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On April 09 2013 19:52 TSBspartacus wrote:
Lol I didn't like DNG with Cris, and now they've picked up Deezer as well? And that reddit post asking for money is just shameful, it even says in the post "Any excess funds will go to the players themselves!".
Ok so we're paying their wages for a BM team? I liked pr0lly and I'm glad he's moved to a more mature team and can show his potential.
Oh and the request for donations is an advance request in case RIOT don't actually manage to get a ticket, something they probably will do. Where will the money go then? I think I know....
Casinos and hookers... Know what ? To hell with lcs... And the casinos..
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dudes, I was looking at survivability items for junglers like Diana and Elise....it seems to me that Spirit of the Ancient Golem is actually a sick item to get even after buying Spirit of the Spectral Wraith. It gives 2843 gold worth of stats, 500g of which is poor value due to being health regen you don't really need, which still puts it efficient, even WITHOUT considering the tenacity, which is obscenely good and has great gold value as well as allowing you to grab sorc boots for some lovely magic pen. The mana regen would really help speed clears on Elise and Diana, and allow more skill use if you arent taking blue.
I mean as alternate survivability items you have like locket, which has that unneeeded health regen too and is kind of puny as well as being about even on efficiency. I'd much rather have that tenacity which is an offensive stat too. However the CDR is very nice, and the active brings it up to reasonable tankiness levels. Probably your best bet alternatively, and its cheap.
and mogs, which is probably too much health this early and is at poor gold efficiency considering you dont need the regen.
and aegis, which is always good but I'm a selfish dick and its only 250 hp, pretty good option if you want MR
and SV, which is pretty crap in this situation, as you dont need the passive really,its too focused on MR, and its weak 200 health. You have to use the passive to make it gold efficient. not a good buy unless its like all magic damage.
So 500hp, 30 armor, 7manaregen at gold efficient plus 35 tenacity and 14health regen is looking real good compared to that field of items in my opinon. The only thing you could want more is like some CDR, and on PBE they have SOTAG building out of kindlegem instead of giants belt, so it could very well get that, as well as a nicer build path. 500 hp and 30 armor is like exactly the amount you want to not be fucked with, while not being a damageless ignorable tank in the midgame.
In conclusion you should build APstone/Sorcs/Haunting guise/SOTAG into Zhonyas/Rylai/Void on jungle elise and you will be an unstoppable monster.
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gtsrt is such a good manager 
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Me and some friends have been doing ranked 5's all mid push strats with comps like: Blitz + Lux + Thresh + Cait + Sona.
So fun. But it's basically get the first inhib down by like 10 minutes or it's GG.
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On April 09 2013 19:03 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 17:19 Letmelose wrote:On April 09 2013 16:31 JonGalt wrote:
"@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"
For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.
Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes? Without watching VODs or streams, you'll only hear second hand accounts of these teams, and will not be able to make judgements of your own. But if that's not an option for you, here's a quality post by a guy who summarized the Korean scene as a whole. It's just one guy's opinion though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1br77i/nubofdeaths_ogn_olympus_champions_spring_2013/As for the voting, it's just a casual vote for the players with the most exposure, just like it is for the other regions. There are people voting for Locodoco, simply because they want to reunite him with Madlife. Legitimately good players, acknowledged by professional players and high solo-que players alike, such as Imp and Expession are being out-voted by players with bigger fan bases. Everybody knew that this tournament would never be a fair representation of the regions involved, but nevertheless, it's disappointing as hell. Oh well, might as well see Maknoon trolling the team for everyone's entertainment. There are so many quality players like Kakao, bengi, Deft, Expession, Imp, and Faker who might never get the chance to represent Korea if not for this tournament. People don't care though. Please elaborate. The only player I think that doesn't belong on the team is Maknoon[EDIT: Arguably PraY could be replaced by another adc], and if Maknoon is your weakest player, I'll say you still in good shape. Anyone knows Garena voting?
Ambition: Experienced, safe pick. I personally prefer Faker, but I can see where the majority is seeing here. Totally legitimate pick, and I have absolutely zero qualms here. God forbid RapidStar overtakes him.
Maknoon: Are you kidding me? Maknoon would tell you himself that Expession is better. Not in a better shape, not on a hot streak, just straight out better. Several professional gamers have voiced similar opinions also, as well as high ELO amateurs.
Ssumday and Flame are on a roll as well, and have some international experience, but I'll let them slide as their body of work as a whole is not that extensive. However, Expession is a proven top laner that is way less erratic than Maknoon, whose throwing ability comes into question especially considering how poorly he is performing at the moment. There is absolutely no reason to pick Maknoon whether you are picking him in terms of current form, or overall ability as a player.
PraY: I'm actually thankful he is in first place, because otherwise Locodoco would end up representing Korea. I'd much rather prefer Imp to represent Korea, however, I'll concede PraY is the more experienced of the two. There are others such as Deft who has had better performances than PraY recently, but we'll ignore form. Imp, on the other hand, has been playing at a high level for quite some time, and should be in contention. Imp is in a better shape, no question, but I won't go as far as to say he is a superior player without question.
Madlife: Madlife isn't even on a hot streak. There's no synergy between the potential bottom-lane. Madlife just happens to be the biggest name. While Madlife isn't neccessarily a poor pick, people are completely forgetting about existing bottom-lanes. What exactly is the reasoning for picking two famous players that have never played with one another, when both players aren't at the top of their game at the moment? You can either go for existing bottom lanes that have proven class, or you can pick two amazing players that are on a blazing hot streak. This duo of PraY and Madlife is a strange compromise of the two, and I can see no good coming from that.
Give me Imp and Mata any day of the week. But I guess they're not famous enough. Hell, I'd even settle for PraY and Cain. At least they have a good synergy going for them. It's kind of like Yellowpete and Edward representing Europe. Two famous names, with very little thought put into the actual end result.
inSec: Another player that I'm thanking god is in the first place. Otherwise we'll have Cloud-bloody-Templar representing our region. There are more in form players, but I think inSec is a good compromise between sufficient skills to go with the neccessary recognition from the fans. A legitimate pick.
I guess I'm most discontent with the top lane, and am not amazed by any means by the potential bottom lane duo of PraY and Madlife. That's three out of five picks I am not happy with, and I am certain that any coach or professional player suffering from a stroke could come up with a better team than that. I'm aware that this is the nature of fan-based voting, but it doesn't stop me from being severely disappointed that famous names are being chosen over worthy players with smaller fan bases. I mean, this is perhaps the one and only chance for players like Expession to make a name for himself in front of the world, even if it is just a exhibition match.
I think Expession is better than Maknoon. Maknoon thinks Expession is better than himself. Woong thinks Expession is better than Maknoon. Everybody who has played against Expession has ackowledged his skill level. But none of this will matter if nobody remembers him because Maknoon happens to have a bigger fanbase, thus more exposure on the international level (which will draw even more fans). Maybe Maknoon isn't such a bad player to fall back on (he truly is a quality player). But Expession deserves it more, and this may be his only chance because his team most likely won't qualify for any of the big international tournaments.
Who cares though, right? Maknoon is awesome, and that's what this competition should be, an awesome tournament between superstars of the game, not a legitimate competition between the best players possible.
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Team Korea will win the all-star tournament because their coach will be+ Show Spoiler + MANTOSS (he has 45% vote atm) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/LastRomantic/Reach/x2.jpg)
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This deezer guy seems like the scum of the Earth though. You don't get that many haters unless you are truly the bottom of the barrel. I feel for guitar being placed in desperate straits by prolly leaving but having this guy on your team doesn't seem worth it.
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Lol gtr removed the OP, wonder if they're getting a new midlaner?
I am probably an arsehole but happy if deezer doesn't get picked up .
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i hope Locodo gets more votes because i want to see loco vs doublelift!!!!!!!
my Korean team would be:
Madlife
Locodoco
Shy
Ambition
inSec
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Man I think I should retire from playing Thresh. He's so much fun to play and make plays but I just can't win with him even when I win my lane by a large margin. Time to play to Sona/Leona/Lulu only.
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Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean.
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On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean.
Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is.
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On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean.
Pretty sure the Chinese team is going to have PDD, Zz1tai, and Weixiao. They will stomp everyone except for the Koreans (whom they should beat but it'll be close).
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On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is.
blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder.
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On April 09 2013 22:46 LaNague wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is. blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder.
Not exactly sure what this means since they do come with a pick order, but regardless there are differences between Blue/Purple side, including the ability to leap into Dragon pit from Blue side and there being a far easier approach to Baron from Blue side. I don't think I can say any more without saying something incorrect, but there are large differences in side architecture beyond the picking stuff.
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On April 09 2013 22:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:46 LaNague wrote:On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is. blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder. Not exactly sure what this means since they do come with a pick order, but regardless there are differences between Blue/Purple side, including the ability to leap into Dragon pit from Blue side and there being a far easier approach to Baron from Blue side. I don't think I can say any more without saying something incorrect, but there are large differences in side architecture beyond the picking stuff.
He means you can't tell whether the difference is due to pick order or due to the map design because it's both at the same time.
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On April 09 2013 03:49 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
Man, you guys are doing it wrong if you're complaining about not having enough stuff at the start.
I mean like, you have the option of all these wonderful Doran's items, then you can take your pick of consumables and one or two regen items. I think its great.
Also, heavy consumables start is kind of underrated on some supports. Taking 3 or 4 mana pots on Lulu is soooo abusive, and taking the pickpocket mastery totally makes up for it.
EDIT: freeweek blitz, time to always ban The only role you can really open a dorans item is ADC. There are probably some mid lane match ups or top lane match ups where Dring/Dblade/Dshield could work but it'd probably be a bit risky and if you have one even trade you're going to be behind or forced to back to get pots so you have to either farm without being harassed at all or harass them without being harassed back. If they nerf the amount of starting pots you'll just see lots of mid laners go flask+pots or faerie charm+5pot+ward. Non-mana using top laners probably go something like cloth+5pot a lot. edit: I don't wanna go back to season 1 where everyone bought Dblade+2pot or Dring+2pot.
I'm late but you can open DBlade on Riven with opening E against melee champions with low early harass. You can take a 1 charged auto trade at lvl1 and have a crazy All-In with Q at lvl2 or full combo lvl3. It's dangerous, but her shield allows her to play like this.
If you manage to survive until first back, you're 475 golds up your opponent.
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On April 09 2013 23:12 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:46 LaNague wrote:On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is. blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder. Not exactly sure what this means since they do come with a pick order, but regardless there are differences between Blue/Purple side, including the ability to leap into Dragon pit from Blue side and there being a far easier approach to Baron from Blue side. I don't think I can say any more without saying something incorrect, but there are large differences in side architecture beyond the picking stuff. He means you can't tell whether the difference is due to pick order or due to the map design because it's both at the same time.
Ahhhh... yeah. Point taken. I mean, the stats still have meaning, but the actual solution is hard to find for exactly the reason described.
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On April 09 2013 22:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:46 LaNague wrote:On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is. blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder. Not exactly sure what this means since they do come with a pick order, but regardless there are differences between Blue/Purple side, including the ability to leap into Dragon pit from Blue side and there being a far easier approach to Baron from Blue side. I don't think I can say any more without saying something incorrect, but there are large differences in side architecture beyond the picking stuff.
On the other hand, purple can leap into baron pit and has an easier approach to dragon. I always thought one of the big differences was due to double golem locations and tri-bush locations.
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On April 09 2013 23:21 YouGotNothin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 22:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:46 LaNague wrote:On April 09 2013 22:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On April 09 2013 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Are there any stats for purple vs blue in LCS? I keep hearing that Blue's way more powerful etc, would be interesting to see the stats for the sides for LCS to see how true that is...
Ah and is there chinese qualifiers as well? I feel like Chinese all star team might be even stronger than Korean. Yango can tell you about the 65/35 (or something) Blue/Purple win rates across all the LCS far better than I. But that's about what it is. blue purple side stats have almost no meaning as long as those sides come also with a certain pickorder. Not exactly sure what this means since they do come with a pick order, but regardless there are differences between Blue/Purple side, including the ability to leap into Dragon pit from Blue side and there being a far easier approach to Baron from Blue side. I don't think I can say any more without saying something incorrect, but there are large differences in side architecture beyond the picking stuff. On the other hand, purple can leap into baron pit and has an easier approach to dragon. I always thought one of the big differences was due to double golem locations and tri-bush locations.
I think you're also right about that, but the leaping into the Baron pit is less advantageous since you can't (usually) 1v1 Baron and steal it, plus it's better to have a retreat from Baron that's easy (like Blue).
But again, now I might be talking out my ass since I don't know nearly as much about this as I should. Yango will wake up and explain some of it, or some of the other actually good players.
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