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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 09 2013 03:59 GMT
#2001
On April 09 2013 12:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 12:13 obesechicken13 wrote:
On April 09 2013 12:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I need some help on something totally unrelated to LoL. Can anyone help? I am sure there are computer science majors here:

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I want to learn some SQL (just the basic stuff, such as SELECT * FROM TABLE), but I also want to be able to test the commands out. What kind of DBMS should I get? I downloaded mySQL and it seems so complicated that I don't know how to get it working.

You'd get more responses on the big programming thread but MySQL is fine and easier to learn than some of the other SQLs. If you're installing the server locally then setup should be fairly straightforward iirc.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=134491&currentpage=281#5618

Disclaimer: I have to do a google before every one of my SQL queries.

Yango tango can probably help you more or some of the other computer buffs. What are you going to be using the SQL for?


Oh thanks that's a much better place to ask for that kind of kind X_X

I just want to know how to do SELECT * FROM TABLE, tbh. I am not looking for fancy stuff.


Über basics (which I also constantly refer to): http://www.w3schools.com/sql/
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 09 2013 04:22 GMT
#2002
On April 09 2013 12:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I need some help on something totally unrelated to LoL. Can anyone help? I am sure there are computer science majors here:

+ Show Spoiler +
I want to learn some SQL (just the basic stuff, such as SELECT * FROM TABLE), but I also want to be able to test the commands out. What kind of DBMS should I get? I downloaded mySQL and it seems so complicated that I don't know how to get it working.


At my internship they're teaching me a lot of SQL because half of what my department does is rooted in databases.

I've been using Microsoft SQL Server Management Systems.

I have the added benefit of having terabytes worth of databases to play with, as well as a few good programmers to help me out when I get stuck.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 09 2013 04:30 GMT
#2003
Ah, Travian, or How I Paved NeoIllusion's Path to Glory. YOU'RE WELCOME

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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 04:48:21
April 09 2013 04:47 GMT
#2004
Get WAMP.

Basic SQL should take about one day to learn and a week to memorize. Advanced SQL will take substantially longer because syntax becomes precipitously less important than efficient design.

PL/SQL is my day job.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:04:36
April 09 2013 05:03 GMT
#2005
Hm so why does no one ever build Wit's End on anyone? I've heard that it's gotten terribly nerfed and so on but looking at its stats and considering the increase in prices of both MR and aspd(especially aspd), Wit's End has actually become relatively better than it used to be, especially after the MR buff. So what's the deal? Are the newer items just better? Or maybe because everyone goes mass HP the passive isn't that good ...



Plz don't report for actually talking about LoL.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:20:57
April 09 2013 05:16 GMT
#2006
On April 09 2013 14:03 Shikyo wrote:
Hm so why does no one ever build Wit's End on anyone? I've heard that it's gotten terribly nerfed and so on but looking at its stats and considering the increase in prices of both MR and aspd(especially aspd), Wit's End has actually become relatively better than it used to be, especially after the MR buff. So what's the deal? Are the newer items just better? Or maybe because everyone goes mass HP the passive isn't that good ...



Plz don't report for actually talking about LoL.


It does a decent amount of on-hit magic damage, but there's better options generally speaking-- cost efficient, but not particularly slot efficient? Getting a recurve bow is kind of weird, dropping a whole 1k at once on attack speed. Instead, you could go for Bork which builds out of daggers.

Also, attack speed and mpen are two stats that usually don't go together. Some guys use hybrid runes, but its a little weird past that.

There's a couple guys I like it on, like jungle Cho. I play a pretty low-cost tanky/ support Cho with like Golem, Tabi, Aegis, Locket, Wits and wards. Doesn't really affect ganking power, and makes him a terror in midgame fights.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 09 2013 05:17 GMT
#2007
Blade of the Ruined King straight up replaced Wits End from what I can tell. I've bought it once in S3 and that was just so I could go quad null-mantle on Irelia v 2-0 Rumble.
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
April 09 2013 05:19 GMT
#2008
On April 09 2013 14:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
There's a couple guys I like it on, like jungle Cho. I play a pretty low-cost tanky/ support Cho with like Golem, Mercs, Aegis, Locket, Wits and wards.


Golem AND Mercs?

I always wanted to try Lizard Elder on jungle Cho (spikes proc the burn afaik) but it's been nerfed so many times now.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
April 09 2013 05:20 GMT
#2009
On April 09 2013 14:03 Shikyo wrote:
Hm so why does no one ever build Wit's End on anyone? I've heard that it's gotten terribly nerfed and so on but looking at its stats and considering the increase in prices of both MR and aspd(especially aspd), Wit's End has actually become relatively better than it used to be, especially after the MR buff. So what's the deal? Are the newer items just better? Or maybe because everyone goes mass HP the passive isn't that good ...



Plz don't report for actually talking about LoL.

When I want AS and an on-hit effect, I think botrk; when I want MR, I think of hexdrinker or some pure defensive item like spirit visage. I barely even remember wit's end still exists...
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:26:40
April 09 2013 05:20 GMT
#2010
On April 09 2013 14:19 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
There's a couple guys I like it on, like jungle Cho. I play a pretty low-cost tanky/ support Cho with like Golem, Mercs, Aegis, Locket, Wits and wards.


Golem AND Mercs?

I always wanted to try Lizard Elder on jungle Cho (spikes proc the burn afaik) but it's been nerfed so many times now.


woods, brain fart. meant tabi probably, haha. fixed it anyways. (edit: wow, i said woods, i'm tired)

i finish it off with a sv usually, though sometimes randuins and chug blue pots. i just realized this build (now) has triple kindlegems, im such a baller.

they do proc it, but all it does is make chogath a true damage monster (which really isnt as good as it sounds). i think adding wits or something adds more damage, the burn is actually fairly poor. i think wits is better b/c it gives a little tankiness, adds as much damage to his basic attacks and the increased speed/ap actually make his vorpals do more than they would with lizard burn.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 09 2013 05:32 GMT
#2011
I build it on jungle Vi whenever I'm not against double AP (I'll generally either rush it if fed, or go for aegis first in that case), and rather late (if I get fed enough I'll buy an early recurve bow, otherwise I'll sit on the phage/stinger/tabi core with a NMM if I need MR, complete a belt item (randuin's or mallet), and then finish the Wit's if I need more defense).
A lot of games are decided before I actually build it, thus. On Jax I prefer SV because it gives CDR (reducing E's cd is so important to duelling carries lategame), and I haven't played Irelia in awhile.
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Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
April 09 2013 06:51 GMT
#2012
Like the spirit of the ancient golem change. I always built locket after spirit stone, may look into golem spirit now that it builds out of a kindlegem. This also gives you more options for tier 2 boots since you don't necessarily need tenacity on the boots anymore.
With the giants belt the build path was so bad. I used to finish Locket, Aegis, Merc threads and sometimes bulwark even before finishing the spirit of the ancient golem ( on tanky/utility junglers like nasus )
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:19:10
April 09 2013 07:16 GMT
#2013
Apparently Ravenous Hydra's active procs BotRK passive effect and Black Cleaver in the AoE.. <_< So using the active also would apply 2 stacks of BC to everyone hit.

It's just something I've read and it tbh makes no sense, must test.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 09 2013 07:31 GMT
#2014
"@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"

For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.

Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:33:41
April 09 2013 07:33 GMT
#2015
On April 09 2013 16:16 Shikyo wrote:
Apparently Ravenous Hydra's active procs BotRK passive effect and Black Cleaver in the AoE.. <_< So using the active also would apply 2 stacks of BC to everyone hit.

It's just something I've read and it tbh makes no sense, must test.

Not like that would be even feasible in the game; there's no way you can get away as a melee champ and afford 3 pure damage item.

With exception of assassins.
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:35:10
April 09 2013 07:33 GMT
#2016
On April 09 2013 14:03 Shikyo wrote:
Hm so why does no one ever build Wit's End on anyone? I've heard that it's gotten terribly nerfed and so on but looking at its stats and considering the increase in prices of both MR and aspd(especially aspd), Wit's End has actually become relatively better than it used to be, especially after the MR buff. So what's the deal? Are the newer items just better? Or maybe because everyone goes mass HP the passive isn't that good ...



Plz don't report for actually talking about LoL.


Well BOTRK stole its niche and is a better item efficiencywise and slotwise, plus it has a way better build path. Wits is actually really good though still just for its massive power spike at 2200 gold as opposed to 3200 for BOTRK, if you can just buy it decently fast its really freaking good, 350 gold for 42 magic damage is a fantastic deal, and stacked you get it more than free, its just a ton of damage.

I still definitely buy it if I'm facing a decent amount of magic damage and am planning on going more tanky (IE not going to invest 3200 in pure offensive stats) and can get it fast. Really good item just got overshadowed by BOTRK and its sexy buildup with cutlass.

mostly though people dont think about any of that, they just saw it got nerfed and never build it ever again because they are dumb.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 09 2013 07:37 GMT
#2017
On April 09 2013 16:31 JonGalt wrote:
"@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"

For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.

Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?


madlife 72% LOL

also, looks like our fellow gtrs still went with deezer for his team
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 09 2013 07:45 GMT
#2018
That KR lineup is stupid beastly.
liftlift > tsm
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:46:59
April 09 2013 07:46 GMT
#2019
On April 09 2013 16:37 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 16:31 JonGalt wrote:
"@sedicius: Current KR Allstar #1 votes: Top Maknoon 32.6%, Mid Ambition 37.5%, Bot Pray 33.9%, Support Madlife 76.4% (lmao), Jungle Insec 53.9%"

For those interested. I don't know too much about the scenes other than NA and EU but that looks like a pretty beast KR Allstar team.

Also, without watching vods or streams, how can I get more informed on the KR/SEA/TW/CN scenes?


madlife 72% LOL

also, looks like our fellow gtrs still went with deezer for his team

Yea and he is now begging the community for 1300 dollar. I really think it's a scumbag move for an organisation to not cover the bills for players.


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1byxsm/help_velocity_esports_get_a_full_roster_for_the/

The link for the crying of a manager.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 09 2013 07:50 GMT
#2020
Velocity using Deezer? Now I know who to root against.
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