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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 04 2013 02:04 GMT
#981
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
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On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:05:01
April 04 2013 02:04 GMT
#982
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:07:55
April 04 2013 02:05 GMT
#983
On April 04 2013 11:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
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On April 04 2013 10:58 wei2coolman wrote:
It's super slow animation for it; such a long travel time. The only thing that's longer in travel time is karthus auto attack.
Varus is extremely power, his lane dominance and midgame power spike is pretty silly not to ignore, especially considering how blight stack works he can chunk through tanks HARD. I'm really surprised how viable he is with no real strong form of escape; I think the strong ward coverage of s3 made him viable as fuck (since no escape).

Agreed: despite low mobility, the CC he brings is nearly Ashe level (AoE slow and AoE root), and his base damages are really good if you hit the spells. I tried a max Q over max E second on him once: it was rather funny how much your poke chunks squishies with only a BT in the midgame.

Plus slightly longer AA range sets him out from the pack abit.

I could see zephyr rush being fairly effective on him.
Considering how blight stacks work, early AS bonus is nice.
No escape but decent slow CC; makes 10% MS amazing.
Gets a huge chunk of CDR.
Decent amount of AD.
I don't see why it couldn't work.
On April 04 2013 11:04 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane.

Don't even need the mono.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2013 02:05 GMT
#984
On April 04 2013 10:58 wei2coolman wrote:
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On April 04 2013 10:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
Draven and Twitch are must learn champions right now. They definitely supplement proper laning early on. Meaning they're good early on and scale to awsum if you're doing everything right.

I'm still up in the air about Varus. He's obviously good in heavy CC comp but shit Chains 2nd hardest ultimate to land, amirite?

It's super slow animation for it; such a long travel time. The only thing that's longer in travel time is karthus auto attack.
Varus is extremely power, his lane dominance and midgame power spike is pretty silly not to ignore, especially considering how blight stack works he can chunk through tanks HARD. I'm really surprised how viable he is with no real strong form of escape; I think the strong ward coverage of s3 made him viable as fuck (since no escape).
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.

If you're using the same pun twice, you're not gunna have a Ice time.


That's cold, wei2coolman.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:06:58
April 04 2013 02:06 GMT
#985
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all


Chill out, Soniv.

FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 04 2013 02:07 GMT
#986
yay

we just beat PL's team in ranked 5's ^o^
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:09:14
April 04 2013 02:08 GMT
#987
On April 04 2013 11:06 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all


Chill out, Soniv.




TL LoL forums, now with more cheesy puns than a Blizzard game.

http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 04 2013 02:08 GMT
#988
On April 04 2013 11:07 Dusty wrote:
yay

we just beat PL's team in ranked 5's ^o^

Who's your team?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
April 04 2013 02:09 GMT
#989
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all

Oh, come on. It's a great way to break the ice!
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 04 2013 02:10 GMT
#990
On April 04 2013 11:06 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all


Chill out, Soniv.


So when Lissandra's release is behind schedule somebody'll feel compelled to yell "Chill, get out!"?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 04 2013 02:10 GMT
#991
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all

Wow, that's cold man.

On April 04 2013 11:04 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


Comments like these bestow on me sensations that my cavity is surrounded by pipes containing monochlorodifluoromethane.

Don't eat too much icing though.

On April 04 2013 11:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 10:58 wei2coolman wrote:
It's super slow animation for it; such a long travel time. The only thing that's longer in travel time is karthus auto attack.
Varus is extremely power, his lane dominance and midgame power spike is pretty silly not to ignore, especially considering how blight stack works he can chunk through tanks HARD. I'm really surprised how viable he is with no real strong form of escape; I think the strong ward coverage of s3 made him viable as fuck (since no escape).

Agreed: despite low mobility, the CC he brings is nearly Ashe level (AoE slow and AoE root), and his base damages are really good if you hit the spells. I tried a max Q over max E second on him once: it was rather funny how much your poke chunks squishies with only a BT in the midgame.

Plus slightly longer AA range sets him out from the pack abit.

Hm. Varus' ultimate however is not unconditional. It's range is still limited and tbh by the late-game spell casting is much less useful compared to direct autoattacks and stutter-step micro. He does however have a much stronger mid-game and laning phase than Ashe thanks to his spell power, and split damage type is also really good. Stacking and proc'ing blight stacks is also very realistic in skirmishes.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 04 2013 02:12 GMT
#992
The quotes chain for all our puns is getting all broken up, it's turning from a hail of quotes into a slush.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 04 2013 02:13 GMT
#993
On April 04 2013 11:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:07 Dusty wrote:
yay

we just beat PL's team in ranked 5's ^o^

Who's your team?


right now its me, heartxp (2+2), and a few random dudes from other places
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:15:35
April 04 2013 02:14 GMT
#994
On April 04 2013 10:01 nafta wrote:
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On April 04 2013 09:43 RagequitBM wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:27 .AK wrote:
Hey all, I recently got back into playing some LoL and have a few questions about the changes in the game since I left, namely Season 3. I decided to focus on ad carry and ignore learning anything else for a while.

-What are some good/bad matchups for bot lane? I know at that my skill level a good player will when any lane but I don't want to set myself up for failure in the picking screen. I see a lot of Cait and Draven at my level and don't have either of them so learning how to counterplay them would be nice.

-Did the Season 3 item updates change anything for ad carry's builds? Truth be told I have played four games and haven't even looked at the new items so knowing some of the standard builds would be helpful. Right now I am still going to the old trifecta of IE/PD/LW which has been working fairly well but feels outdated.

I stopped playing with the release of Jayce and any help would be much appreciated.

Also, I am really late on this but grats on the modship Mr. Bear from the moon
Ahh sheet and Yango, mods all over the place

I'm an ADC main around silver 2 so take my opinion for what its worth but I don't think you can really be countered ADC wise. Its mostly about supports. Probably the closest thing I can think of to a harcounter is something like caitlyn lulu vs vayne. Other than that you can pick pretty much any adc. And be fine against anyone.
Counterplay to caitlyn is to play safe early and then stomp her after 6 because she can't use her ult in duels. Against draven as long as you go even and aren't caitlyn you should be in good shape.

Standard item builds are pretty much the same with a static shiv instead of PD sometimes. Or bork first on vayne if you wanna be spunky.


Draven shits on vayne a lot harder than cait.

I'd recommend learning cait and varus.Draven is really good too but it will take time to get good at him.

You can go bork on varus in some situations for the ultimate peel but other than that it's not a very good item.Sort of ok if they have a tank team and you are behind since you'll do more dmg with it+lw instead of ie+zeal.

Only way to beat cait is to outplay her.There is no magic items/simple thing you can do .Against draven you just need to poke him early and try to grab a kill.Use exhaust and other slows/knockbacks w/e to prevent him from catching axes in an all in.If you don't get a kill early lane will be quite hard as his sustain is kind of broken.

As for counterpicks I'd say cait(skill mu)/varus(a VERY well played ashe) beat draven and against cait anything can work but you have to outplay her.Generally easiest with draven/ez/ashe/varus.

Also draven is REALLY strong even if you go even.Don't listen to these confused people who seem to think he falls off >.>.

Draven doesn't fall off I agree. I'd just prefer a Varus/Ashe/Vayne/Twitch/Sivir over a Draven, if they went even in lane. That's what I mean when I say if you go even you're fine.
Seriously though, if you're passed 6, and have a hard engage support, just all in Cait. She can't use her ult in skirmishes like that, while most other ADC have a useful skirmish ult.

@above E max second? I thought you max E first. That's what I've been seeing Koreans do, and the harass from it is insane. Definitely like their skill order of R>E>W>Q.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
April 04 2013 02:14 GMT
#995
On April 04 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:I could see zephyr rush being fairly effective on him.
Considering how blight stacks work, early AS bonus is nice.
No escape but decent slow CC; makes 10% MS amazing.
Gets a huge chunk of CDR.
Decent amount of AD.
I don't see why it couldn't work.

Ok now that is interesting.

Zephyr first won't cut it since BT makes his spells spike in damage (and BotRK is an all-around better first item AS item for DPS), but Zephyr second over PD/Shiv? Hmm. 50g more then PD, but 30% Crit vs. +25 AD, +5% MS, 10% CDR, and 35% tenacity.

That actually sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 04 2013 02:15 GMT
#996
The fact that Varus's can get away with missing all those Chains, yet still have such a huge impact in the game speaks volumes to how strong the rest of his kit is. The same can't be said about Ashe though.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 04 2013 02:19 GMT
#997
On April 04 2013 11:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:05 wei2coolman wrote:I could see zephyr rush being fairly effective on him.
Considering how blight stacks work, early AS bonus is nice.
No escape but decent slow CC; makes 10% MS amazing.
Gets a huge chunk of CDR.
Decent amount of AD.
I don't see why it couldn't work.

Ok now that is interesting.

Zephyr first won't cut it since BT makes his spells spike in damage (and BotRK is an all-around better first item AS item for DPS), but Zephyr second over PD/Shiv? Hmm. 50g more then PD, but 30% Crit vs. +25 AD, +5% MS, 10% CDR, and 35% tenacity.

That actually sounds like a pretty sweet tradeoff.

Well considering that Zephyr is 1k gold efficient for all its stats (not including tenacity); while non-stacked BT is breakeven in costs, is definitely something to consider.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 04 2013 02:20 GMT
#998
On April 04 2013 11:15 wei2coolman wrote:
The fact that Varus's can get away with missing all those Chains, yet still have such a huge impact in the game speaks volumes to how strong the rest of his kit is. The same can't be said about Ashe though.

Passive snowballs the fuck out of teamfights. I really need to finish that guide. >.>
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:25:23
April 04 2013 02:20 GMT
#999
On April 04 2013 11:15 wei2coolman wrote:
The fact that Varus's can get away with missing all those Chains, yet still have such a huge impact in the game speaks volumes to how strong the rest of his kit is. The same can't be said about Ashe though.

Unfortunately. As a formerly big Ashe player back in Season 1 and the first half of Season 2, the meta has been pretty unforgiving for her. Enemy team has dive, or Zed? Ashe dead, unless you have very potent peel.

Against teams that mostly rely on AS or kiting or poke, however, Ashe does alright (but not enough compared to other ADCs in that situation).

It's so sad, my first 1v4 quadra was with (a decently farmed) Ashe back in the beginning of S2, all accomplished with proper kiting and orbwalking. D:

I didn't even have arrow too!

On April 04 2013 11:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Well considering that Zephyr is 1k gold efficient for all its stats (not including tenacity); while non-stacked BT is breakeven in costs, is definitely something to consider.

It definitely is: the thing is a BF/BT in lane is huge, versus AS. AA poke/trade doesn't rely on AS to the same degree as on AD, and a vamp to BT is tremendously good sustain (again important in lane).

Once you move out of the lane phase into the midgame movement/skirmishes/teamfights, Zephyr's stats become much more useful.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:22:54
April 04 2013 02:21 GMT
#1000
On April 04 2013 11:08 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:06 Praetorial wrote:
On April 04 2013 11:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:58 Ketara wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On April 04 2013 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On April 04 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
On April 04 2013 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Does she at least have the good old cliché "if everything is covered in ice i have ended all suffering, thus i am the good one!" motivation?

Only unless we get some really ice puns.


That would be cool.

Don't need to buy a frozen heart on her, she already has one.

More puns, guys. TL has to stay frosty.


I love it when we do this, it's so cool.


I hate you all


Chill out, Soniv.




TL LoL forums, now with more cheesy puns than a Blizzard game.



for the starcraft comparison, im surprised you didnt get hit by a mod's frozen mallet. i guess its cuz its the april fool's GD.

btw soniv stop being so frigid.
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