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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 27 2013 00:17 GMT
#3781
On April 27 2013 09:14 Diamond wrote:
Still have not found an answer to this, is it pointless to get botch Tenacious and Relentless? Do they stack?


They apply to different things. Relentless reduces the efficacy of slows, tenacity the duration.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 27 2013 00:20 GMT
#3782
On April 27 2013 09:17 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 09:14 Diamond wrote:
Still have not found an answer to this, is it pointless to get botch Tenacious and Relentless? Do they stack?


They apply to different things. Relentless reduces the efficacy of slows, tenacity the duration.


Ok that's what I thought, just checking, thanks!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12066 Posts
April 27 2013 00:24 GMT
#3783
On April 27 2013 08:48 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:33 obesechicken13 wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:26 Badboyrune wrote:
How do straight up damage reductions stack? Additively? Multiplicatively? Not at all?

Would a Garen with W up and standing in a maokai ulti have 50% damage reduction from everything except towers that can't be countered by anything?

%damage reuction is mult I think. Too OP otherwise.


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ClariS/Escalating_Return:_Damage_Reduction



I dislike that analysis. The conclusion is based on the weird idea of comparing the 20% reduction to the amount of armor needed to get the same reduction. A much simple calculation leads to a simple result. 20% Damage reduction reduces damage taken by 20%, no matter what your armor is. Thus, it neither scales nor anti-scales with armor.

Also, this thing does not answer the question which was asked. The answer to that question is: It stacks multiplicatively, and multiplicatively with the % reduction coming from armor. Thus, a Garen with W in a maokai ult would take 0.7*0.8= 56% of the damage applied to him, meaning the 20% and 30% reductions stack to a 44% reduction.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 00:31:06
April 27 2013 00:28 GMT
#3784
e : wrong thread
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 00:52:47
April 27 2013 00:52 GMT
#3785
Wow ok forget rushing GP's on Thresh, going Doran's Shield first is so obnoxiously good.

Thresh free week so been playing quite a bit of him. I feel soooooooooooooooooooo tanky with just Doran's Shield + Sightstone into eventually Aegis.

Edit: First buy back home I should say.
Forever Young
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 27 2013 01:00 GMT
#3786
I still build gp's on him to afford my pink ward addiction.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 27 2013 01:21 GMT
#3787
Just dunk people and use the kill/assist money for those wards. You're Thresh!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 27 2013 02:19 GMT
#3788
On April 27 2013 10:21 Alaric wrote:
Just dunk people and use the kill/assist money for those wards. You're Thresh!

there's normal support + ad lanes, then there's thresh who can solo the ad 1v1 np
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 27 2013 03:05 GMT
#3789
cris will be entering and dominating the 1v1 riven thing. first of all what a silly thing, a 1v1 matchup with a champ w/o skillshots, second of all what a silly thing leaving out the original riven player (respect navi, but i mean cris here)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#3790
Confidence is fine, but that's going to come back and bite you in the ass guitar.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 27 2013 03:35 GMT
#3791
On April 27 2013 12:05 gtrsrs wrote:
cris will be entering and dominating the 1v1 riven thing. first of all what a silly thing, a 1v1 matchup with a champ w/o skillshots, second of all what a silly thing leaving out the original riven player (respect navi, but i mean cris here)

^this. Cris was the inventor of bildgewater cutlass riven; fucking most insanely brilliant riven build ever.
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 27 2013 03:38 GMT
#3792
Original != best

see: boxer compared to flash
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 27 2013 03:47 GMT
#3793
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
pls stop the hate, the only one of the players entered that even stands a chance against cris is megazero, and if he's spending time prepping for a 1v1 riven only tournament, that bodes well for us for LCS
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 27 2013 03:53 GMT
#3794
On April 27 2013 12:47 gtrsrs wrote:
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
pls stop the hate, the only one of the players entered that even stands a chance against cris is megazero, and if he's spending time prepping for a 1v1 riven only tournament, that bodes well for us for LCS
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Mega isn't taking it seriously. He's signed up but still joking about how silly the tourney is in all of his tweets about it.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
April 27 2013 03:56 GMT
#3795
A true 1v1 Riven Tournament would have 200+ games per match, with player A playing Riven against Player B doing all 113 champs, and then the reverse.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 27 2013 04:01 GMT
#3796
On April 27 2013 12:56 ChaoSbringer wrote:
A true 1v1 Riven Tournament would have 200+ games per match, with player A playing Riven against Player B doing all 113 champs, and then the reverse.


Except that would depend more on the player's ability with the other champs. In theory, the more Riven oriented players would literally lose every matchup on not-Riven, while a player like Mega would probably manage to win some of the other matchups.

A poorly thought out troll sir.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 04:07:57
April 27 2013 04:04 GMT
#3797
On April 27 2013 13:01 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 12:56 ChaoSbringer wrote:
A true 1v1 Riven Tournament would have 200+ games per match, with player A playing Riven against Player B doing all 113 champs, and then the reverse.


Except that would depend more on the player's ability with the other champs. In theory, the more Riven oriented players would literally lose every matchup on not-Riven, while a player like Mega would probably manage to win some of the other matchups.

A poorly thought out troll sir.


Disagree. At high levels of play, I don't buy for a minute that if you main riven, you wouldn't know how to play optimally vs riven on every single champion in the game. winning vs riven reflects how well you understand riven. Your argument might apply to silver league and below, but if you're the top riven player in the world, you're not going to mysteriously be awful with other champions.

love the idea of a Bo251 series where the remaining games are all mirrors
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 27 2013 04:11 GMT
#3798
Can anyone explain how I just went 81->87->91->93->95->96->80 LP in my last 6 games in Gold I? Am I really supposed to lose 16 points but gaining 1 at 95~ LP? :O
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 27 2013 04:14 GMT
#3799
On April 27 2013 13:11 zodde wrote:
Can anyone explain how I just went 81->87->91->93->95->96->80 LP in my last 6 games in Gold I? Am I really supposed to lose 16 points but gaining 1 at 95~ LP? :O

This is the new topic that needs to be added to the unspeakables. At least take it to the QQ thread or something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 04:15:08
April 27 2013 04:14 GMT
#3800
On April 27 2013 13:11 zodde wrote:
Can anyone explain how I just went 81->87->91->93->95->96->80 LP in my last 6 games in Gold I? Am I really supposed to lose 16 points but gaining 1 at 95~ LP? :O

That's how the league works. Which is why I stopped playing ranked =\

Someone elo-boost me plz DX
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