, I can see where they're coming from.

When Xer's ult is down he only has two abilities that really "do" things, and that's not very cool. And the siege mode I've always felt like was a cool idea, but just sort of fell short of the mark. He's a really cool champion concept that just isn't quite getting there.

Giving him 3 normal abilities and the siege mode, maybe with the siege mode also giving a one time use fourth spell like wind slash/skystrike, would definitely make him cooler.

But you're right, it doesn't seem like something that's particularly urgent. He's fine atm, he just could be a lot better.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 15:29:03
May 09 2013 15:27 GMT
#2555
On May 09 2013 23:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:50 sob3k wrote:
well it is a little odd that we have silence, which stops casting but not autos, but we have nothing that does the opposite.

Blind?

Also most AD carries hit by an Amumu ult stop attacking because they're furiously right clicking away or clicking their flash key.


You can't auto during amumu ult. This is why it is confusing lol, since it's the only cc in the game that works the way it does.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Amumu/Ability_Details

EDIT: actually, amumu's ult (the only "ensnare" in the game) fits that bill perfectly, though it stops movement as well as autos but not abilities.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
May 09 2013 15:29 GMT
#2556
On May 10 2013 00:16 Ketara wrote:
I dunno, I can see where they're coming from.

When Xer's ult is down he only has two abilities that really "do" things, and that's not very cool. And the siege mode I've always felt like was a cool idea, but just sort of fell short of the mark. He's a really cool champion concept that just isn't quite getting there.

Giving him 3 normal abilities and the siege mode, maybe with the siege mode also giving a one time use fourth spell like wind slash/skystrike, would definitely make him cooler.

But you're right, it doesn't seem like something that's particularly urgent. He's fine atm, he just could be a lot better.


Not really two abilties, since you need to hit Q to do anything with e. So he really only has one ability without ult
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 15:34:15
May 09 2013 15:33 GMT
#2557
Ahri's charm is a unique cc in its own right too (Taunt+Slow+disables aa).
On May 09 2013 23:52 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:25 Alaric wrote:
I recall Shake's Zed video where he still doged the second tick from Morgana's ult with his, though.

Link to the video? Since Zed's ult is a dash it's possible he dodged it just be getting far enough away

It's also possible Morgana's ult is coded so that being tethered is a precondition for getting hit by the second tick, but the second tick isn't a part of the tether. Since you can dodge untargeted abilities like Karthus's ult with untargetability, you might be able to likewise dodge the second tick of Morgana's ult as well.

Which leads to a another question: Does Karma still root vlad when he's in pool?

+ Show Spoiler [Video] +
It's at 4 minutes 16, seems like putting the timer in the URL doesn't work when it's embedded.
As for the pool, that's the question I asked one page earlier.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
May 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#2558
On May 09 2013 21:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l, it's not TL.

hilar...

I figured, just the two wild theories people threw out there that I'd be overjoyed if was true.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 15:36:56
May 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#2559
On May 09 2013 23:52 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:25 Alaric wrote:
I recall Shake's Zed video where he still doged the second tick from Morgana's ult with his, though.

Link to the video? Since Zed's ult is a dash it's possible he dodged it just be getting far enough away

It's also possible Morgana's ult is coded so that being tethered is a precondition for getting hit by the second tick, but the second tick isn't a part of the tether. Since you can dodge untargeted abilities like Karthus's ult with untargetability, you might be able to likewise dodge the second tick of Morgana's ult as well.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHo0ihv2lVY&t=4m15s

Its at 4:15, definitely dodged the second tick and stun with ult
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
May 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#2560
On May 10 2013 00:33 Alaric wrote:
Ahri's charm is a unique cc in its own right too (Taunt+Slow+disables aa).
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:52 thenexusp wrote:
On May 09 2013 23:25 Alaric wrote:
I recall Shake's Zed video where he still doged the second tick from Morgana's ult with his, though.

Link to the video? Since Zed's ult is a dash it's possible he dodged it just be getting far enough away

It's also possible Morgana's ult is coded so that being tethered is a precondition for getting hit by the second tick, but the second tick isn't a part of the tether. Since you can dodge untargeted abilities like Karthus's ult with untargetability, you might be able to likewise dodge the second tick of Morgana's ult as well.

Which leads to a another question: Does Karma still root vlad when he's in pool?

+ Show Spoiler [Video] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHo0ihv2lVY&t=4m16s
It's at 4 minutes 16, seems like putting the timer in the URL doesn't work when it's embedded.
As for the pool, that's the question I asked one page earlier.

0:37 Oh sweet jesus the whiplash on Darius. XD
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