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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 21:02:55
April 26 2013 20:54 GMT
#3761
IMO, Fiora is like Twitch in a way. Fight in a narrow place with Hydra, boom boom boom death everywhere.

also,

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Wizidross/lol_champs_by_ulti

113/113, 6 minutes left. i'm too gooooood.
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 26 2013 21:02 GMT
#3762
On April 27 2013 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Says they are considering removing the cast time (or allowing to cast while moving) of sivir's ult
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I found it really strange that Sivir stops while she casts a spell that basically says "Now I'm chasing you" in most cases.


I don't know why people are so excited about this change. It's not going to be any better playing Sivir than it was before the change. As in, Sivir's just not that fun compared to the majority of the ADCs out there. Not to mention that a big part of her kit was how great her ult was. They have long since killed that off
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 26 2013 21:37 GMT
#3763
I feel like Ziggs is just outclassed late game but he's extremely powerful early to mid because his burst kind of sucks late game. His zone control is really out of this world, though.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
April 26 2013 21:46 GMT
#3764
On April 27 2013 05:24 LoCicero wrote:
Also, I'm gonna be really really bad at video games, so there's that...

So basically nothing has changed?

Hue.
twitch.tv/cratonz
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 26 2013 22:20 GMT
#3765
On April 27 2013 06:02 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Says they are considering removing the cast time (or allowing to cast while moving) of sivir's ult
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I found it really strange that Sivir stops while she casts a spell that basically says "Now I'm chasing you" in most cases.


I don't know why people are so excited about this change. It's not going to be any better playing Sivir than it was before the change. As in, Sivir's just not that fun compared to the majority of the ADCs out there. Not to mention that a big part of her kit was how great her ult was. They have long since killed that off

she's kinda fun depending on who you're fighting. cleanse sivir is really fun against heavy CC teams since you literally live on the edge as you stand in front (because of your short range) daring people to CC you. compare to other ADCs like caitlyn where you play like a coward in the back.

of course then there's things like jarvan where spellshield just doesn't matter.

and of course none of this really matters with respect to the change.

imo if they want sivir to be played more in pubs all they need to do is update her model. see: nidalee players.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
April 26 2013 22:42 GMT
#3766
I swear up and down there's some kind of hidden extra lag time on Sivir's shield compared to every other spellshield.
twitch.tv/cratonz
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 26 2013 22:50 GMT
#3767
lmao best riven NA tourney

http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Best_Riven_NA_Tournament

capricious I believe
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 26 2013 23:08 GMT
#3768
capricious wut?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
April 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#3769
On April 27 2013 07:20 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:02 ketchup wrote:
On April 27 2013 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Says they are considering removing the cast time (or allowing to cast while moving) of sivir's ult
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I found it really strange that Sivir stops while she casts a spell that basically says "Now I'm chasing you" in most cases.


I don't know why people are so excited about this change. It's not going to be any better playing Sivir than it was before the change. As in, Sivir's just not that fun compared to the majority of the ADCs out there. Not to mention that a big part of her kit was how great her ult was. They have long since killed that off

she's kinda fun depending on who you're fighting. cleanse sivir is really fun against heavy CC teams since you literally live on the edge as you stand in front (because of your short range) daring people to CC you. compare to other ADCs like caitlyn where you play like a coward in the back.

of course then there's things like jarvan where spellshield just doesn't matter.

and of course none of this really matters with respect to the change.

imo if they want sivir to be played more in pubs all they need to do is update her model. see: nidalee players.


Agreed with the Nidalee threatment. Heck if they would want to go the lazy road they only have to use the Chinese art.

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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 26 2013 23:15 GMT
#3770
1v1 Riven Mirrorwatchup should be very fast games, I wonder if BRNA will participate, he kinda has alot of public pressure now and alot to lose :D.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#3771
I love the Chinese Sivir art more than is healthy, I'm afraid.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 26 2013 23:25 GMT
#3772
On April 27 2013 08:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
capricious wut?


our resident poster Capriciøus is the real best riven NA
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
April 26 2013 23:26 GMT
#3773
How do straight up damage reductions stack? Additively? Multiplicatively? Not at all?

Would a Garen with W up and standing in a maokai ulti have 50% damage reduction from everything except towers that can't be countered by anything?
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#3774
On April 27 2013 08:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I love the Chinese Sivir art more than is healthy, I'm afraid.


That's cause the NA Sivir art is ridiculous. Just compare here:

http://leaguecraft.com/lol-splash-art?champion=&search=sivir&region=0

I thought we got rid of man-sivir, but it's still there. That's not a warrior princess NA!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 23:39:32
April 26 2013 23:32 GMT
#3775
EDIT: Wrong thread, whoops.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 26 2013 23:33 GMT
#3776
On April 27 2013 08:26 Badboyrune wrote:
How do straight up damage reductions stack? Additively? Multiplicatively? Not at all?

Would a Garen with W up and standing in a maokai ulti have 50% damage reduction from everything except towers that can't be countered by anything?

%damage reuction is mult I think. Too OP otherwise.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 26 2013 23:46 GMT
#3777
On April 27 2013 06:02 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 03:01 Alaric wrote:
Says they are considering removing the cast time (or allowing to cast while moving) of sivir's ult
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I found it really strange that Sivir stops while she casts a spell that basically says "Now I'm chasing you" in most cases.


I don't know why people are so excited about this change. It's not going to be any better playing Sivir than it was before the change. As in, Sivir's just not that fun compared to the majority of the ADCs out there. Not to mention that a big part of her kit was how great her ult was. They have long since killed that off

Oh, yeah, she's weak, but she's still fun (which makes her being weak even worse ), and the change is still the kind of QoL changes that can't do bad.

On April 27 2013 07:42 Craton wrote:
I swear up and down there's some kind of hidden extra lag time on Sivir's shield compared to every other spellshield.

There's definitely a little "lag" at the start, the shield doesn't need to be fully formed but it's not effective immediatly.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 26 2013 23:48 GMT
#3778
On April 27 2013 08:33 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:26 Badboyrune wrote:
How do straight up damage reductions stack? Additively? Multiplicatively? Not at all?

Would a Garen with W up and standing in a maokai ulti have 50% damage reduction from everything except towers that can't be countered by anything?

%damage reuction is mult I think. Too OP otherwise.


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ClariS/Escalating_Return:_Damage_Reduction

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 27 2013 00:04 GMT
#3779
That does nothing to confirm or deny the statement that % damage reductions stack multiplicatively (which is correct). The blog discusses the relative value of % damage reduction at different resist values, which is a theorycraft issue, not a mechanics one.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 27 2013 00:14 GMT
#3780
Still have not found an answer to this, is it pointless to get botch Tenacious and Relentless? Do they stack?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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