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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 23 2013 14:39 GMT
#3041
On April 23 2013 22:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
pff, I'm always civil!

What does Nocturne look like in civil-ian clothes?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 23 2013 14:42 GMT
#3042
In a black Armani suit.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 23 2013 14:43 GMT
#3043
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 23 2013 14:49 GMT
#3044
On April 23 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.


Didn't want to terror you on our first outing for ramen.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 23 2013 15:34 GMT
#3045
On April 23 2013 17:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
I haven't seen an upswing of Nunu picks.


You don't play in Bronze league >.<
SUNSFANNED
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
April 23 2013 15:34 GMT
#3046
Tell me more, tell me more. Was it love at first sight?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 23 2013 15:39 GMT
#3047
On April 23 2013 23:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.


Didn't want to terror you on our first outing for ramen.


Woah, what the hell, why was I not invited.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#3048
On April 24 2013 00:39 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.


Didn't want to terror you on our first outing for ramen.


Woah, what the hell, why was I not invited.


Asmo visited SF a month or two ago and we met up for lunch. :3
I think I'm rather friendly. I'd meet up with any TL regular for lunch if they were passing by SF visiting. ^_^
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
April 23 2013 15:49 GMT
#3049
On April 24 2013 00:39 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 23:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.


Didn't want to terror you on our first outing for ramen.


Woah, what the hell, why was I not invited.


soniv mandate with me please. <3

i had mandate with redtooth ~2 years ago since he went to cmu. Not sure where he is now.


i didn't kill him. I swear.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 23 2013 15:52 GMT
#3050
On April 24 2013 00:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 00:39 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 23 2013 23:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
In a black Armani suit.


Not when I saw you.


Didn't want to terror you on our first outing for ramen.


Woah, what the hell, why was I not invited.


Asmo visited SF a month or two ago and we met up for lunch. :3
I think I'm rather friendly. I'd meet up with any TL regular for lunch if they were passing by SF visiting. ^_^


I practically live in SF and you don't visit meeeeeeeeee T_T
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 23 2013 15:54 GMT
#3051
Redtooth tried to eat soloside's fries. RIP redtooth.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 15:59:08
April 23 2013 15:58 GMT
#3052
Why not make up for the xin e cd nerf by getting like cdr blues instead of mr/level? You build tanky on xin anyways.
Yarr?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 23 2013 16:16 GMT
#3053
Actually xins e got exponentially better with cdr because not only does CDR get better the closer you to get 40% anyway but theres also a flat -3 seconds from Q already so that 1 second is a pretty big nerf and getting cdr is good on xin but it was even better before.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 23 2013 16:21 GMT
#3054
Xin tends to prefer HP to resistances because of his ult, MR itemisation isn't that good for junglers like him (basically it's mainly bulwark and mercs—if you don't get golem spirit) so the +25 from runes always help, and you'd want to build CDR on him anyway (his passive and Q mechanic make CDR and flat ArPen his best offensive stats) so I'm not sure you'd gain that much, unless you use enough CDR blues to get a few seconds off of your spells even early on, and the opposite team isn't running double AP.

Rammus has a pretty slow clear without madred's, but damn if the golem spirit isn't good on him. And don't even get me started on Nautilus, holy shit, when you get the least bit fed the combo from an earlier level 5 shield and enough gold to get a bunch of CDR makes you so frighteningly tanky. *_*
I just need to find a way to farm with Mao and Rammus when lanes can't get helped early on (had a Katarina whine while against a Nunu mid, couldn't even get close to them and Kata didn't know how to bait) so I can just pick them whenever I want.
And I need to do that with Mundo too.
And maybe finally learn Amumu properly rather than a single game every blue moon.
But not neglect Vi! Nor Udyr.
While keeping the dust off of my top lane. And getting back to mid sometimes. And try to suck less at AD.
Fuck. LoL is hard.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 16:27:47
April 23 2013 16:27 GMT
#3055
I feel like Udyr is a better place than Xin now.
I look at the nerfs and tbh they don't look that big. But even I'm not as motivated to play Xin atm. @_@
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3056
what do you guys think of double jungle items on some slower but tanky junglers? like madreds + ss-> golem. never done it, but sometimes i'm really tempted...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 16:37:15
April 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3057
just play like your 2 favourite champions you'll never get any good with that many champs you're trying to play all the time

fuck ive played over 1k udyr games and i still haven't "learned" him

people trying to "learn" new champs when they've played less than 100 ranked games with almost all their other champs is just laughable

On April 24 2013 01:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
what do you guys think of double jungle items on some slower but tanky junglers? like madreds + ss-> golem. never done it, but sometimes i'm really tempted...


I was experimenting with that but I havent reached any hard conclusions.

The main result is that you clear faster, but you're squishier. Levels and gold will catch up to that but your early game is slightly weaker however if you are farming a lot faster you will be able to gank more later on.

madreds is 500 gold of armour for 700 gold so basically its only really 200 gold "wasted" (and you'll make it up pretty fast)

HOWEVER until you reach about 1.5k-2k hp hp is by far the best stat for junglers defensively so you're investing in a suboptimal stat.

The idea is you get a fast locket or giants belt if not both with your extra farm and try not to take too many big risks

for what its worth ever since i tried it I tend to do it maybe 75% of games. The games I don't its usually because
a: I get really fed and just get spirit stone upgrade in 1 buy or something and don't need madreds to farm fast
b: I want to mostly try ganking for some reason so I just get madreds and rush defensive items with what little farm I have

NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3058
On April 24 2013 01:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
what do you guys think of double jungle items on some slower but tanky junglers? like madreds + ss-> golem. never done it, but sometimes i'm really tempted...

yanger mathcraft that Madreds + SS > Wriggle's. So you have some basis. But again, no one has really tested it.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 23 2013 16:30 GMT
#3059
On April 24 2013 01:29 Slayer91 wrote:
just play like your 2 favourite champions you'll never get any good with that many champs you're trying to play all the time

fuck ive played over 1k udyr games and i still haven't "learned" him

people trying to "learn" new champs when they've played less than 100 ranked games with almost all their other champs is just laughable


so mean, Slayer. :<
And da fk, if you're still "learning" Udyr, you're bad. Stop being bad mang. I know you can do better.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 16:36:39
April 23 2013 16:35 GMT
#3060
everyones bad
most pro players only play 1 role and 2-3 champs or so maybe changing month to month.
yet people a bunch of roles and much worse than them feel the need to have like 6 champs per role
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