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On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:On April 01 2013 10:46 RagequitBM wrote:On April 01 2013 10:44 TheYango wrote:On April 01 2013 10:28 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Athene is hilarious. Raises a million dollars for charity, does nothing but troll on Youtube. And then feels good about it because he knows hes done more for the world than most anyone hating on him. While I don't really care about Athene either way, I'd point out that this is a pretty shitty way of thinking. Donating a million dollars to charity doesn't entitle you to be a dick and a troll the other 364 days of the year, and it doesn't reflect poorly on the people hating on you. In fact, if you take that line of thinking to its extreme, it's actually pretty retarded. "I've done my good deed for today, so I'm allowed to be a dick to you and you can't judge me for it"? No, performing some irrelevant good deed in the past doesn't somehow vindicate you for being a dick now. The thing is, the reason I started watching him is because I met him at an event, and he was the nicest guy I've ever met in my life. His online persona is just an act. He's an actor. You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real. The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved?
Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist".
The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right?
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On April 01 2013 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
qtpie is a crafty bastard.
tells stream to suggest what he should play next.
heimerdinger most picked.
tell kiwikid (he's duo qing with) to ban heimer, so he can avoid playing it.
scumbag qt.
#bowflexin
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On April 01 2013 12:52 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 12:39 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 01 2013 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
Ahh, so Diamond has targeted Hecarim as his next jungler to make FOTM.
I am intrigued. I guess he's first pick/ban status in LPL, but instead of the soloq Elder Lizard/IBG build they just go straight tank and he become an unkillable truck with one of the best initiates in the game. I feel like that is the point of Hecarim. You have the choice of Disruptive tanky DPSer, or you can be disruptive unkillable tank.
Yeah, it's just a matter of teams realizing the latter is probably more useful in a pro play scenario.
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On April 01 2013 12:49 Chrispy wrote:
Okay guys... I'm sorry but /r/LoL beats our April Fools joke.
Maybe you should go back to your new home. You're almost bad as those disgusting Solari freaks.
On April 01 2013 13:14 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 12:50 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 10:41 Kipsate wrote:
Chiharu ur not that cute. very few things are as cute as kip in other news TPA's just lost to SGS, ft. hyhy, they seem to be having a really hard time adjusting to 1v2 THEY ARE NOW 21-1 GGNORE SLUMP ETC ETC. Stanley's 1v2 ability continues to be a thorn in his backside. Obviously TPA can still win games in spite of it, but I still think it's his Achilles' Heel compared to other top tier top laners (which I guess we should start calling off-laners).
AMERICA TIER TEAM GG
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On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:On April 01 2013 10:46 RagequitBM wrote:On April 01 2013 10:44 TheYango wrote:On April 01 2013 10:28 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Athene is hilarious. Raises a million dollars for charity, does nothing but troll on Youtube. And then feels good about it because he knows hes done more for the world than most anyone hating on him. While I don't really care about Athene either way, I'd point out that this is a pretty shitty way of thinking. Donating a million dollars to charity doesn't entitle you to be a dick and a troll the other 364 days of the year, and it doesn't reflect poorly on the people hating on you. In fact, if you take that line of thinking to its extreme, it's actually pretty retarded. "I've done my good deed for today, so I'm allowed to be a dick to you and you can't judge me for it"? No, performing some irrelevant good deed in the past doesn't somehow vindicate you for being a dick now. The thing is, the reason I started watching him is because I met him at an event, and he was the nicest guy I've ever met in my life. His online persona is just an act. He's an actor. You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real. The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right?
I really don't think he's 'hiding' behind the charity stuff as much as using it to respond to the people that are pitchforking extremely hard right now. I mean, some really awful stuff has been said about Athene on reddit and elsewhere, without much regard for the fact that he's done a huge amount for the community and is generally a nice guy. He did cheat by boosting his account, and he should be banned. I don't think this warrants the outrage that it's received though. He ruined maybe a dozen games at most, it's really not that big of a deal.
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On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:On April 01 2013 10:46 RagequitBM wrote:On April 01 2013 10:44 TheYango wrote:On April 01 2013 10:28 RagequitBM wrote:
I think Athene is hilarious. Raises a million dollars for charity, does nothing but troll on Youtube. And then feels good about it because he knows hes done more for the world than most anyone hating on him. While I don't really care about Athene either way, I'd point out that this is a pretty shitty way of thinking. Donating a million dollars to charity doesn't entitle you to be a dick and a troll the other 364 days of the year, and it doesn't reflect poorly on the people hating on you. In fact, if you take that line of thinking to its extreme, it's actually pretty retarded. "I've done my good deed for today, so I'm allowed to be a dick to you and you can't judge me for it"? No, performing some irrelevant good deed in the past doesn't somehow vindicate you for being a dick now. The thing is, the reason I started watching him is because I met him at an event, and he was the nicest guy I've ever met in my life. His online persona is just an act. He's an actor. You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real. The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right?
No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure.
.........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine.
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On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:On April 01 2013 10:46 RagequitBM wrote:On April 01 2013 10:44 TheYango wrote:
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While I don't really care about Athene either way, I'd point out that this is a pretty shitty way of thinking. Donating a million dollars to charity doesn't entitle you to be a dick and a troll the other 364 days of the year, and it doesn't reflect poorly on the people hating on you.
In fact, if you take that line of thinking to its extreme, it's actually pretty retarded. "I've done my good deed for today, so I'm allowed to be a dick to you and you can't judge me for it"? No, performing some irrelevant good deed in the past doesn't somehow vindicate you for being a dick now. The thing is, the reason I started watching him is because I met him at an event, and he was the nicest guy I've ever met in my life. His online persona is just an act. He's an actor. You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real. The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine.
I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting.
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And by the way jungle morg is like really really strong....You can go like 9-2-19 and get mad bank while rushing APstone --->Liandry/zhonya and smiting everything that moves while remaining full health, ganks are so scary and dat ult is craaaaazy, just use it on every CD and win game.
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if Athene was only reading this thread right now he'd be rigorously masturbating. seriously, if you don't like him don't talk about him, it's the only win for you.
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On April 01 2013 13:36 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:On April 01 2013 10:46 RagequitBM wrote:
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The thing is, the reason I started watching him is because I met him at an event, and he was the nicest guy I've ever met in my life. His online persona is just an act. He's an actor. You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real. The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine. I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting.
Maybe....maybe not
Look at the guy, he has basically nothing that should make him famous, yet here he is...we all know him, and he's been around for a long time now, absolute ages with how fast the internet crushes up minor celebrity. He has to continuously work in order to maintain his level of exposure...it shouldn't even exist. In my view he is operating on basically the Hilton/Kardashian model of fame, except he seems to be using it mostly to generate charity money. If he doesn't do something really outstandingly cuntish every few months then we would forget about him in an instant.
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On April 01 2013 13:45 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:36 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:
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You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real.
The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine. I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting. Maybe....maybe not Look at the guy, he has basically nothing that should make him famous, yet here he is...we all know him, and he's been around for a long time now, absolute ages with how fast the internet crushes up minor celebrity. He has to continuously work in order to maintain his level of exposure...it shouldn't even exist. In my view he is operating on basically the Hilton/Kardashian model of fame, except he seems to be using it mostly to generate charity money. If he doesn't do something really outstandingly cuntish every few months then we would forget about him in an instant.
Yeah, but if it is an act (which I'm still not buying), why do it in the first place? His videos were funny, he has a lot of stream viewers because of his random antics, plenty of other non-pro streamers get by without doing something like that.
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Athene is well known for exploiting systems - this is not new.
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On April 01 2013 13:53 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:45 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:36 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:
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But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine. I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting. Maybe....maybe not Look at the guy, he has basically nothing that should make him famous, yet here he is...we all know him, and he's been around for a long time now, absolute ages with how fast the internet crushes up minor celebrity. He has to continuously work in order to maintain his level of exposure...it shouldn't even exist. In my view he is operating on basically the Hilton/Kardashian model of fame, except he seems to be using it mostly to generate charity money. If he doesn't do something really outstandingly cuntish every few months then we would forget about him in an instant. Yeah, but if it is an act (which I'm still not buying), why do it in the first place? His videos were funny, he has a lot of stream viewers because of his random antics, plenty of other non-pro streamers get by without doing something like that.
He feels good about himself donating money, and I'm sure its entertaining to be such a controversial figure. At least thats why I imagine.
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On April 01 2013 13:45 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:36 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 10:52 MoonBear wrote:
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You can easily argue the opposite, and that his irl face is an act and his online face is real.
The thing is, at the end of the day there is a side of him that acts like a complete jerk. Whether it is an act or not, it's still being a jerk to people and that's not okay. But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine. I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting. Maybe....maybe not Look at the guy, he has basically nothing that should make him famous, yet here he is...we all know him, and he's been around for a long time now, absolute ages with how fast the internet crushes up minor celebrity. He has to continuously work in order to maintain his level of exposure...it shouldn't even exist. In my view he is operating on basically the Hilton/Kardashian model of fame, except he seems to be using it mostly to generate charity money. If he doesn't do something really outstandingly cuntish every few months then we would forget about him in an instant.
Do you even know who Jammno is?
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On April 01 2013 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
Ahh, so Diamond has targeted Hecarim as his next jungler to make FOTM.
I am intrigued.
Isn't that like 2 months late
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On April 01 2013 14:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
Ahh, so Diamond has targeted Hecarim as his next jungler to make FOTM.
I am intrigued. Isn't that like 2 months late
And if we follow TL time, even longer.
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On April 01 2013 14:24 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 13:45 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:36 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:33 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:09 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 01 2013 13:07 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 13:03 sob3k wrote:On April 01 2013 12:50 Requizen wrote:On April 01 2013 12:35 sob3k wrote:
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But his douchery and trolling is an intrinsic part of the undeniably rather massive charity work he has done, maybe you could argue that he could have accomplished what he has accomplished in a wonderful pure manner and be just a transcendant beacon....but honestly people are incredibly attracted to the trolly controversy he is a master at stirring up. He has a talent for it which he has turned into massive exposure and therefore millions of dollars worth of serious good. In my book his approach is totally valid. I doubt he could have one without the other. There's a difference between trolling to stir up controversy, and blatantly cheating at a game and fucking over members of a community that you supposedly support. I don't really see one.... You don't see a difference between being annoying and, doing something against the rules, feeling assured in the fact that you'll not get banned because you're a "community figure"? I can guarantee that if someone had a VoD of me playing with 4 other people and us queue bombing to win/leaving game to powerboost, I'd be banned so fast my game would just uninstall itself. But that's a standard that riot applies to almost all "important" figures. For example were the players with their accounts temp banned for selling leveling services barred from playing in LCS and do you have a similar grudge against everybody involved? Of course I do, it's dumb to have rules that you don't enforce. If you want that, you could just put a big disclaimer on the bottom of the ToS saying "unless you're a pro or have 10k+ subscribers on Youtube, in which case we'll ignore it/give you a slap on the wrist". The part that's really annoying me is that he's trying to hide behind the charity stuff like it nullifies breaking the rules. Next time I help an old lady across the street, I might as well just steal her purse, right? No, its majorly douchey and shouldn't be allowed, he is abusing the game because he is a popular figure. .........the idea is that he is doing that entire thing JUST to generate this kind of controversy and therefore fuel his charity effort. Thats the entire point. He turns toxic gossipy douchiness and commmunity pitchforking into charity money like a machine. I'm like 90% certain that he isn't cheating to gain more charity numbers, considering the amount of people that aren't going to donate just because of how he's acting. Maybe....maybe not Look at the guy, he has basically nothing that should make him famous, yet here he is...we all know him, and he's been around for a long time now, absolute ages with how fast the internet crushes up minor celebrity. He has to continuously work in order to maintain his level of exposure...it shouldn't even exist. In my view he is operating on basically the Hilton/Kardashian model of fame, except he seems to be using it mostly to generate charity money. If he doesn't do something really outstandingly cuntish every few months then we would forget about him in an instant. Do you even know who Jammno is?
No I don't
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On April 01 2013 14:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
Ahh, so Diamond has targeted Hecarim as his next jungler to make FOTM.
I am intrigued. Isn't that like 2 months late
Doing the full tank build is kind of new. Hec was played a bit in the LCS but he always seemed to be more of a soloq Jungler, and that was with the Spirit Stone/IBG build.
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On April 01 2013 14:54 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 14:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On April 01 2013 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
Ahh, so Diamond has targeted Hecarim as his next jungler to make FOTM.
I am intrigued. Isn't that like 2 months late Doing the full tank build is kind of new. Hec was played a bit in the LCS but he always seemed to be more of a soloq Jungler, and that was with the Spirit Stone/IBG build.
More like he's been watching the China LCS. Locket/Aegis pretty much the only way he is built in their games. Hec is an ult machine now. Probably why riot wanted to nerf the ult a few weeks back.
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