EPTSKT or KT?
And he picks the slumping Korean team.
G_G
[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 151
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
SKT or KT? And he picks the slumping Korean team. G_G | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 23 2013 13:46 wei2coolman wrote: Inb4 he benches you from the writing team. This threat has already been made. Although it was during the Curse v CLG game when Jiji was subbing so tensions were high lol Edit: I said I hoped Jiji threw...that did no go over well xD | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
dang it. no haokai love, lol | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 23 2013 13:53 onlywonderboy wrote: This threat has already been made. Although it was during the Curse v CLG game when Jiji was subbing so tensions were high lol Edit: I said I hoped Jiji threw...that did no go over well xD Hahahahahahaha, why am I not surprised? lol. Let me guess, yango was just sitting in the back laughing at both of you for not worshiping the clearly superior Asian scene? | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On April 23 2013 14:15 wei2coolman wrote: Hahahahahahaha, why am I not surprised? lol. Let me guess, yango was just sitting in the back laughing at both of you for not worshiping the clearly superior Asian scene? Yango doesn't laugh. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
So what does he get? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Don't tell him it's warded, guys. Doesn't, or can't? 0.o | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 23 2013 14:36 Gahlo wrote: + Show Spoiler + Don't tell him it's warded, guys. Doesn't, or can't? 0.o That's why neo is underleveled.  | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Dunno how good she would be as an actual AD b/c of her range and such, but maybe you could put her top or something and build semi-bruiser like was suggested earlier w/ Muramana/IBG | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On April 23 2013 16:09 kainzero wrote: is there some reason why xin fell out of favor? were the nerfs that significant? I'm curious about this, too. He still seemed quite fine after the changes, but he just... stopped. Everyone stopped playing him about two weeks ago. I don't understand it. Talk about Flavour of the Month. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Sona Mid Warwick Jungle Gangplank/Jarvan top team aura whore If they pop everything at max rank, each of them gets: 75ad 30% movespeed 20+ armor 50ap 70% Attack speed That's a lot of free stats....in fact its 9321gold worth of them if you bought them at the shop lol if they whore every aura item they recieve an additional 10Armor 30Mr 20ad 10% lifesteal 30ap 20% spellvamp -20 AS to enemies -20 Mr to enemies sounds pretty interesting, obviously fighting as five would be pretty important. Also all your lanes would be pretty terrible. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Audacious Charge Damage reduced to 70/105/140/175/210 from 70/110/150/190/230. Cooldown increased to 14/13/12/11/10 seconds from 13/12/11/10/9. Crescent Sweep: Base damage reduced to 75/175/275 from 125/225/325. Cooldown increased to 120/110/100 seconds from 100/90/80. Considering he is a really strong ganker from level 3-5 and onward, the nerf doesn't seem to have damper him much imo. It's just players decide to move onto Nasus and Voli (talking about the LCS). | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 23 2013 16:14 Cedstick wrote: I'm curious about this, too. He still seemed quite fine after the changes, but he just... stopped. Everyone stopped playing him about two weeks ago. I don't understand it. Talk about Flavour of the Month. Xin was the number one first pick in the LCS.....he isn't out of favor at all. 3rd most popular jungler barely behind Nasus and Jarvan. He got 2 less picks than Thresh, more than MF, saw him almost 10 more times than Khazix. He was picked almost twice as much as Volibear. If you haven't seen him much in soloque I would guess its because he's not very fun to play. Really simple but strong champs get boring and people stop using them as much. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 23 2013 09:51 kongoline wrote: im so amazed cass is so rarely played i have so much respect for that champion, as jayce mid i never fear to all in lvl2 anyone but holy fuck cass is insane i could never go close to her, she completely melted full tank voli and shen theres not other ap mid with such power Jayce can still kill Cass at level 2. He melts her HP bar faster than she melts his if he gets the jump instead of getting harassed. On April 23 2013 16:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Considering he is a really strong ganker from level 3-5 and onward, the nerf doesn't seem to have damper him much imo. It's just players decide to move onto Nasus and Voli (talking about the LCS). Because soloQ doesn't follow? C'mon, don't tell me NA was spared from the slew of solo lane Nunu this week? On April 23 2013 13:44 onlywonderboy wrote: You should see how sad he gets when the rest of the staff all make fun of CLG for being bad. All the hurt feelings. What did he say about Curse last week-end? :3 On April 23 2013 12:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Honestly, if you play ADC, Frozen Mallet's great for consistent slow/peel and as a defensive item. Randuin's is also up there (depends on the opponents you're facing). EDIT: Her split-push is still strong'ish (I miss old Sivir and toggle W q_q), and her kite is potentially very good...if it weren't for her terrible, terrible autoattack range, in a day and meta when AA range matters a whole helluva lot. Slap a Shiv on anybody with an AoE spell (eg. not Ezreal/Vayne/Graves, though Ez's passive prob. makes him pretty decent) and they'll push just as fast as Sivir. Yeah, she can nuke waves down, but the manacost for it is huge and it only matters if you're close (or at) the enemy tower, until then you only need to kill the wave faster than the next one come to advance (and ideally you'd like to wait until your own next wave reaches your remnants before finishing the enemy wave, so you have a bigger stack of minions to throw at the tower). Sivir doesn't have the escapes of other carries, nor the dps of a Draven, and her Q is too susceptible to being outplayed by any mobility spell (think stuff lik Vayne vs Ez) for her to be a good splitpusher. Even if she had more range, I feel that her passive and ult make her stronger at early levels than later on anyway: the more AS you have, the harder it is to use her passive well, and against mobile champions one slip-up will mean death past a certain point (like Kha'Zix) so she gets mechanically harder to play as time goes by (Graves feel easier to play to me in the same situation, though, because is base AS is so miserable you deal no damage during the time E bought you in the early levels). It's also easier to snipe towers early on when we're talking about the outer ones. Jungle Nasus level 6 means drake whenever the enemy jungler is seen top and you're near said drake, AD Sivir level 6 with a BFS or some other source of AD means dead tower as soon as the enemy botlane (or just AD, depending on the support) backs, unless they shoved you all the way to under your tower (alternatively she helps doing the drake pretty fast). In some circumstances you can also snipe an off-lane inner turret by yourself if the lane is pushed and you see the enemy team elsewhere (trying to mass gank an ally or take your outer on the opposite side of the map, for example). But that's really niche and I don't think any team would let you do that (for the inner turrets), and she doesn't reward you as much as Draven or Vayne for how mechanically demanding she gets. I like her, but she has no real selling point apart from her pre-6 burst when you compare her to AD carries now and the s3 itemisation.  | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 23 2013 17:05 Alaric wrote: WORDS AND STUFF I AGREE WITH I like her, but she has no real selling point apart from her pre-6 burst when you compare her to AD carries now and the s3 itemisation. I think the answer is clear, then; Riot needs to give her back her old W. RIOT PLS. (start at 12:10) And while you're at it, bring back dodge and revert her passive so I can build Tabi on her and lol. EDIT: I tried to find the old replay of when CLG played pre-rework Sivir vs SK Gaming and crushed them. Aura/speedy team (with GP, Galio, Taric, and...Kennen?). Anyone know where it might be lurking? EDITEDIT: Found it. IEM China, Game 3 of SK vs CLG. I feel so old now; 2.5 years ago. On another note, looking back on the game, apparently CLG pioneered the lane switch meta. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
As for Sivir's old W, her new one is actually better imo for an ADC. Her old one is better for a split pusher. W as an auto attack reset is really really strong. I think if they nerfed some of her damage numbers on her skills and gave her 550 range she'd be fine but if they did that she might lose her "feel" and then the five people who play Sivir would be upset. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 23 2013 17:26 overt wrote: The Sivir pick in that game was only because they were against an AP Janna mid. They ran Sivir because she could punish Janna and take tower before Janna could get Q to a high enough level to wave clear. As for Sivir's old W, her new one is actually better imo for an ADC. Her old one is better for a split pusher. W as an auto attack reset is really really strong. I think if they nerfed some of her damage numbers on her skills and gave her 550 range she'd be fine but if they did that she might lose her "feel" and then the five people who play Sivir would be upset. I remember that. The thing is, Sivir also meshed well with their overall team comp (auras+lots and lots of speed for Galio/Kennen initiate, and Janna mid with cleanse can only stop one of the two). She was a niche pickup to be sure, but a niche is better then the state she is in now. People still picked her as a pusher/strange hypercarry in tournaments/scrims. After the rework, there was a brief period of OP reworked Sivir (and the Sivir/Vayne/Graves trinity), before she fell off the map due to nerfs and meta changes. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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