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Incontrol for all his faults perceived or real is EG down to the core. He's at this point a staple to the brand and I honestly think he enjoys being such so him gushing about such a thing doesn't seem out of place. If EG had a team for a facebook game he'd be about praising it because he loves his team if not the game itself. Least that's my feeling..
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On April 17 2013 01:02 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 00:15 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rengar top is currently still really strong, I know a guy who does elo jobs and plays only rengar and basically never loses. Care to link info? I'm really curious as to how to make it work. I've seen a lot of people use a CDR based build with things like Kindle, Bruta, and Glacial, which I like, but perhaps I'm not using good Runes/Masteries/Skill orders. This guy is a pretty high Rengar main. He hasn't streamed for a while but he's got a decent amount of recordings up. http://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/videos?kind=past_broadcasts
Looked him up on Lolking.... wow that's pretty damn impressive.
Research time~
Didn't take much time he literally only has one mastery page LOL
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On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo
Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Which suddenly becomes absurd.
On April 17 2013 01:08 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:02 Gahlo wrote:On April 17 2013 00:15 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rengar top is currently still really strong, I know a guy who does elo jobs and plays only rengar and basically never loses. Care to link info? I'm really curious as to how to make it work. I've seen a lot of people use a CDR based build with things like Kindle, Bruta, and Glacial, which I like, but perhaps I'm not using good Runes/Masteries/Skill orders. This guy is a pretty high Rengar main. He hasn't streamed for a while but he's got a decent amount of recordings up. http://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/videos?kind=past_broadcasts Looked him up on Lolking.... wow that's pretty damn impressive. Research time~ Didn't take much time he literally only has one mastery page LOL
He's only gold though. I feel like there are better Rengars.
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On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:Come on, it was obvious at release that Rengar's kit was dumb. Rewards you for spamming stuff on cooldown, no resource, the dreaded combo going with sustain (hey Vlad, you know how they said you're an awful design right before releasing that champ?), a kit made so that he can 100-0 you at level 1 with some cheese, and an instant stealth on a low cd ult... We just won a game where the support Thresh stomped the enemy Vayne/Taric lane, going 3-0 early on (while Vayne got a kill on Trist). He rushed aegis and just did his thing, smashing people around while being tanky as f***. I thought he was super good, especially with the clutch hooks (I only saw him miss like 2, I'm not gonna count the number of Cleavers I missed that game... ), then I tabbed back to my browser, and the LoLNexus tab... and only noticed then that he was platinum and Trist unranked. Went back to LoL, Trist just won his first ranked game ever in s3. The enemy team had a duo with a Silver I and Gold V player (the Gold V was the last pick amongst a Silver I team). ... there should be some way to prevent that. Ending up with a plat player in a low-mid Silver I game is absurd. On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough.
Zac does :3
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On April 17 2013 01:18 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:Come on, it was obvious at release that Rengar's kit was dumb. Rewards you for spamming stuff on cooldown, no resource, the dreaded combo going with sustain (hey Vlad, you know how they said you're an awful design right before releasing that champ?), a kit made so that he can 100-0 you at level 1 with some cheese, and an instant stealth on a low cd ult... We just won a game where the support Thresh stomped the enemy Vayne/Taric lane, going 3-0 early on (while Vayne got a kill on Trist). He rushed aegis and just did his thing, smashing people around while being tanky as f***. I thought he was super good, especially with the clutch hooks (I only saw him miss like 2, I'm not gonna count the number of Cleavers I missed that game... ), then I tabbed back to my browser, and the LoLNexus tab... and only noticed then that he was platinum and Trist unranked. Went back to LoL, Trist just won his first ranked game ever in s3. The enemy team had a duo with a Silver I and Gold V player (the Gold V was the last pick amongst a Silver I team). ... there should be some way to prevent that. Ending up with a plat player in a low-mid Silver I game is absurd. On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Zac does :3
Yeah but I wasn't sure if he'd gank well enough either because all he has after the jump is a slow. I was considering Zac.
With Hecarim, you're going to ult, then your opponent's going to flash and put a ward down and there's nothing you can do from there short of dropping a pink.
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Being able to gank through wards is not too important for a jungler. Recognizing enemy ward positions and circumventing them or simply farming and be in position for counterganks/objective control is more important. Nasus is one of the strongest junglers right now (possibly "the best") and he certainly can't expect to gank successfully through wards.
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On April 17 2013 01:21 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:18 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:Come on, it was obvious at release that Rengar's kit was dumb. Rewards you for spamming stuff on cooldown, no resource, the dreaded combo going with sustain (hey Vlad, you know how they said you're an awful design right before releasing that champ?), a kit made so that he can 100-0 you at level 1 with some cheese, and an instant stealth on a low cd ult... We just won a game where the support Thresh stomped the enemy Vayne/Taric lane, going 3-0 early on (while Vayne got a kill on Trist). He rushed aegis and just did his thing, smashing people around while being tanky as f***. I thought he was super good, especially with the clutch hooks (I only saw him miss like 2, I'm not gonna count the number of Cleavers I missed that game... ), then I tabbed back to my browser, and the LoLNexus tab... and only noticed then that he was platinum and Trist unranked. Went back to LoL, Trist just won his first ranked game ever in s3. The enemy team had a duo with a Silver I and Gold V player (the Gold V was the last pick amongst a Silver I team). ... there should be some way to prevent that. Ending up with a plat player in a low-mid Silver I game is absurd. On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Zac does :3 Yeah but I wasn't sure if he'd gank well enough either because all he has after the jump is a slow. I was considering Zac. With Hecarim, you're going to ult, then your opponent's going to flash and put a ward down and there's nothing you can do from there short of dropping a pink.
if your lane opponents are so safe you cant hecarim gank them with ult up, then your lanes already won and you should be farming jungle
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Nasus doesn't mind being seen if the enemy has no time to react. If they're overextended and get withered it's pretty much a byebye, especially as Nasus can tank turret really well while the laner kills the opponent.
By the way I think that Zac is sort of underappreciated currently, he's in my opinion extremely strong and both his ganking and initiation are extremely powerful. It also helps that he's practically impossible to gank when he has his ult up.
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I think zac is insanely strong, but not too many people have been trying to figure him out yet.
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Zac is broken, it's just he's been designed as a jungler so he sees less play than most (see how Diana and Rengar had success as laners rather than junglers).
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On April 17 2013 01:46 Alaric wrote:
Zac is broken, it's just he's been designed as a jungler so he sees less play than most (see how Diana and Rengar had success as laners rather than junglers).
How does he even lane? He has like no damage by himself. He'd be old style Udyr/WW where you just become invincible in lane but don't do anything special.
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On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Which suddenly becomes absurd. Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:08 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 01:02 Gahlo wrote:On April 17 2013 00:15 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rengar top is currently still really strong, I know a guy who does elo jobs and plays only rengar and basically never loses. Care to link info? I'm really curious as to how to make it work. I've seen a lot of people use a CDR based build with things like Kindle, Bruta, and Glacial, which I like, but perhaps I'm not using good Runes/Masteries/Skill orders. This guy is a pretty high Rengar main. He hasn't streamed for a while but he's got a decent amount of recordings up. http://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/videos?kind=past_broadcasts Looked him up on Lolking.... wow that's pretty damn impressive. Research time~ Didn't take much time he literally only has one mastery page LOL He's only gold though. I feel like there are better Rengars.
He plays on 3 different accounts, one of them is plat or diamond iirc.
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On April 17 2013 01:48 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:46 Alaric wrote:
Zac is broken, it's just he's been designed as a jungler so he sees less play than most (see how Diana and Rengar had success as laners rather than junglers). How does he even lane? He has like no damage by himself. He'd be old style Udyr/WW where you just become invincible in lane but don't do anything special.
But Zac's really strong in teamfights.
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On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Which suddenly becomes absurd. Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:08 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 01:02 Gahlo wrote:On April 17 2013 00:15 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rengar top is currently still really strong, I know a guy who does elo jobs and plays only rengar and basically never loses. Care to link info? I'm really curious as to how to make it work. I've seen a lot of people use a CDR based build with things like Kindle, Bruta, and Glacial, which I like, but perhaps I'm not using good Runes/Masteries/Skill orders. This guy is a pretty high Rengar main. He hasn't streamed for a while but he's got a decent amount of recordings up. http://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/videos?kind=past_broadcasts Looked him up on Lolking.... wow that's pretty damn impressive. Research time~ Didn't take much time he literally only has one mastery page LOL He's only gold though. I feel like there are better Rengars.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21285207#leagues
This is the account he was using in the video I watched, it's Diamond with 97 Rengar games played.
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2-2 in challenger series now. Was nervous to start playing at first but after getting stomped first game I was able to relax and have fun. Not too worried about winning or losing anymore because I feel good enough about my play to get it eventually. Definitely, the best approach to going into a game is to focus on improving yourself. If you can win, great, if not then it's no big deal. That sounded too much like reddit circlejerks.
Mid Riven is best Riven.
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On April 17 2013 01:48 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:46 Alaric wrote:
Zac is broken, it's just he's been designed as a jungler so he sees less play than most (see how Diana and Rengar had success as laners rather than junglers). How does he even lane? He has like no damage by himself. He'd be old style Udyr/WW where you just become invincible in lane but don't do anything special.
Q is imo pretty darn good for a free, ranged harrass. Remember Zac has by far the best base health regen in the game.
I've never actually played Zac but I imagine you can even combo that with his E.
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On April 17 2013 01:52 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 01:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On April 17 2013 00:30 Alaric wrote:On April 16 2013 23:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was seriously tired of wards preventing my ganks or people playing so safe so I bought Rengar. I guess I can go back to jungle Twitch or buy Shaco or Nocturne now. Hecarim is permaban, so Rammoose. Also apart from the "we don't talk about the tribunal here", what does the fact that he is a popular streamer has to do with the fact that you believe he doesn't deserve the ban? ôo Rammus really doesn't circumvent wards well enough. Which suddenly becomes absurd. On April 17 2013 01:08 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 01:02 Gahlo wrote:On April 17 2013 00:15 Requizen wrote:On April 17 2013 00:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rengar top is currently still really strong, I know a guy who does elo jobs and plays only rengar and basically never loses. Care to link info? I'm really curious as to how to make it work. I've seen a lot of people use a CDR based build with things like Kindle, Bruta, and Glacial, which I like, but perhaps I'm not using good Runes/Masteries/Skill orders. This guy is a pretty high Rengar main. He hasn't streamed for a while but he's got a decent amount of recordings up. http://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/videos?kind=past_broadcasts Looked him up on Lolking.... wow that's pretty damn impressive. Research time~ Didn't take much time he literally only has one mastery page LOL He's only gold though. I feel like there are better Rengars. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21285207#leaguesThis is the account he was using in the video I watched, it's Diamond with 97 Rengar games played.
'o' shiny!
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playing zac top definitely reminds me of udyr in that it doesn't really take that long to get to the point where your passive lets you shrug off anything your lane opponent throws at you.
but instead of just being someone hard to kill in teamfights you can get 5-6 knockups/knockbacks off while spamming %hp aoe damage and completely disrupt everything the other team is trying to do.
like your team can be significantly behind during laning but if your opponents stack a little too close together for that first teamfight and your teammates do a decent job of following up when you jump in the game can turn completely around.
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Oh ZAC is free this week.... why did I buy him lol.
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Just how accurate is the lolking score on lolking?
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