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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
I hate you all | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Agreed: despite low mobility, the CC he brings is nearly Ashe level (AoE slow and AoE root), and his base damages are really good if you hit the spells. I tried a max Q over max E second on him once: it was rather funny how much your poke chunks squishies with only a BT in the midgame. Plus slightly longer AA range sets him out from the pack abit. I could see zephyr rush being fairly effective on him. Considering how blight stacks work, early AS bonus is nice. No escape but decent slow CC; makes 10% MS amazing. Gets a huge chunk of CDR. Decent amount of AD. I don't see why it couldn't work. On April 04 2013 11:04 phyvo wrote: Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane. Don't even need the mono. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On April 04 2013 10:58 wei2coolman wrote: It's super slow animation for it; such a long travel time. The only thing that's longer in travel time is karthus auto attack. Varus is extremely power, his lane dominance and midgame power spike is pretty silly not to ignore, especially considering how blight stack works he can chunk through tanks HARD. I'm really surprised how viable he is with no real strong form of escape; I think the strong ward coverage of s3 made him viable as fuck (since no escape). If you're using the same pun twice, you're not gunna have a Ice time. That's cold, wei2coolman. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Chill out, Soniv.  | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
we just beat PL's team in ranked 5's ^o^ | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
TL LoL forums, now with more cheesy puns than a Blizzard game. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:07 Dusty wrote: yay we just beat PL's team in ranked 5's ^o^ Who's your team? | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
Oh, come on. It's a great way to break the ice! | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
So when Lissandra's release is behind schedule somebody'll feel compelled to yell "Chill, get out!"? | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Wow, that's cold man. On April 04 2013 11:04 phyvo wrote: Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane. Don't eat too much icing though. On April 04 2013 11:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Agreed: despite low mobility, the CC he brings is nearly Ashe level (AoE slow and AoE root), and his base damages are really good if you hit the spells. I tried a max Q over max E second on him once: it was rather funny how much your poke chunks squishies with only a BT in the midgame. Plus slightly longer AA range sets him out from the pack abit. Hm. Varus' ultimate however is not unconditional. It's range is still limited and tbh by the late-game spell casting is much less useful compared to direct autoattacks and stutter-step micro. He does however have a much stronger mid-game and laning phase than Ashe thanks to his spell power, and split damage type is also really good. Stacking and proc'ing blight stacks is also very realistic in skirmishes. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
right now its me, heartxp (2+2), and a few random dudes from other places | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On April 04 2013 10:01 nafta wrote: Draven shits on vayne a lot harder than cait. I'd recommend learning cait and varus.Draven is really good too but it will take time to get good at him. You can go bork on varus in some situations for the ultimate peel but other than that it's not a very good item.Sort of ok if they have a tank team and you are behind since you'll do more dmg with it+lw instead of ie+zeal. Only way to beat cait is to outplay her.There is no magic items/simple thing you can do  .Against draven you just need to poke him early and try to grab a kill.Use exhaust and other slows/knockbacks w/e to prevent him from catching axes in an all in.If you don't get a kill early lane will be quite hard as his sustain is kind of broken.As for counterpicks I'd say cait(skill mu)/varus(a VERY well played ashe) beat draven and against cait anything can work but you have to outplay her.Generally easiest with draven/ez/ashe/varus. Also draven is REALLY strong even if you go even.Don't listen to these confused people who seem to think he falls off >.>. Draven doesn't fall off I agree. I'd just prefer a Varus/Ashe/Vayne/Twitch/Sivir over a Draven, if they went even in lane. That's what I mean when I say if you go even you're fine. Seriously though, if you're passed 6, and have a hard engage support, just all in Cait. She can't use her ult in skirmishes like that, while most other ADC have a useful skirmish ult. @above E max second? I thought you max E first. That's what I've been seeing Koreans do, and the harass from it is insane. Definitely like their skill order of R>E>W>Q. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:I could see zephyr rush being fairly effective on him. Considering how blight stacks work, early AS bonus is nice. No escape but decent slow CC; makes 10% MS amazing. Gets a huge chunk of CDR. Decent amount of AD. I don't see why it couldn't work. Ok now that is interesting. Zephyr first won't cut it since BT makes his spells spike in damage (and BotRK is an all-around better first item AS item for DPS), but Zephyr second over PD/Shiv? Hmm. 50g more then PD, but 30% Crit vs. +25 AD, +5% MS, 10% CDR, and 35% tenacity. That actually sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:14 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ok now that is interesting. Zephyr first won't cut it since BT makes his spells spike in damage (and BotRK is an all-around better first item AS item for DPS), but Zephyr second over PD/Shiv? Hmm. 50g more then PD, but 30% Crit vs. +25 AD, +5% MS, 10% CDR, and 35% tenacity. That actually sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff. Well considering that Zephyr is 1k gold efficient for all its stats (not including tenacity); while non-stacked BT is breakeven in costs, is definitely something to consider. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35150 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:15 wei2coolman wrote: The fact that Varus's can get away with missing all those Chains, yet still have such a huge impact in the game speaks volumes to how strong the rest of his kit is. The same can't be said about Ashe though. Passive snowballs the fuck out of teamfights. I really need to finish that guide. >.> | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:15 wei2coolman wrote: The fact that Varus's can get away with missing all those Chains, yet still have such a huge impact in the game speaks volumes to how strong the rest of his kit is. The same can't be said about Ashe though. Unfortunately. As a formerly big Ashe player back in Season 1 and the first half of Season 2, the meta has been pretty unforgiving for her. Enemy team has dive, or Zed? Ashe dead, unless you have very potent peel. Against teams that mostly rely on AS or kiting or poke, however, Ashe does alright (but not enough compared to other ADCs in that situation). It's so sad, my first 1v4 quadra was with (a decently farmed) Ashe back in the beginning of S2, all accomplished with proper kiting and orbwalking. D: I didn't even have arrow too! On April 04 2013 11:19 wei2coolman wrote: Well considering that Zephyr is 1k gold efficient for all its stats (not including tenacity); while non-stacked BT is breakeven in costs, is definitely something to consider. It definitely is: the thing is a BF/BT in lane is huge, versus AS. AA poke/trade doesn't rely on AS to the same degree as on AD, and a vamp to BT is tremendously good sustain (again important in lane). Once you move out of the lane phase into the midgame movement/skirmishes/teamfights, Zephyr's stats become much more useful. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On April 04 2013 11:08 Ketara wrote: TL LoL forums, now with more cheesy puns than a Blizzard game. for the starcraft comparison, im surprised you didnt get hit by a mod's frozen mallet. i guess its cuz its the april fool's GD. btw soniv stop being so frigid. | ||
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