EPT[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 126
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Nos-
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Chrispy
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I'd go so far as to say that have more of an impact than top lane. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 21 2013 09:08 obesechicken13 wrote: All the roles need skill. Late game I like having my map warded and for my ADC to not die first every fight. Ideally, yes, you want madlife as support. Unfortunately, the problem is teams are probably best at throwing away the good work of a support. This is the same reason you don't play Nunu jungle in soloq (even when he was a strong Competitive jungler). | ||
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Sufficiency
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As far as laning goes, supports are expected to have lane presence - well, every lane needs lane presence unless you are in a situation which you got counterpicked so hard that you don't care anymore. But supports do not need to last hit, so their pressure is lower in term of the number of things they need to do in lane. And for teamfights, supports again have low pressure because they are rarely targeted first. Lulu has high skillcap, right? But all you are doing in a teamfight is spamming your Q/E and press R when needed. Yes I do play support in soloQ, it's my second most preferred role. I don't think they have low impact, but it definitely does not take as much skills to play support reasonably competitively than other roles - Elementz is the prime example of this. | ||
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daemir
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Ryuu314
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Sufficiency
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On April 21 2013 09:19 Ryuu314 wrote: Supports have low skill floor, but very high skill cap. Look at Madlife and tell me he doesn't carry games. This is probably better than what I just said. | ||
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Juicyfruit
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red_
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On April 21 2013 09:15 Sufficiency wrote: I feel supports do take less skills than a mid or off-laner - and certainly take less skills than an ADC. Before you curse me to die in a fire, here's what I think: As far as laning goes, supports are expected to have lane presence - well, every lane needs lane presence unless you are in a situation which you got counterpicked so hard that you don't care anymore. But supports do not need to last hit, so their pressure is lower in term of the number of things they need to do in lane. And for teamfights, supports again have low pressure because they are rarely targeted first. Lulu has high skillcap, right? But all you are doing in a teamfight is spamming your Q/E and press R when needed. Yes I do play support in soloQ, it's my second most preferred role. I don't think they have low impact, but it definitely does not take as much skills to play support reasonably competitively than other roles - Elementz is the prime example of this. Supports(well, good ones) pay attention to creep hp just like they were last hitting though, because it plays a huge part in setting up whatever plays you want to make. Same goes for 'not being targetted' in teamfight, who cares? They are watching everyone's hp(this isn't a support only thing either) because they need to know which decisions to make, it's not 100% just sit on ADC and peel for him. Edit: This last line was unnecessary, sincere apology if I didn't edit in time Sufficiency. | ||
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greggy
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Alaric
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On April 21 2013 07:33 qanik wrote: quick question, how does one get into challenger league? From my understanding is that you get a promotion serie at D1, but what happens if there aren't available spot in the league? Pretty sure you just have to get a higher MMR than someone else that's in challenger. and you kick them out as you get promoted in (and that person isn't currently in the 7-day immunity period) | ||
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Alaric
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On April 21 2013 09:56 Alaric wrote: Jimbz jungling AD Kennen on EUW. Wtf. x) Kennen could somewhat jungle in s1 when the jungle was 'hard' and killed people... I dunno that I'm 'surprised' people don't do it more but I'm not shocked that someone is playing around with it. | ||
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Chrispy
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Alaric
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On April 21 2013 10:06 red_ wrote: Kennen could somewhat jungle in s1 when the jungle was 'hard' and killed people... I dunno that I'm 'surprised' people don't do it more but I'm not shocked that someone is playing around with it. He's dunking. Too bad people don't group up and their Fiora picked after the enemy team had Lee and Fiddle. And that there's the stupidly broken Zac on the enemy team. Oh, wait. They're managing to bash Fiddle's head in before he could do too much and then Kog > Vayne late game. Jimbz was farming a lot though, ended up with more gold than Fiora, about as much as Kog, and only kills (from clean-ups) put Jarvan ahead; So not jungle gold. :') | ||
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Alaric
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(He stills destroys squishies with just ult and W though, 'cause Zac. Too bad those don't work on towers.) | ||
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Dusty
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On April 21 2013 10:09 Chrispy wrote: Is it just me or does this gregidot fella look like Deezer? wot they look nothing alike o-o | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2013 09:32 red_ wrote: Supports(well, good ones) pay attention to creep hp just like they were last hitting though, because it plays a huge part in setting up whatever plays you want to make. Same goes for 'not being targetted' in teamfight, who cares? They are watching everyone's hp(this isn't a support only thing either) because they need to know which decisions to make, it's not 100% just sit on ADC and peel for him. Edit: This last line was unnecessary, sincere apology if I didn't edit in time Sufficiency. All the watching HP part.... you also do that as a laner. | ||
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ermogh
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