we just need the pick order exchanged and then we can see if we really need to discuss the map or if we just need to find a better picking system.
i really dont know why they have not done it allready. If Riot really thinks everything is balanced, they should not need to worry about reversing the pickorder. And if there is unbalance, this will show it very clearly.
NA LCS has 51/84 wins by blue side (60.7%) EU LCS has 42/84 wins by blue side (50.0%) GPL has 51/96 wins by blue side (53.1%) LPL has 31/44 wins by blue side (70.4%) * note that WE exclusively plays on blue side the first half of the season, however
On April 09 2013 20:42 Chrispy wrote: Me and some friends have been doing ranked 5's all mid push strats with comps like: Blitz + Lux + Thresh + Cait + Sona.
So fun. But it's basically get the first inhib down by like 10 minutes or it's GG.
No Heimer? Think he'd be stronger and could replace Blitz, Thresh, or Lux pretty easily. :>
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
TBH I think sOAz can play 50% 50% against maknoon.
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
TBH I think sOAz can play 50% 50% against maknoon.
On a good day sure but sOAz's problem has always been consistency. He's been far more reliable lately but can't say he's overcome the problem with such a small sample size. Never know which sOAz is going to show up.
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
TBH I think sOAz can play 50% 50% against maknoon.
I think he'd do better than most but I don't think it's an even match up. Of course without seeing the head-to-head match-up it's hard to judge.
Honestly, I don't think Garena allstar voting matters very much
Its either they basically send TPA/TPS, or something went terribly wrong. Literally all of Taiwan is going to vote for them, they're almost considered national heroes.
EDIT: Can't find the actual link anywhere though...
Moving MiSTakE to TPS was obviously part of a grand plan to bypass the three player limit per team for the All-star game. It's probably gonna be Season 2 TPA with one player subbed out due to restrictions lol.
The one game I saw with Dinter he had a perfect game as support Lulu though. I don't really know how strong TPA's botlane is compared to the test of the team honestly. They're really solid, but its not like Stanley, Ballz or Toyz who kind of just slowly steamroll.
On April 09 2013 23:55 thenexusp wrote: Here are the stats:
NA LCS has 51/84 wins by blue side (60.7%) EU LCS has 42/84 wins by blue side (50.0%) GPL has 51/96 wins by blue side (53.1%) LPL has 31/44 wins by blue side (70.4%) * note that WE exclusively plays on blue side the first half of the season, however
On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote: Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean.
Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is.
Not across all LCS--as has been stated, GPL and EU LCS are much closer to 50-50. In GPL's case I would argue that the spread of skill is much wider in GPL than in any of the other leagues--a large percentage of GPL matches are simply too lopsided already for blue/purple advantage to matter, which fundamentally shifts the statistics toward 50-50.
EDIT: Also, the "WE only plays blue side" anecdote doesn't mean much out of context because Wayi Spider is also playing predominantly blue side games and iG is playing predominantly purple side. If you consider those 2 big outliers (Wayi Spider being the "worst" team in the league, and iG being just as favored as WE), the statistics aren't over-representing blue side like you suggest.
On April 10 2013 00:53 ticklishmusic wrote: The one game I saw with Dinter he had a perfect game as support Lulu though. I don't really know how strong TPA's botlane is compared to the test of the team honestly. They're really solid, but its not like Stanley, Ballz or Toyz who kind of just slowly steamroll.
I have a feeling fans will vote to get MiSTakE and Bebe back together though.
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
TBH I think sOAz can play 50% 50% against maknoon.
On a good day sure but sOAz's problem has always been consistency. He's been far more reliable lately but can't say he's overcome the problem with such a small sample size. Never know which sOAz is going to show up.
Peke is super inconsistent and IMO it just spills everywhere. Not that I don't love Peke, but sometimes he feels like he has 10 deaths in a game.
On April 10 2013 00:53 ticklishmusic wrote: The one game I saw with Dinter he had a perfect game as support Lulu though. I don't really know how strong TPA's botlane is compared to the test of the team honestly. They're really solid, but its not like Stanley, Ballz or Toyz who kind of just slowly steamroll.
I have a feeling fans will vote to get MiSTakE and Bebe back together though.
I'm not sure TPS players can even be counted in the vote? They're not officially in GPL.
Regarding TPA's bot lane, Bebe is a top class AD who is probably about as good as Uzi and second only to Weixiao (weaker laner and makes less aggressive plays than Uzi; but has more experience executing lategame teamfights). Dinter has not impressed me--though I think the biggest loss in losing Mistake doesn't have to do with his individual ability as a support, but the loss of TPA's captain.
In a reddit AMA thread gtr said no players are permanent to keep them on their toes and they need to keep performing well or they are off the team. If I got a better offer to leave a team I didn't have a contract with then sure, I'm outta there.
@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though.
As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell.
Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though.
Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape.
Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
You seem really upset about Maknoon winning over Expession. But you know what? Maknoon is still gonna outclass whatever Top laner NA and EU send to represent. Sure, Expession is a beast, but the nature of fan vote's is that the more popular players are going to get picked. That said it's clear the KR team is head and shoulders above the NA/EU team. Also I don't think Maknoon is going to troll or anything. This isn't like the last all-star match where he played Teemo, this is a whole extra qualification spot for the World Championships that KR probably deserves.
TBH I think sOAz can play 50% 50% against maknoon.
On a good day sure but sOAz's problem has always been consistency. He's been far more reliable lately but can't say he's overcome the problem with such a small sample size. Never know which sOAz is going to show up.
Peke is super inconsistent and IMO it just spills everywhere. Not that I don't love Peke, but sometimes he feels like he has 10 deaths in a game.
you call peke inconsistent, i say his only bad game in ALL lcs matches so far was the tf vs fizz game last week vs Gambit.
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