EPT[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 154
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Halp. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
I think its mostly psychological because when I started viewing him as "op" becuse of how FoTM he got I started doing a lot worse and then the nerfs came and he started to feel underwhelming. I think if you ever think a champ is OP you can get a bit too cocky and be less critical and precise in your play so I think xin is probably still very good. However he is still snowbally in that you can't fall behind on him or he's too squishy to do anything. (udyr is the same but he can absorb a lot more poke and if you can't engage anyway that gives him some advantage, and he's a lot harder to kill early game than xin) | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:39 NeoIllusions wrote: I had a long night and it's too late to sleep now. Halp. Eat an apple and take one to work, apples keep you awake and with energy way better than coffe because the carbohidrates are complex and take longer to metabolize, than regular sugar. That should make you feel better and keep you going | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:54 checo wrote: Eat an apple and take one to work, apples keep you awake and with energy way better than coffe because the carbohidrates are complex and take longer to metabolize, than regular sugar. That should make you feel better and keep you going Apples are pretty low on my fruit totem, haha. But I appreciate the thought. <3 I prefer tea over coffee too. | ||
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Mensol
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Shy will eat him alive. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:02 Mensol wrote: maknoon said to shy 1v1 battle on top o.O Shy will eat him alive. I'm enjoying this 1v1 trend. Hopefully soon we'll see support players doing it with massive stream numbers. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:58 NeoIllusions wrote: Apples are pretty low on my fruit totem, haha. But I appreciate the thought. <3 I prefer tea over coffee too. What types of tea? :3 I've never seen you in the tea enthusiast thread. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:04 Requizen wrote: What types of tea? :3 I've never seen you in the tea enthusiast thread. EARL GREY ALL THE WAY. EARL GREY ALL THE WAY. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:29 NeoIllusions wrote: yanger mathcraft that Madreds + SS > Wriggle's. So you have some basis. But again, no one has really tested it. I do this all the time T_T. Finish wriggles, get Ancient golem. Double jungle is fine, but more recently I've preferred getting double dorans on most of my junglers (save fiddles). I figure games are decided too quickly so might as well get the efficient and cheap dorans. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:39 NeoIllusions wrote: I had a long night and it's too late to sleep now. Halp. skip work play LoL sleep whenever #1 work ethics NA | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:30 NeoIllusions wrote: so mean, Slayer. :< And da fk, if you're still "learning" Udyr, you're bad. Stop being bad mang. I know you can do better. talking about udyr there seems to be a recent rise of udyrs in solo queue on EUW and he has a very high win ratios, atleast in my games :D I see people building him really tanky with swiftness boots+slow reduction (from masteries?)+spirit of the ancient golem for tenacity. He quickly becomes a tanky speedy gonzales which is really really annoying, in all my games those udyrs escaped at like 100hp every fight, too hard to finish him and you can't really ignore him either. | ||
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kongoline
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:22 Dandel Ion wrote: skip work play LoL sleep whenever #1 work ethics NA For me it's skip class watch LoL write about LoL what's sleep? | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:16 obesechicken13 wrote: I do this all the time T_T. Finish wriggles, get Ancient golem. Double jungle is fine, but more recently I've preferred getting double dorans on most of my junglers (save fiddles). I figure games are decided too quickly so might as well get the efficient and cheap dorans. Think he meant not finishing wriggles but instead going madreds and SS is better. | ||
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Lounge
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i was mostly wondering because i have an abysmal jungler pool which is not good when you play the jungler role on your arranged 5s team, and i thought that if i expanded my pool we can run better team comps. but after i bought xin i saw no one use him after that, so i didn't even try him out. On April 24 2013 01:29 Slayer91 wrote: just play like your 2 favourite champions you'll never get any good with that many champs you're trying to play all the time fuck ive played over 1k udyr games and i still haven't "learned" him people trying to "learn" new champs when they've played less than 100 ranked games with almost all their other champs is just laughable if i had my way i'd play mid syndra for 100 straight games. unfortunately in ranked i never get anything besides support. if i'm lucky i get adc. i hate solo queue. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:02 Mensol wrote: maknoon said to shy 1v1 battle on top lane o.O Shy will eat him alive. I don't get why people feel this way. Maknoon is a top laner where teams almost always 2v1 or apply jungle pressure because of how aggressive he is in a standard 1v1. I think in a straight up 1v1 Maknoon should beat Shy but that doesn't mean Maknoon would be a better candidate for All-Stars than Shy. Also wouldn't be surprised if Shy declines the challenge. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:36 kainzero wrote: i was actually hoping for a different response for xin, like his ult isn't good with current AoE meta or something since comps want people bunched together, not spread apart. i was mostly wondering because i have an abysmal jungler pool which is not good when you play the jungler role on your arranged 5s team, and i thought that if i expanded my pool we can run better team comps. but after i bought xin i saw no one use him after that, so i didn't even try him out. if i had my way i'd play mid syndra for 100 straight games. unfortunately in ranked i never get anything besides support. if i'm lucky i get adc. i hate solo queue. conversely if you're against an AoE team splitting them up is great if you have assassins who will melt instantly to AoE its only bad if you're an AoE team yourself the best way to get mid every game is to get high elo when there are less players at your elo and you get first pick a lot more to get elo man up and get good at support easy winz | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 24 2013 01:29 Slayer91 wrote: just play like your 2 favourite champions you'll never get any good with that many champs you're trying to play all the time fuck ive played over 1k udyr games and i still haven't "learned" him people trying to "learn" new champs when they've played less than 100 ranked games with almost all their other champs is just laughable I fail at joking around. :< Yeah that was ironic obviously (though coming back to my roots with Mao/Naut/Rammus made me weep over how painstackingly bad Mao's clear of non-wraiths is, and Rammus felt super natural because of how close his general outlines are to what Mao and Naut made me used to), there's just always this "man that champ was so fun, what happened to him that I stopped playing him?" or "hey, this one looks fun, it'd be interesting to play him", but then you remember that you're still super bad at your "mains" so you won't ever be able to play decently all those champs you like. For me it's something like Talon (could change it to "mid" in general, I never get it anymore >>), Pantheon (gg power creep and people learning to gank earlier) and AD carries (Sivir/Graves easily screwed in lane and scale badly, Draven super fun but dem mechanics too hard). Mid's probably the role that leaves me the most unsatisfied, because a bunch of bruisers have similar roles/mechanics (most of what I learned on Irelia transfered to Jax and in to a lesser extend to Olaf when I picked them up), same could be said of some junglers, for example the build/style with identical outlines for a bunch a "tanky support early ganker double gp5" junglers in s2, AD carries have close mechanics due to relying on the same role (autoattacking when you're not MF) and there isn't that many of them. Supports can be very wide, but same as AD there isn't that many of them. Mids on the other hand, and particularly AP mids (I tend to prefer to play Wukong/Panth top, and I dislike the design behind Zed/Kha'Zix too much to play them), have a wide variety of roles, playstyles, and orientations to pick from, simply having a look at Orianna, Veigar, Diana gives us three vastly different champions, Annie doesn't play the same as Viktor at all, Morgana LeBlanc and Karthus all have entirely different roles, laning, powercurves from each other... and I often feel like their kits implement the weirdest and often most intriguing ideas. It gives you much more work to learn the mechanics and playstyles associated with each, but unless you're the kind that only likes to play agility carries in DotA there should be at least one mid champ that suits your tastes. | ||
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