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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 10:17:58
April 01 2013 10:12 GMT
#241
So i am playing jungle rengar should i get HoG before or after my first dragonball? Also Arp or AD marks

¨
On a more serious note, EU west is following Gambit strats so hard. Everytime Diamond or Alexich plays something in LCS euwest follows instantly.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 01 2013 10:22 GMT
#242
On April 01 2013 19:07 Mondieu wrote:
Why did they have to nerf Rumble ? did this hero even make it to the competitive scene ? It has a nice to fill in. That was his only usefullness, bursty hero with not a lot of survivability. Hisultimate now is useless since it deals 0 dmg if u flash/walk over it.

it actually deals the same damage as before, just without the burst at the start, which was what it was designed for
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
April 01 2013 10:40 GMT
#243
On April 01 2013 19:22 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 19:07 Mondieu wrote:
Why did they have to nerf Rumble ? did this hero even make it to the competitive scene ? It has a nice to fill in. That was his only usefullness, bursty hero with not a lot of survivability. Hisultimate now is useless since it deals 0 dmg if u flash/walk over it.

it actually deals the same damage as before, just without the burst at the start, which was what it was designed for


And as for his other question, no, Rumble was never ever played picked or banned competitively. Riot just threw a dice and it came up Rumble! :D

Lunari master faction btw.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
April 01 2013 10:45 GMT
#244
Sightstone is 475 gold for wards (475 for ruby crystal).
475/75 =~ 6 wards need to be placed for the item to start paying off, which in an ideal scenario (=2 wards placed at the same time, they are in perfect position for the whole duration) is 9 minutes.
In 9 minutes, Philo + Kage's net 486 gold, but with a substantially higher input cost, at 670 gold.
Hmm...
So Sightstone is the best gold-per-ten item available.
However, I personally like getting them all, so which to get first is the question.
I would argue for completing Philo and Kage's first, since the laning-phase of the game tends to be more stable, and if you get the Sightstone as the laning phase ends, it will very quickly start paying off, unless ofcourse you have a lane-opponent who's pinking a lot.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
April 01 2013 11:17 GMT
#245
Edward kinda opened my eyes to this, that supports should generally be building as tanky as possible (which really just means get health) so that they can soak up some damage early/midgame and take some damage to bait a favorable fight. I believe philo + kages to be a dead style now if you're planning on sitting on them for long enough to make the gp10 on them worth it. Much rather go sightstone into locket like I always do.
Hey! How you doin'?
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 01 2013 11:29 GMT
#246
Dorans shield is incredibly strong on supports, Philo is strong still if you plan to build something out of it.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 11:30:52
April 01 2013 11:29 GMT
#247
On April 01 2013 19:45 Duvon wrote:
Sightstone is 475 gold for wards (475 for ruby crystal).
475/75 =~ 6 wards need to be placed for the item to start paying off, which in an ideal scenario (=2 wards placed at the same time, they are in perfect position for the whole duration) is 9 minutes.
In 9 minutes, Philo + Kage's net 486 gold, but with a substantially higher input cost, at 670 gold.
Hmm...
So Sightstone is the best gold-per-ten item available.
However, I personally like getting them all, so which to get first is the question.
I would argue for completing Philo and Kage's first, since the laning-phase of the game tends to be more stable, and if you get the Sightstone as the laning phase ends, it will very quickly start paying off, unless ofcourse you have a lane-opponent who's pinking a lot.


except thats not how you use sightstone, you can replace the wards as needed/move them around and then get fresh ones for free, so its even better

people still get philo because you can open with components and get it fast, and its pretty good in early lane
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 01 2013 11:31 GMT
#248
On April 01 2013 18:12 Seuss wrote:
Astro Teemo is the best game ever.

What, they did something else on top of Chew?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 01 2013 11:36 GMT
#249
2 weeks ban on the 1st of April. But I think it's not a joke
The legend of Darien lives on
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
April 01 2013 11:55 GMT
#250
On April 01 2013 20:31 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 18:12 Seuss wrote:
Astro Teemo is the best game ever.

What, they did something else on top of Chew?

If you collect a rainbow object in Chew, you unlock it.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 01 2013 12:10 GMT
#251
On April 01 2013 20:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
2 weeks ban on the 1st of April. But I think it's not a joke

They are doing this so you can play their new game CHEW.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
April 01 2013 12:35 GMT
#252
Hail Democratic People's Republic of Teemo. I wish they'd just keep this skin on reddit, it's so much better than the original one they have now.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
April 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#253
Started playing top, who are some champs I should pick up? I can play Singed/Vlad/Shen competently but my champ pool is kinda empty after those three :3
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 01 2013 12:51 GMT
#254
Zed and Renekton.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
April 01 2013 12:56 GMT
#255
How do we feel that the r/starcraft theme links to LOL instead of DOTA2? Pretty subtle and funny.

reddit.com/r/starcraft
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5096 Posts
April 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#256
On April 01 2013 21:42 schmutttt wrote:
Started playing top, who are some champs I should pick up? I can play Singed/Vlad/Shen competently but my champ pool is kinda empty after those three :3


I started playing Nautilus and Nunu top, a little controversial, since they're mostly junglers or supports and actually very rarely played, but they have a good laning phase imo.
Akali can be played top, Rumble, Gangplank and Elise aswell, even Blitzcrank. Hope that helps you a bit more :D
Taxes are for Terrans
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 13:19:14
April 01 2013 13:11 GMT
#257
On April 01 2013 21:56 Bwaaaa wrote:
How do we feel that the r/starcraft theme links to LOL instead of DOTA2? Pretty subtle and funny.

reddit.com/r/starcraft

Fucking awesome. Click on BW.

Got to say reddit/r/leagueoflegend is pretty funny too.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:24:31
April 01 2013 13:56 GMT
#258
On April 01 2013 20:29 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 19:45 Duvon wrote:
Sightstone is 475 gold for wards (475 for ruby crystal).
475/75 =~ 6 wards need to be placed for the item to start paying off, which in an ideal scenario (=2 wards placed at the same time, they are in perfect position for the whole duration) is 9 minutes.
In 9 minutes, Philo + Kage's net 486 gold, but with a substantially higher input cost, at 670 gold.
Hmm...
So Sightstone is the best gold-per-ten item available.
However, I personally like getting them all, so which to get first is the question.
I would argue for completing Philo and Kage's first, since the laning-phase of the game tends to be more stable, and if you get the Sightstone as the laning phase ends, it will very quickly start paying off, unless ofcourse you have a lane-opponent who's pinking a lot.


except thats not how you use sightstone, you can replace the wards as needed/move them around and then get fresh ones for free, so its even better

people still get philo because you can open with components and get it fast, and its pretty good in early lane

Ofcourse, but excessive moving around of wards will make the item run out of charges, and force you to back possibly more often than needed.
Please, keep in mind I'm not trying to argue heavily here, more like... investigate.
Hmm.
Some quick math shows that it takes about 15 minutes to get Philo-Kage, assuming 150g bounty (assist) and going for a somewhat risky start (bead+charm+2wards start).
It comparatively takes about 30 minutes to get Ruby Sightstone + Locket, assuming 1k bounty (dragons, towers, assists).
Since Philo-Kage gold is 9, it will take slightly more than half the time to get Ruby + Locket, quite close in total time.

Edit: Wait, forgot to calc wards-vs-G/10 after you get the sightstone skewing the results.
Under the assumption that two new ward gets placed every 2 minutes (instead of 3), and that they are free after the 13 minute mark (150 gold bounty) if you have Sightstone. This means the Sightstone is effectively generating 75 gold per minute after the 13 minute mark, while Philo generates 30 gold per minute after the 6 minute mark, and Kage's 24 gold per minute after the 15 minute mark.
Whoa is Sightstone good or what?
I'd still argue getting a Philo, though (as said by sob3k) not as much for the reason that it opens up Shurelias (really, who does Eleisa's or Ohmwrecker?) but that a quick happenstance assist, or accidental FB for the support can get it very quickly, on a bead+charm start.

(And since I'm stubborn, I'll probably continue getting Kage's as well, at least on the supports/in games where the Shard of true Ice active is decent (alistaarrrr?).)
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:13:40
April 01 2013 14:11 GMT
#259
On April 01 2013 19:12 Eppa! wrote:
So i am playing jungle rengar should i get HoG before or after my first dragonball? Also Arp or AD marks

¨
On a more serious note, EU west is following Gambit strats so hard. Everytime Diamond or Alexich plays something in LCS euwest follows instantly.

Noticed this, before DIamond uses them there's no voli or nasus junglers, now they're in every single game as are hecarims

By the way if they really made en Eternal Leader Teemo skin it just might be the first RP I'll spend on the game
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 14:43:59
April 01 2013 14:22 GMT
#260
Astro Teemo is... is...
Wtf. @_@

Oh God. This is much more fun than it reasonably should.

ECA spam so good.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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