EPT[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 128
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On April 21 2013 13:58 wei2coolman wrote: Don't you know? Hitting Sona ults requires concentration. in the clg vs mrn game, i think aphro hit like 9/10 sona ults. everyone makes fun of him for missing that 1 ult. sona is hard to play. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
its a battlecry | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On April 21 2013 15:18 ticklishmusic wrote: its not a missed ult its a battlecry that's xiaoxiao we're talking about aphro | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
you have to stand there all game and try not to die while forcing yourself not to make plays because when you do their jungler is always there so it's just being patient for 40 minutes and sacrificing yourself to ensure your AD escapes when they overextend with no summoners rather jungle any day 420 noscope mlg plays yolo blaze it but then again I am a jungle/mid main, I make da plays | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Aphro pullin the Xiaoxiao. He knows what wins games.  | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
I typically play: Mid - Kha - Kayle - Annie - Ryze Top - Riven - Jax - Shen - Teemo Jungle - Hecarim - Shen - Amumu send me a pm | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 21 2013 15:16 kainzero wrote: in the clg vs mrn game, i think aphro hit like 9/10 sona ults. everyone makes fun of him for missing that 1 ult. sona is hard to play. For me playing Support in pro-team is like playing the Goal Keeper in soccer. You make countless save and awesome plays during the game, but just one mistake you made and let the opponent score, you are the sinner, you are the one to blame. While ADC on the other hand, is the Striker in soccer, you can waste your time doing stupid shits ALL GAME LONG, but you score the winning goal(like an ADC clean up with a quadra/penta kills) you are the hero, there will songs that people will sing about you. Life is hard and unfair. EDIT: Mogwai is duo-Q with Freak rightnow. Wtf? | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
shy also catching up to maknoon, a 4.7% lead for maknoob | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 21 2013 17:32 Caphe wrote: For me playing Support in pro-team is like playing the Goal Keeper in soccer. You make countless save and awesome plays during the game, but just one mistake you made and let the opponent score, you are the sinner, you are the one to blame. While ADC on the other hand, is the Striker in soccer, you can waste your time doing stupid shits ALL GAME LONG, but you score the winning goal(like an ADC clean up with a quadra/penta kills) you are the hero, there will songs that people will sing about you. Life is hard and unfair. EDIT: Mogwai is duo-Q with Freak rightnow. Wtf? yeah this Support has huge impact on the game HOWEVER it's much easier to be a bad support and go unnoticed than some other role. Remember nobody votes for cop even though he had extremely solid kda and shit and did well in lcs? It's because elementz sucks at supports so they don't dominate lanes. Curse struggling in LCS? Saint having trouble jungling when bot is always losing and voyboy plays aggressive so the junglers can camp him and saint can only be either top or bot and he likes to farm a lot too. And in teamfights, supports have tons of room to make plays, you don't get focused so you can make a lot of aggressive plays on their back line and change the momentum of the fight. However you can just sit on the back and sit next to your AD and nobody will notice because supports aren't expected to be sort of reactionary and sitting next to your AD is often a good thing to do if you don't see any plays to make. Theres a reason you see edward getting tons of kills and its not because he's ksing it's just because he's killing shit and isn't going to risk losing kills to try to let the ad get the gold because it doesn't matter that much it's pretty easy to farm than 300 gold on AD carry anyway if he REALLY needs it. On April 21 2013 13:11 LazyFailKid wrote: Udyr PBE changes + Show Spoiler + PERSISTENT EFFECT Now grants bonus damage equal to 15% of Udyr's total attack damage, instead of attack speed. STANCE ACTIVATION Bonus attack speed increased to 30/40/50/60/70% from 15/20/25/30/35% (total attack speed unchanged). Bonus damage changed to physical damage from magical damage. Scaling changed to 130/140/150/160/170% total AD from 150% total AD. O_O Am I thinking this is bigger then it really is or is this going to push udyr into firstpick/firstban status. right now nobody is playing tiger udyr so buffing it is the logical way to go about things. Nobody played tiger jungle anyway and they fucked over tiger top lane hardcore with the turtle mana nerf. The rank 5 tiger scaling is just the same as what it used to be before they nerfed tiger q because tiger top was strong when you could get old wriggles and be unkillable. The only real buff is the 15% AD bonus which seems pretty big but again udyr has no mobility at all so he needs a lot of compensation to match up to the other guys. It might make tiger jungle a bit better but the problem with that is with tiger udyr you want to build some damage and still get tanky and when you already farm slower than pheonix which builds almost pure tank you already have less gold. Top lane gets a bit more gold and xp to play with more damage items but now udyr can't sustain like he used to so when before he could lane against any ranged hero with W max he might be more anti melee now. OH and they changed it to physical damage which is a significant nerf because you can just stack armour now and everyone already has way more armour and mr just from base stats and itemization. So yeah he's going to be far from first pick first ban rofl. however they want to encourage shit like black cleaver udyr, because all people were doing was going trinity or BoTRK into tank. The ad scaling wasnt enough to justify building AD so you just did botrk/trinity into tank, just like every other bruiser top laner and they want some diversity I guess. | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On April 21 2013 17:32 Caphe wrote: For me playing Support in pro-team is like playing the Goal Keeper in soccer. You make countless save and awesome plays during the game, but just one mistake you made and let the opponent score, you are the sinner, you are the one to blame. While ADC on the other hand, is the Striker in soccer, you can waste your time doing stupid shits ALL GAME LONG, but you score the winning goal(like an ADC clean up with a quadra/penta kills) you are the hero, there will songs that people will sing about you. Life is hard and unfair. EDIT: Mogwai is duo-Q with Freak rightnow. Wtf? Best part is when you get double kill at bot and whole team is praising your almighty right clicking skills while poor support that outplayed the crap out of enemies doesnt get shit ;O | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On April 21 2013 18:03 Slayer91 wrote: I dunno when I play everyone always goes "gj bot" or if they are feeding "this bot so bad". You only reference the individual if he's specifically failing really hard or if you're talking to your lane partner yourself. had plenty of games where support dies early and i end up cleaning up, then everyone forgets that support existed at some point. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On April 21 2013 18:07 Slayer91 wrote: i'd probably still see "gj bot" in that situation unless the support really fucked up instead of baiting like a boss maybe i get way too many dick teammates, dunno  Btw, why are there so few namis? from my experience shes godlike autowin button | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
But I really don't think people should call support the easiest role. The least mechanical role? Probably. But it's quite a bit more difficult than ADC imo. While it requires less mechanical skill it requires a lot more thinking, split second decision making, and game sense. Also, if anything, supports don't get enough blame because people don't want to play it so often times someone gets forced into it and then people feel like they can't criticize their support for playing team fights poorly and shit. So often I've seen Leona/Sona/Blitz initiate really badly or seen terrible team fights from the support and people blame everyone but the support who did absolutely nothing. I think good support play gets praised quite often and bad support play is ignored more frequently than bad play from any of the other roles is. Could just be my experiences though. Nami's really underrated imo. I can't play her but I really like her with certain ADCs. She has a lot of lane and team fight presence. | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
Nami's e is insane, q sets up glorious poke and w turns bot lane fights around, not to mention that ulti is gamebreaking, the most underrated champion atm imho | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
For more information about Asian Indoor Games: http://www.aimag2013.org/en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Indoor_Games Held in Incheon this year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Asian_Indoor-Martial_Arts_Games Look under Sports Programs tab and you will see the esports section. There isn't much information on the site except the games. Again, right now its the qualifiers for the main tournament that will be held in June/July. I think technically they are picking the Korean representatives for the Asian Indoor Games, but I'm not sure how many other Asian countries are involved in the esports section so it doesn't seem very different from a qualifier tournament. You can watch the LoL qualifier in korean from nicegametv: http://nicegame.tv/new/ They stream it in afreeca and ustream, scroll down from the their main website and it should be live in ustream. Currently (first streamed match): MVP Ozone vs CJ Entus Blaze | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + this discussion is real constructive, like | ||
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