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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:35:49
April 24 2013 17:34 GMT
#3321
On April 24 2013 22:27 Keniji wrote:
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On April 24 2013 22:22 kongoline wrote:
i noticed some players use 1x 0.28AD glyph so their run page shows 16AD not 15, i changed it myself (well its 1 dmg vs 1 mr) but my ingame lvl1 damage didnt change, does it work at all or its some urban legend?


League does not round. The display is rounded, but the number they calculate with isn't.

So no, It doesn't work.


This is incorrect. The .28AD glyph does work. I'd be willing to bet you were running offensive masteries and had the AD/lvl mastery on. Try it both with and without that mastery and you'll see that your AD will go from 15 to 16 and you will see that if you attack something the damage you did before and after with be up by 1. So ya I'm not saying the .28 AD gives you 1 AD but it bump your AD from 15 to 16.

Also, it does keep track of the .28AD even if it doesn't show up so that skills with really high AD scaling will make use of it. Caitlyn's 250% damage on minions is the only one I can think of. For example, without the +1 blue AD rune Caitlyn's passive will do say 255 damage level. With the .28AD rune, she will do 256.

And yes I don't believe that one crit chance blue works. For whatever reason it doesn't work like attack damage and the stat isn't kept internally by the riot stats, and anything <.5=0 which if that's the case anything >.5=1. If you run a .28% crit chance blue and get a crit let me know, but personally I've tested for hours and hours and have never been able to get a crit with just one blue crit rune.
Retvrn to Forvms
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 24 2013 17:37 GMT
#3322
There will always be problems where somebody just plays what they want to play and ignores the rest of the team. Sometimes they're nice guys and work with the team in whatever crazy unorthodox role they want to play, and that's fine. Sometimes they're assholes and you report them.

But that's not what changing blind pick to a pick order would solve. It would solve issues like this:

3 people log in. One calls top.

Fourth player logs in afterwards, calls top and instalocks a top, even though it's already been called.

Player who called top first gets angry (rightfully) and also locks a top.

Team has been bitching at each other for a minute before the game begins.


There will always be problems with douchebags, but that sort of a system just by the way it's designed creates conflict. It makes you go into a team game with a "champ select is everyone for themselves" attitude. And players start playing the game with that and learn that that's what's correct, which makes draft queues at level 30 not any better because they already have the mindset.

Change it to a pick order when players are still level 1, and they'll respect the pick order a lot more when they're level 30.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:51:04
April 24 2013 17:46 GMT
#3323
On April 25 2013 02:34 Chrispy wrote:
And yes I don't believe that one crit chance blue works. For whatever reason it doesn't work like attack damage and the stat isn't kept internally by the riot stats, and anything <.5=0 which if that's the case anything >.5=1. If you run a .28% crit chance blue and get a crit let me know, but personally I've tested for hours and hours and have never been able to get a crit with just one blue crit rune.

It's possible that has to do with how Riot's PRD function works. I don't know the specifics, but it's possible that the PRD function for such a small crit value results in incrementing probabilities that are so small as to be smaller than the number values that LoL tracks. Which might explain why for incredibly small crit values, you observe no actual crit chance.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 24 2013 17:48 GMT
#3324
On April 24 2013 19:12 Gaslo wrote:
Why did people stop playing Vi? Were the nerfs so bad, or did people just move to the next FOTMs? I have 6100 IP, and were thinking about her or Khazix. He used to be like 100% pick/ban in my elo, now i havent seen even one in the last 2 weeks.

She's still super strong. Not as good a 1v1er early (AD nerfs) nor an objective-killler (W does 6% at level 1 instead of 4%), especially for those who went E>Q>W skill order, but she can still kill drake pretty quickly (especially with a blue buff for more E resets to go around the AS debuff of the drake and proc W more), be built tanky and do her job, and clean-up. I really like the new golem spirit now because CDR is so good on her.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:50:25
April 24 2013 17:49 GMT
#3325
On April 24 2013 06:44 DonKey_ wrote:
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On April 24 2013 06:20 willoc wrote:
On April 24 2013 05:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Then why the fuck is coffee so popular in america?
The new cigarettes I guess.


Same reason fast food is popular too. A slow decline of intellect into convenience.

It's not the same reason. Coffee is popular because of it's effect as a stimulant.

Also don't agree with "Same reason fast food is popular too. A slow decline of intellect into convenience." as even being remotely related. You cannot label people dumb for eating fast food, there is far more to it than that.


Fast food and the usual coffee places like Starbucks have 2 qualities that are the same:
a) They are fast.
b) They are bad quality when compared to what you can make at home or at a higher quality venue that doesn't primarily focus on mass distribution, speed and convenience.

Anyone with reasonable taste for food or coffee would not make either a main place to consume these products (occasional visits are ok - I go to McDonalds sometimes due to nostalgia from eating there as a kid - the taste is very unique). But most people in America do make it their staple choice of venue for consuming that specific product.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 24 2013 17:56 GMT
#3326
Pshh. My Starbucks has this sick new machine that, while slower than just ordering coffee, makes stuff that way outstrips what I could possibly do at home and is just as good as the hipster joint a few blocks down (with the added benefits of being $3 cheaper, and not getting judging stares because all I want is black coffee).
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 24 2013 18:07 GMT
#3327
On April 24 2013 23:35 thenexusp wrote:
I've actually read somewhere that a single crit blue won't give you any crit chance at all, but two will give you ~0.5% as expected.

Is this really true??
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
April 24 2013 18:10 GMT
#3328
On April 25 2013 02:56 cLutZ wrote:
Pshh. My Starbucks has this sick new machine that, while slower than just ordering coffee, makes stuff that way outstrips what I could possibly do at home and is just as good as the hipster joint a few blocks down (with the added benefits of being $3 cheaper, and not getting judging stares because all I want is black coffee).


I drink black normal coffee only. When I tried it at Starbucks I had to throw it away (I have never done this before except for certain instant coffees you can buy at stores). Starbucks coffee was, in my opinion, designed to have sugar and milk added to it in copious amounts. You can tell when you order their speciality drinks: They are so sweet that I can almost only taste sugar. They admit to this because they have a half-sweet version (ever hear of decent coffee place that does this? I haven't). Many people claim that they over-burn their' beans and I would be inclined to agree.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 24 2013 18:13 GMT
#3329
I don't know about crit blue, but 1 crit red 100% gives it.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
April 24 2013 18:16 GMT
#3330
On April 25 2013 02:48 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 19:12 Gaslo wrote:
Why did people stop playing Vi? Were the nerfs so bad, or did people just move to the next FOTMs? I have 6100 IP, and were thinking about her or Khazix. He used to be like 100% pick/ban in my elo, now i havent seen even one in the last 2 weeks.

She's still super strong. Not as good a 1v1er early (AD nerfs) nor an objective-killler (W does 6% at level 1 instead of 4%), especially for those who went E>Q>W skill order, but she can still kill drake pretty quickly (especially with a blue buff for more E resets to go around the AS debuff of the drake and proc W more), be built tanky and do her job, and clean-up. I really like the new golem spirit now because CDR is so good on her.


I was thinking of Khazix for my next champ as well. Any ideas on lack of players playing him?
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:24:40
April 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#3331
There was slight nerfs,but the main reason is people play zed instead, he is still my main and crazy strong
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#3332
'cause he's often banned. Stupid hell of an "assassin" concept design that can splitpush, poke, dps as well, with huge safety and free out of jail cards on top of burst that may not 100-0 people as consistently as a proper assassin but is so spammable and AoE that you only need a target at 80% HP to start cleaning-up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#3333
On April 24 2013 20:16 kongoline wrote:
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On April 24 2013 19:53 Mensol wrote:
I've played Lee Singa top lane other day and it felt super weak -_- #buffleesinga

give me some suggestions please :3

sadly best suggestion is dont play lee unless u r 10x more skilled than ur opponent (or atleast hit the skill cap so u can do sick things with him)

btw cant decide FMJ vs Debonair Jayce, which skin is better?


FMJ is my vote. Debonair looks cool but Jayce is supposed to be cutting edge tech. Suave is cool but it doesn't fit as well for a character like Jayce

On April 24 2013 22:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 22:44 sylverfyre wrote:
edit: Quote and Edit are not the same thing. Oops.


Still a TL noob after all dem posts.


who is dis gai

On April 25 2013 00:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On April 25 2013 00:07 57 Corvette wrote:
I think my addiction to League of Legends has finally come to an end.

Unfortunately now I'm addicted to Mass Effect.


Mass Effect ends. LoL is infinite. You'll be back.

qft

On April 25 2013 02:05 Letmelose wrote:
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On April 25 2013 01:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
that's a shame.


Blame it on the CJ Entus fans. There's always been some fro between the Najin brand and the Frost/Blaze brand and their fans, and as you can see the votes were heavily dominated by players from the two rivaling factions. At first the idea of Locodoco and Madlife were pushed forward by the Frost/Blaze fans, which quickly got slammed down once Riot released the details of their tournament. The backlash from the disappointed Frost/Blaze fans went to the underperforming Maknoon, and Najin fans tried their best to hold off the endless waves of bitter Frost/Blaze fans, and people like me who were persuaded to stop throwing away votes on players like Expession and settle for Shy, but Najin fans eventually got outnumbered. Maknoon tried to appeal to the general public by prompting on epic showdown match, but Frost/Blaze fans were sure of their numbers and didn't want to risk anything, so then went on to attack Maknoon for being rude. It's really petty stuff between the two opposing fans, and Shy will have to represent Korea with Najin fans wishing him the worst of luck.


As always, thanks for the Korean insight, Letmelose.

I'm having baby back ribs and a beer for lunch at home. I feel like a champ.
That is all.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 24 2013 18:42 GMT
#3334
Fuck yo Neo

As much as I like being a cube monkey, it's a beautiful day out today and I want nothing more than to sit outside with a beer.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:43:56
April 24 2013 18:43 GMT
#3335
On April 25 2013 03:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 20:16 kongoline wrote:
On April 24 2013 19:53 Mensol wrote:
I've played Lee Singa top lane other day and it felt super weak -_- #buffleesinga

give me some suggestions please :3

sadly best suggestion is dont play lee unless u r 10x more skilled than ur opponent (or atleast hit the skill cap so u can do sick things with him)

btw cant decide FMJ vs Debonair Jayce, which skin is better?


FMJ is my vote. Debonair looks cool but Jayce is supposed to be cutting edge tech. Suave is cool but it doesn't fit as well for a character like Jayce


Jayce's BACKSTORY is cutting-edge tech (and everyone hates it anyways, remember?), but everything about him in-game is:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


So Debonair Jayce is BETTER.

On April 25 2013 03:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Fuck yo Neo

As much as I like being a cube monkey, it's a beautiful day out today and I want nothing more than to sit outside with a beer.


qft
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 24 2013 18:44 GMT
#3336
khazix is cleanse-proof though
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
April 24 2013 18:46 GMT
#3337
Wish I had tried Zed when he was free for the week. Thinking I'll get Kha'zix since I don't play ranked unless Zed is free again soon.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 24 2013 18:48 GMT
#3338
Debonair Jacye should be LCS banned, cus im sick of it.
Freeeeeeedom
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 24 2013 18:48 GMT
#3339
khazix still good, vi still good.

vi's weakness is that she's mostly single target. (E is unreliable as an AOE and is more or less used for autoattack resets.) in team compositions with assassins like khazix or zed she's pretty redundant. to some extent elise also occupies a similar role if she is on the team as well.

khazix is still ridiculously strong, incredibly mobile and does a lot of damage. and resets.


also zed is free this week.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 24 2013 18:49 GMT
#3340
On April 25 2013 03:48 cLutZ wrote:
Debonair Jacye should be LCS banned, cus im sick of it.


I'm way more annoyed by Death Blossom Elise at this point personally. Also, Primal Udyr is never not used. I know why, but still... never not used.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
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